Offseason Changes and/or concerns about tonight’s game.
 

I think tonight showed just how oblivious we have all been (rose colored glasses perhaps?) on how bad our offense has been all season, i.e. gifted wins like the dumb ass raiders losing the game without stoping the clock, missed 25 yd field goals… our record did not reflect the truth of this team, we SHOULD have lost to some pretty bad teams….

From here, where do we go?? I think the Oline is clearly an issue, not having rice tonight is also being blatantly exposed as a weakness at WR. Every play “everyone’s covered” along with the Oline just shitting the bed… so, what do we do?

We need a LT and there really isn’t any great option in FA or the draft.

<<<< Never had the rose colored glasses. I've been pretty MIA the last 2 weeks because talking shit is pointless when you are a fan of a team who has lucked into 8 wins this season.

I have no idea, but hopefully Veach and company figure it out.

I'm at peace with this loss.

might have to pony up some draft picks and skyy moore because you can't go into next season without left tackle fixed

Mahomes got hit a lot this year

need an OL overhaul, RB overhaul, and a new TE1

We need a go-to guy to throw to

Mahomes needs to be more consistent. Hopefully this loss gives him a new focus

guess I’ll say it..qb is becoming a concern

expect Kelce wont come back after this

Oh STFU

Kelce is so slow… RBs looked ok until tonight, but I’m a firm believer in how your Oline is the bread and butter of your RB’s statistics, minus outliers like the ravens, or CMC…

For example, when they took Barkley out 2 weeks ago, their back up came in and ripped off a 70 yard run or something stupid because of the holes available but he still got chased down… Barkley scores that granted, but the point still stands.

I guess you were part of a watch party that didn’t allow you to hear the commentators say repeatedly “everyone’s covered”

You being alive is a concern for me

The only reason this game got away comes back to Patrick mentally being uncomfortable.

We can be mad about that all we want, but that’s where it is. So if you gotta make huge offensive line changes to fix it, so ****ing be it.

We let Orlando Brown go and let Donovan Smith go even though they won Super Bowls with them. I guess they thought they could get away with just putting anyone in there and it wouldn't matter. I don't know.

He’s not wrong. Pat’s looked off the whole
Season.

Throwing picks including a pick 6 in the superbowl is a concern.

That's been obvious for years. Not sure why it's a shock whenever it pops up.

The very first thing I do is fire Andy Heck, he's the Greg Robinson of 2025 who just somehow keeps a job in spite of being incredibly bad at it. Second thing is make some form of attempt to move up in the draft for a quality starter at LT. Third, I make Taylor a post June 3 cap cut and find that respectable veteran RT looking to get his first ring.

I think it’s because you have games like Buffalo where it’s not there and it seems fine, like they can work past it, at least in these big playoff games.

Still susceptible. Can’t happen.

And I’d let Trey go in favor of fixing LT without blinking. The LT issue specifically ****s him up.

There will be a major Super Bowl loss hangover. They’ve been working towards this for a long time. Getting blown out in non competitive fashion is bound to wear on them.

Second time we o lined ourselves into hell.

LT needs to be figured out. We need to get more dynamic at WR and RB.

Trade Pacheco.

Move on from Juju, Hopkins, and Watson.

Might be time for Kelce to retire

Overreaction planet drives me nuts.

This was a bad loss guys. We saw it from a mile away that we were rolling with house money with this OL.

Fix the OL. Get an absolute wagon of a quick pass option back in rashee rice. Get Mahomes in the lab driven by the anger of this loss. Spend the offseason getting Mahomes right and being unafraid to get aggressive again. God rashee would’ve been huge in this game

Never ever ever forget that we have the best coach and qb on the planet.

So Mahomes gets no blame huh? The greatest qbs find ways to overcome but all Mahomes gets is excuses. Mahomes has not played to the level he set for a few years now and that is not debatable. Getting Mahomes right is a term that’s been going around for a few years now.

Not that this team wasn’t motivated. But I can guarantee you mahomes walks into this offseason with a new focus. And the chiefs will be motivated as hell to surround him with weapons. I love having a great defense, but let’s be real guys… our offense has played too many games like this and we have way too much talent for that to happen.

I hate a loss like this. But the last time we did veach became John wick in the offseason fixing the team

Is Andy willing to do what it takes to make the necessary changes to fix the offense?

That incudes changes to his coaching staff.

The offense has declined significantly during the past two years with Nagy at OC.

Andy Heck is a disaster.

Aren’t you the guy who watches horse porn?

Aww… did I hurt your bitch ass feelings. Aren’t you the guy that watches porn with your sister pegging your Mom?

No

It is debatable because he’s won two super bowls. He is not beyond reproach. But his two super bowls losses have come in games where his OL was ridiculously outmatched. We know Mahomes can and will be fixed and most of the real ones aren’t in a panic.

Oh...
Line
LT to start

Lt has to be top priority. How much do we save if Kelce retires?

I think 13 million

This is a patchwork team that, with a heavy dose of good fortune, put itself in a position to win a historic third Super Bowl in a row. We were fortunate to be along for the ride, but the weaknesses got exposed tonight.

We need to get younger and more dynamic at OL, RB, TE1, and I have no doubt that we will see that happen. We’re due for a down year, and I’m prepared for that next season.

RB, LT, probably a new RG assuming Trey Smith leaves, WR is a significant need with Hollywood/JuJu free agents and Rice likely not available to start the season.

Lots of needs on offense.

Jesus what is this bullshit going after kelce

Make him a part time player. In exchange you get a great teammate and TE2.

Restructure his contract. Let him ride into the sunset the right way.

**** anyone who would want to toss him aside if he wants one last ride

I don’t want to toss him aside. I think there is concern he walks away.

Um..... He has won 3.

I agree. I've never been impressed with Andy's o-lines EVER since he has been here. Mediocre at best offensive lines, you would think with a QB like Mahomes you would always be putting at the very minimum good o-lines in front of Mahomes if not superior but NO. We just duct tape and hope for the best and when you play a superior defensive line you will be exposed every time. Caliendo is a joke. Juwan Taylor is a joke. Wanya and the BYU kid ????? Really? Smith gets lazy as well. Our three Super Bowl wins with Mahomes, was he ever comfortable in the pocket? NOPE. And I assure you ever since Mahomes has been a Chief, he's never felt comfortable in the pocket EVER! Of course he's gonna be the classy guy and never ever point the finger at his o-line which he shouldn't but I assure you behind closed doors.........

This is all on Andy and I know a lot of you think Veach is a GM god BUT Andy approves all things FIRST!

Our 2 Super Bowl loses were direct result of a very poor Oline

Veach better learn

Holywood more like Bollywood. seen nothing from him. My disappointment is in LT with no answers. Philly had 2 weeks to scheme on a suspect left side of the o line . It bit us in the ass in the end.

Yep, he's hinted at retirement for two years now. He's a first ballot hof'er, and has his life after football all lined up. I think there's a 75% chance he walks.

It would be great to see Patrick play with a legit Running back. When tonight happens they can hand it off.

We were really going to have to commit to it to have success and we were clearly never doing that.

Now, it would likely have prevented 21 pts and been a much better strategy...

The Oline has talent, just seems like they underperform consistently...I'd look to replace Heck for starters.

That is entirely different from people accusing him or being fat and wanting him to retire.

If we swap T's with the Eagles the score is flipped. Thuney playing LT got us there. It wasn't enough.

If he retires on his own terms so be it. We will adapt. The idea that this is something we should want as if he’s weighing us down is something entirely different. A) don’t disrespect the king. B) there is a world where he can be hella valuable without us relying on him to be the bellcow much longer

We might lose Andy in a year or two Kelce who knows

They tried to patch the the team up with old vetrans, it might be min before we get back still a hela run after the last 50 years.

I don't understand how teams are able to build dominant lines while drafting fairly high. Yes, the Eagles had a somewhat down year last year however the year before, they were the runner up. Somehow, they were able to rebuild both lines, acquire Barkley and pay everyone.

Someone please explain it to me because this isn't supposed to be possible. The Chiefs have invested a tone of money in free agency and it seems like a poor choice. I like Chris Hones however he's an aging player that is costing a lot of money. Unfortunately, I see the Chiefs having a lot of cap issues moving forward.

Draft well. That's it.

We've done it. So has Philly.

The other side of that coin is...he won back to back Super Bowls with Juju, Skyy Moore, Kadarius Toney, and far less than ideal tackles. He did have Rashee Rice last year as a rookie. Aside from that, it's basically been Mahomes and Kelce dragging this offense to Lombardis.

This team had the least explosive RB plays in the entire league. Only 17 explosive plays of 10+ yards.

It makes the QB and OL’s job significantly harder when the team is completely one dimensional bc the defense doesn’t fear our running game.

A dynamic stud RB would 100% help everybody

Yeah OLine coach has to go for sure after this one, worst performance ever by an OLine in the Superbowl?

As a defense if you know they're gonna throw and you know they don't have time for anything downfield (and they know they don't have time for anything downfield), you've gotta be licking your chops. It's just too easy at that point and you have a game that looks like this one.

Patrick needs to learn a touch pass. He did a.close one one to worthy on the td. But.the ints.were just lined passes. Appears they just cut routes.

Also. Oline coach definitely needs.to go.

Dline needs to adjust training. No stunts. Just run into the lineman.

Nagy needs.to go..no adjustments until it's too late.

Eagles really haven't done anything wild. Their LT is a 7th round pick. LG and C are 2nd rounders. Becton at RG was a 1st rounder for the Jets but Philly signed him for less than $3 million this year. Lane Johnson at RT was drafted by Chip Kelly so that tells you how long they've had him.

Yeah, no….

Devontae smith was drafted by the eagles and got a 75/3 year extension in 2024.

AJ brown their #1 they traded for from the titans.

They paid to get Barkley in a year when everyone thought/said rbs mean shit.

Jalen signed a 250 million dollar extension in 2023 through 2028.



Their defense raped us. With a 10 foot pole. Your explanation on paying players doesn’t mean shit.

Yes and he gets credit for that. So why does the blame always go elsewhere? Mahomes has given us years we never thought possible but he’s had a few iffy years now.

We need to completely revamp the offense. Not necessarily the players but the system. We just look like we have no plan wayyy too ****ing often.

Gosh, I hope not. He wasn't nearly as effective as in years past. I don't blame him because he's taken physical beatings out on the field for years. It's time for him to retire. And if he doesn't retire he is not doing the Chiefs any favors.

“The Chiefs offense is no longer the big play/explosive offense it was earlier in Mahomes’ career” narrative needs to be vanquished.

Mahomes is 29 years old… why shouldn’t the offense be as explosive as it was earlier in his career?

That needs to be the central focus for fixing the offense this offseason.

Coaching, offensive line, more explosive RB’s… whatever it takes.

The problem with the oline was mostly just not having an LT. Trying to patch it hurt the run game and made the offense one dimensional exacerbated by getting down multiple scores early because of the weakness from gambling on fixing the LT. This game is different if Thuneys in the position he's a Hall of Famer at

It’s like people missed the Bills loss when it was clear as day that Kareem, Kelce, Hopkins and Juju got zero explosion and our LT got his ass kicked.

I could not disagree more. He is plenty effective. We cannot expect him to be a primary piece who carries the team on his back. As a complementary piece he is still very good.

Get some goddamn blocking so we don’t have to keep chipping. Get rice back. Get a running game going again. There are plenty of ways for kelce to be a big factor

Interesting, the Chiefs has spent a lot of money on their OL and it looked bad at every position tonight. Yet the Eagles are able to build a dominant OL that gave Hurts time. So, it's scouting and coaching?

So frustrating to watch a team rush 4 and get instant pressure. I was expecting the Chiefs to chip with a TE to slow the rush however it never happened.

Never even tried to run when it was clear the OL was struggling in pass blocking.

The Chiefs really over-achieved this year, as difficult as it will be to watch, I believe they really need a couple of down years to get some better picks and get the underachieving players off the roster.

{shrug}

Burn the tapes.

I really don't even know what to take from this game. We'd have lost to Buffalo by 17 with that effort.

One team came ready to play and the other didn't. There's nothing that those 4 quarters can teach us that we didn't already know from the 19 games that preceded it.

The Chiefs didn't come ready at all.

I mean even presuming for the sake of argument that the O-line was the major problem, it didn't look like THAT against Houston.

They simply came out with their hair on fire. They put effort and out-executed us from start to finish.

Play a D- game and you'll lose to a good team playing its A game. I really don't know that there's anything else to take from that performance.

It happens sometimes I guess. You'd just prefer it not happen when the entire world is watching.

Only player that might be back from that group is Kelce. We have good skill players if we can upgrade at RB. Just need to upgrade the line and we need to overhaul the scheme and how we run the offense.

We can't have another year of squeaking by teams and people lying to themselves that the offense is dogging it on purpose.

He gets part of the blame. He played poorly there's no question. If we're handing out blame here though we should hand it out to the coaches and the o-line. Both did a poor job tonight and it made Patrick's job nearly impossible.

Our offense hasn’t looked good all season, and if I’m being honest because of the lack of critical thinking here, I’ve resorted to not posting about it. We’ve won the last 2 years, secured #1 bye… if I say something negative I’m just some negative bitch.

If you are the GM, fixing the OL is something that you can try and do.

I don't know what you do to fix the QB? [Send him off to a dark cave with mind altering drugs?]. Outside of things like fixing the OL and trying to keep enough talent around him on offense.

Anyway to rescind Creed Humphreys contract and use it on an LT

Worthy was open all night. At least 3-4 time more open than the one they connected on. Rice has already proved he can give you 100 yards a game.

Bring back Brown on a one year deal. draft a WR with one of your 2nd round picks.

We dont need to pay $30 million to a "go to guy". We need a LT so he can throw to ones we already have.

Blind side is critical. They lost Mitch Schwartz (First Team All-Pro at Right Tackle) and still scored 38 points on a very good Buffalo team. When Eric Fisher went down at the Left Tackle spot at the very end of the Buffalo game, the offense was completely screwed for the Super Bowl against Tampa.

This year they had 4 different guys playing Left Tackle. They've had 5 different guys at Left Tackle the last 2 years. And 6 different guys at Left Tackle the last 3 seasons. It's pretty amazing so much instability at Left Tackle has led to 2 championships and 3 conference titles in recent years. Overachieved in this situation. Every other contending team each year has a really good Left Tackle situation.

The worst thing about the LT situation this year is that it killed your Left Guard situation too, by moving Thuney to LT and replacing him with a backup in the LG spot. So now the entire blind side was vulnerable as hell. Somehow they made it through 2 Playoff wins like that, lol

Who the hell knows what they do. OL is probably priority one but with our money situation probably a 2 year issue.

Everything starts at LOS. We h a vr seen that many times over on both sides. Get better fatties.

97 regular season catches, no idea how you can say 'he isnt doing us any favours' because I don't know of any player who is going to replace that kind of production that we can sign.

He caught 97 balls in the regular season.


in a year in which we played four left tackles, lost our first and second WR's and were working a rookie in.

He still caught 97 balls.

If Kelce wants to retire, I don't blame him.

But to pretend that he is somehow an ineffective TE, even at this age, is ****ing nonsense.

We have one, he got hurt