Chiefs sign DE Jerry Tillery
 

Per Ian

“Former #Vikings DE Jerry Tillery is signing with the #Chiefs on a 1-year deal, source said. Former first-rounder.”

Sneaky good pickup. At least we have a vet next to Jones at this point. I was getting worried. This flurry of transactions makes me think they either got Smith done or they rolled some cash from Kelce to a void year or something similar.

Started 11 games for the Vikings last year. Damn, didn’t realize that.

I like it. Need bodies and he’s a fresh piece.

Nice signing, he should fit well next to Jones. These guys are filling weak positions left and right, giving them maximum flexibility for the draft. Almost feels to me like a trade up isn't out of the question now with how active they've been in free agency. It'll be so nice not to have to force anything one way or another.

Right now, I think you can reasonably say we have 22 pretty well set starters and if we had to go into the season, we'd be atop the AFC already. That's incredible for a team coming of a 15-2 season and Super Bowl appearance. We are in terrific shape.

I'm kinda meh on this, dudes career sack numbers are... lets just say he's no sackmeister

I could be wrong but I feel like right now he’s replacing Wharton as more of a 3T to complement Jones when he subs or moves out wide.

Doesn’t preclude us from upgrading in the draft, but helps ease the burden of need.

Wanted us to draft this guy so bad. Loved the size and traits. Not a great player but is a nice cheap rotational DT.

Good value IMO

Any WRs worth taking at 31?

I smell a trade back now.

Any WRs worth taking at 31?

I smell a trade back now.

Understandable, and PFF grades him out as a very average DL.

But, the draft is our chance to really bolster that group this year. Nice to have a snaps eater in the fold beforehand, hopefully this is spelling the end of Nnadi here as we go.

Cheap vet replacement for Wharton. They'll draft a guy too.

Cheap veteran depth is never a bad thing, for sure

And if he spells the end of Nnadi, its a win

Well he certainly has the Spags body.

Can’t believe this signing took the server down.

Can this piece of shit play football? IMO he is probably the biggest steal of free agency because Verch.

This. Decent pick-up to plug a hole until our DT we pick up in the draft is ready!

He always played well against us...maybe a SB will motivate him? One year deal, why not?

I'm feeling a "TO THE SHIP!" on this one.

That's gold Jerry!

:clap:

Ovaltine. Why do they call it Ovaltine? They should call it Roundtine.

Sort of a strange pickup.

Best way to get buried on this roster is to be an indifferent run defender.

That may be a generous review of Tillery's run defense.

I've wanted us to pursue him a couple times even back to the draft, but this feels like another guy we grabbed that spags wont use.

Unless they plan to use him as a DE some… perhaps in certain base under fronts..

He's certainly built like a Spags DL at 6'6 295, and considering his paltry career sack numbers... wouldn't run defense have to be his only real calling card?

No, that was me sneezing in Florida.

Bodies, DT is very bare.

If he can’t stop the run and can’t sack the qb what does this big tub of fatty do then?!!!

He's 6'6 295 so I'm sure they like his length and versatility he's a typical Spags type.

Tillery is a talented guy, and an absolute knuckle head. He'll make a fantastic play, and then give it all away with an idiotic personal foul.

Yep, Nnadi upgrade. An extremely low bar but it'll do!

It's not.

He's been seen as more of a rush player; an under-tackle sort when he was getting some positive press. A lazy, indifferent tweener who didn't have the speed for edge or bulk for DT when is getting LESS positive press.

The Vikings actually had two really good run defending DTs last season with Bullard and Phillips. Tillery was brought in as a rotational pass rusher from the interior. And ended up losing snaps as the season progressed to Jalen Redmond who was a pretty jaggy UDFA.

Ultimately he's just something of a tease and has been most of his career. He's pretty much survived this long on draft status and the occasional flashes of good play. He looked like a pretty credible 'third year breakout' sort of player back with the Chargers (when most of us became familiar with him and he built his reputation). But he regressed the following season, got dumped, hasn't really rebounded from that level since.

I wouldn't expect much from him. Maybe he puts it together after 6-7 years in the league in his late 20s...but he'd be a pretty rare occurrence in that regard.

What a strange saga for that guy

He was a rising star, then somehow instantly plateaued and fell off his own cliff

Not much, honestly.

Waste talent? He's done that really well for the majority of his career.

He's a guy that should be good. He's always had the tools going back to ND. He just rarely actually is.

He's the sort of player you just really get bummed out by because there's Pro Bowl talent there but he's sort of a stupid dickhead that can't get out of his own way and doesn't seem to want to put in the work to make himself as good as he should be.

Meanwhile someone like Wharton just worked his way into a $54 million deal.

And still Tillery won't figure it out.

DL market is very thin unless they're praying Omenihu comes back.

I mean...maybe don't throw $6 million worth of contract tenders at Nazeeh Johnson and Jack Cochrane?

Could've helped you in that 2nd wave of FA...

You can thank Dave Toub for those stupid ass contracts.

Teir Tart signed for $5.5 million.

Would you rather have Cochran, Johnson and Tillery or Tart?

I know I'd rather have the latter. Lopez, Onwuzurike, Seb Joseph, Rankins -- all guys that would've fit in that same salary slot.

This team just doesn't seem to give a shit about DT2.

And every season their 4-man rush seems to kinda suck.

Weird.

Accidental down vote

DJ is right. He's a career underperformer. We can only hope that playing with Spags and Jones make it "click" for him.

Hope I'm wrong, but its kinda seeming like he's a gonna be a jackoff about his jack

Spags wants a chance to coach up an underperforming prototype

Let me see what I can do with him, Brett

Mendy's has the best pea soup!

No soup for you!

lol.

lmao, even.

Does he punch testicles like Shaun Smith used to?

I would have loved Dante Fowler Jr for only $8 million for a year.

Don’t like the Cochrane/Nazeeh tenders which almost cover the cost for Fowler alone. Get those guys for cheaper man

I was gonna say the same thing. Seems like got injured at one point and when he returned he wasn't quite the same. I feel like that happened to CEH as well. That injury where he kinda did the splits and then got jacked up. He never ran the same after that. And he wasn't a burner to begin with, but he was quick as shit.

Draft is packed though.

Trenches baby, trenches this year...

Only difference is Nnadi never suffered a catastrophic injury that I can recall... dude just fell straight off the earth two seasons ago, for reasons we'll probably never know

Well, bye

Sounds like a decent pick up as rotational IDL guy, the league knows his floor, maybe Spags and Jones can get more out of him.

PFF compared him to Jones in his draft profile, dudes an athlete, has a sick vertical for his size at least lol

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2019-...ery-notre-dame

Good stuff, we needed a DT bad.

According to PFF his only good season was two years ago and the rest were bad. Kinda strange, drafted 28th overall by the Chargers in 2019.

It's all going to click for Jerry "Killary" Tillery in year ...*checks notes*... 7 and he will start to dominate in such a tremendously historical manner that when he retires at age 39 the NFL will waive the 5 year waiting period to make him a unanimous first ballot HOFer IMHO.

I like him!!

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Wanted us to draft him. He's been a solid rotational piece in the league. Great pick up.

Dude! Buck just posted!

I mean, you're absolutely right. I desperately wanted Tart or Onwuzurike, have no interest in returning guys like Cochrane and Johnson, and think Tillery is a POS player...on the other hand, any move that pushes Nnadi off the roster kinda has me unreasonably excited.

But yeah, the total lack of interest in building a reasonable DT room alongside Jones, or utilising speed at DE, is baffling and frustrating.

If Tillery is here to take Nnadi's snaps, and those previously given to guys like Dickerson, then I think it's a solid move. He offers more, even as a run-stuffer, than Nnadi.

If, alongside Tillery, they draft a DT and DE within the first 3 picks. Great, solid rebuild. Even better if Omenihu stops being delusional and comes back at a reasonable cost (which, I suspect, he won't).

The concern is if they do none of the above and think Tillery can take snaps from Omenihu and/or Wharton - he can't, he's proven he's not a reliable pass-rusher.

This will only happen imo if the relentless focus on DL "versatility" continues. That's how you get guys like Tillery and Omenihu. Players that aren't really strong enough to work as DTs, or quick and flexible enough to threaten as DEs.

I love Spags, but if there's one aspect of his preferences I find baffling, it's this. No idea why it's verboten to just grab a load of guys who do 1 thing really well. Get a proper NT who can't rush, get an undersized DT who can rush but not stop the run that well, get a DE that can set the edge, and another that can't but threatens with speed. Flexibility is wildly overrated when it becomes a room of tweeners.

My bet and hope is it's resolved this draft and the DL really is properly restocked. Would be amazed if it's not.

I did too. It's probably a good thing I'm not an NFL GM. As you said. Not a great player.

He likes it because he can do different things without tipping his hand. Granted, when looked at individually, those things aren't as "good" as they could be because of tweener skill sets, but there is a perceived net gain in being multiple.

I don't agree, necessarily, with it either. I'd much rather see a couple of guys that are good 3Ts, a couple that are good NTs, a couple of SDEs, and a couple of WDEs, and 1 or 2 flex guys. But that's not what we get. We get a bunch of WTF, Chris, and George.

I can't complain too damned much given that what Spags does works. It just seems he makes it unnecessarily difficult on himself to have his D generate consistent pressure.

I'm not a fan at all of the style or individual players. Always seems like we give up more yards and points than we should considering the circumstances.

That said, in the moments we have to have a stop, we get it. His strategy is sound. It works. He wins. Spags ****s with QB's and OC's and wins.

Do yer' thing Spags.

He's still in the league? Seems like he was drafted a decade ago

We can name him grandpa Tillery or just gramps for short.

Have we seen a dollar amount on this yet? Assuming he's cheap, I am fine with this. Average ish player to eat up some snaps for cheap is fine by me.

I still hope the long term answers on the Dline come in the draft.

He's only 28...I must be thinking of someone else that played for the Chargers.

Honestly this may be a sign Omenihu isn’t coming back. And based upon his tweets he thinks he deserves big money.

Huh? The deepest DT/DE draft in forever and you want to trade back to take a WR? :doh!:

Our only hope of resigning him was the market telling him you are not worth that number.

He’s delusional. Put a full season together first dude.

That said I would love to have his motivated ass on this roster and I suspect he will come crawling back soon. If we don’t bring him back, hopefully that’s a sign they think FAU is ready for a big role. Otherwise, we need him or an early draft pick.

Absolutely this, and also wildly overrated. I'd have him back fairly cheap because we badly need the DL reinforced. But if he wants a lot, sorry, you've not earned it. With or without him, we need an early DE draft pick.

Yeah, I get the reasoning, I just don't think it actually does allow Spags to be as crafty as he thinks. Fine, switch the DE and DT etc, but really all the opposition has to do is ask themselves "where is Jones?" and they're good.

But yeah, can't complain given how it all ends up.

Deep means you don't need to take one at 31

Well, the dl likes to bat down passes.

That tall f in the middle should help.

Raiders picked him up off waivers and then released him a year or two later.

Yep. Plus them long arms to swat them down. All about attitude and effort with the guy. Joe Cullen gets career years out of some of these underachievers. Spags and Joe might get a good year out of him if anyone can but it’s up to him to put it all together.

Bart has had a hard on him for a while now.

Speaking of which I saw a generous article posted about the former elite Chiefs pass rusher Uche to the Eagles. And neglected to mention that he didn’t freaking play a single snap for us.

Spags has a certain type, and just won’t play the player if he doesn’t fit his mold. Maddening at times, but hard to complain much about a top 3 Al time DC.

Yep, hard to argue with but imo it's his worst tendency and it absolutely results in anaemic pass-rushing. Dear God we need speed on that DL.