Originally Posted by fadeaway (Post 17967722)

Are we really that ****ed cap space wise?

I know there’s the current crop of talent and there will always be more, but every year the media make out it’s a new guys turn to take down Mahomes and guess what, they don’t.

Mahomes has lost two super bowls that have arguably been out of his hands. The Bucs game he had a make a wish OL, last sunday he had his team give up around him (excluding Worthy) and quite frankly the worst game plan you will ever see from a coaching team in a superbowl.

Originally Posted by fadeaway (Post 17967722)

Are we really that ****ed cap space wise?

I know there’s the current crop of talent and there will always be more, but every year the media make out it’s a new guys turn to take down Mahomes and guess what, they don’t.

Mahomes has lost two super bowls that have arguably been out of his hands. The Bucs game he had a make a wish OL, last sunday he had his team give up around him (excluding Worthy) and quite frankly the worst game plan you will ever see from a coaching team in a superbowl.

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 17967752)

Will be interesting to see if Kelce retires and how the team reacts in 2025.

I think KC has a 5-6 year window to advance to 2 more SBs and win one or both.

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17967755)

Why just a 5-6 year window?

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17967766)

This shit is so ****ing dumb. We lost the ****ing Super Bowl and now it's time for everyone to act like this team is some joke or something. If we won, then no one would have this conversation. Nothing changed.

Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 17967658)

Think about it, with the Chiefs having to retool our roster with the salary cap, how many times will we get back to the SB? How many times can we win?

I saw a segment on First Things First that has me thinking the same way here. We have been on a historical run, AFCW Champs,AFC Championship Games, plus the SB's.

Pat is 30, look at the rest of the AFC QB's he has to battle to get back to the SB. In the AFC alone, how SB's will be won by Allen,Jackson,Burrow,Herbert,Nix,Stroud, etc., not to mention a newer flux of QB talent just to the AFC, then add in the NFC teams you can meet in the SB.

So realistically, what can we expect in the next 10 years that we may have Pat for? I don't see Andy coaching 10 years or more!

Be realistic about this, we have had a GREAT RUN, but how much longer can we expect this.

This last SB was about the law of averages catching up to us. There was just so many things lining up that says, Here, this is the time you will lose and it happened to a quality opponent.

So what do you see in the next 10 years?

Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 17967658)

Think about it, with the Chiefs having to retool our roster with the salary cap, how many times will we get back to the SB? How many times can we win?

I saw a segment on First Things First that has me thinking the same way here. We have been on a historical run, AFCW Champs,AFC Championship Games, plus the SB's.

Pat is 30, look at the rest of the AFC QB's he has to battle to get back to the SB. In the AFC alone, how SB's will be won by Allen,Jackson,Burrow,Herbert,Nix,Stroud, etc., not to mention a newer flux of QB talent just to the AFC, then add in the NFC teams you can meet in the SB.

So realistically, what can we expect in the next 10 years that we may have Pat for? I don't see Andy coaching 10 years or more!

Be realistic about this, we have had a GREAT RUN, but how much longer can we expect this.

This last SB was about the law of averages catching up to us. There was just so many things lining up that says, Here, this is the time you will lose and it happened to a quality opponent.

So what do you see in the next 10 years?

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17967729)

No, this is prisoner of the moment stuff. It's not like this team was built all-in in any sort of way, it just feels like it because of what they were trying to achieve.

Let the offseason play out and by next August we will once again be feeling like another final four appearance is on deck.

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17967834)

There is literally no one else in the AFC right now but KC. Buffalo has a lot of cap issues, and the Chiefs own the Lamar and the Ravens. Rosters will change of course after FA and the draft.

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 17967771)

Exactly right. Why is this different than the Bucs punking us in the Super Bowl in 2021? After that, we lost both our tackles. The following year, we traded one of the best wide receivers to ever play the game. The train kept rolling.

At this point, Mahomes is in his prime, we have two young stud receivers on rookie contracts and a young top 5 caliber defense.

People are overreacring. Never as bad or as good as it seems.

Originally Posted by wannaGOback (Post 17967836)

I think Buffalo has a lot of cap space next year.

Originally Posted by wannaGOback (Post 17967836)

I think Buffalo has a lot of cap space next year.

Originally Posted by wannaGOback (Post 17967836)

I think Buffalo has a lot of cap space next year.

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17967754)

Build around Mahomes. Protection is paramount. Weapons are on deck with Worthy and Rice.

Sacrifice a little defensively if needed, but you cant keep going to Superbowls and losing because your offense is getting absolutely ****ing destroyed.

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 17967929)

I'm more than willing to let the defense slide back to middle of the pack, if it means getting back to an offense that can basically score at will

When you can do THAT you don't need a top defense, and KC has the receipts to prove it

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17967932)

Yup. Score at will and ask Spags to get a few stops a game.


A great offense also helps the defense as it puts all the pressure on the teams trying to keep pace.

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17967757)

One of the biggest variables likely within the next five years is Andy’s retirement.

Who replaces him, how that changes the coaching staff, etc. will be a critical juncture for the Chiefs’ continued Super Bowl window with Mahomes.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17967935)

The Chiefs will be in the AFCCG for the 8th straight year.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17967847)

You'd be wrong.

They're $12 million over at present. Now they'll have some cuts and restructures that will help them find some room, but they aren't going to even be mid-pack when it comes to cap space.

Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 17967974)

I can see this too. But to the point I was wanting to make, we've had it easy, but the AFCW is going to get harder with the HC's in it. Getting HF is going to be tougher challenge.


So how many return trips to the SB and how many wins.

Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 17967965)

This is my biggest concern! That and Veach hitting our draft pics!

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 17967752)

Will be interesting to see if Kelce retires and how the team reacts in 2025.

I think KC has a 5-6 year window to advance to 2 more SBs and win one or both.

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17967991)

If not for a batted ball and Dee Ford’s foot, Mahomes would have likely been in the SB every year of his career. There’s no reason to expect them to slow down much, especially when they did it in “rebuild” years.

And I don’t think the window’s going to slam shut when Reid retires, unless they totally botch the hire.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17968258)

The Eagles went over the top because of their draft classes, not money spent.

Bryce Huff was a $17M AAV signing last spring who was a healthy scratch Sunday because Nolan Smith was that much better.

Originally Posted by wannaGOback (Post 17967836)

I think Buffalo has a lot of cap space next year.

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17967789)

If we can just get the offensive line straightened out we could be back next year.

WBF

Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 17969323)

Wood-Burning Fireplace?

Originally Posted by wannaGOback (Post 17967768)

The Chiefs will not be playing in the Super Bowl next year.

They will make the Super Bowl the year after that.

Hard to have any lookout more than 3 years.

Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 17967747)

There will be a 10-20 million cap jump. Problem is every team gets it and will pay more

Originally Posted by 63PatsFan (Post 17969680)

There'll also be a string of bad luck that's due, whether it be injury

Originally Posted by 63PatsFan (Post 17969680)

What's likely to happen is you're right they won't make it next year due to fatigue and needing to re-load.

And due to a tougher division, they won't be the #1 seed each year either. Denver and LA, with those coaches and QB's, are coming and you can start to count on at least 2 division losses per year.

There'll also be a string of bad luck that's due, whether it be injury or bad calls costing them a playoff game, some team comes out of nowhere in the playoffs, etc. The Chiefs have traveled a path of very good luck the past 5 years and there is a law of averages in the NFL.

The team will continue to win 11+ games each year for years, but staying at the very top is virtually impossible. If you look at NE from 2007 thru 2014, after winning 3 rings in 4 years, they were the best team in the league most of those 8 years, had the best QB-HC-offense, made it to the dance twice, made it to 4 other AFCC games, but went 0 for 8.