***Bubic Day: Official 5/3/25 Royals @ Orioles (Sugano) Gameday Thread***
 

SP Kris Bubic

1. Jonathan India
2. Bobby Witt Jr.
3. V. Pasquantino
4. Maikel Garcia
5. Michael Massey
6. Brad Renfroe
7. Failed son of Craig Biggio
8. Ferm-Dog
9. Kyle Isbel

SP Tomoyuki Sugano

1. Cedric Mullins
2. Adley Rutschman
3. G. Henderson
4. R. Mountcastle
5. Ramón Laureano
6. Heston Kjerstad
7. Ramón Urías
8. Jorge Mateo
9. Dylan Carlson

It's interesting that trade rumors suggest the Royals will trade Jac Caglianone and other players for Cedric Mullins. We could be getting a sneak peak at the Royals newest player, which is exciting.

https://baseballiseverything.com/cou...imore-orioles/

Nick Loftin .301, 26 BB, 13 Ks, 7 SB, 0 CS, 1 HR, .914 OPS

Another fun fact about this game, other than the Royals trade target being the lead-off hitter. The #2 hitters for both teams were drafted back-to-back in their draft year. Rutschman was the first overall pick out of Oregon State, kinda similar to how Travis Bazzana out of Oregon State was the first overall pick last year, and how Aiva Arquette out of Oregon State will be the first overall pick this year.

So it's #1 vs. #2, both in the 2 hole. Grudge match.

Free Loftin!

I hope Loftin drives down from Omaha and chokes out Cavan Biggio in his sleep.

Where are you getting that lineup from? Is that just your best guess at the lineup today?

Also, I’m a little disappointed in your trolling effort today. You post on Royals threads enough to know that they are not like Chiefs threads. Meaning, while everyone and their brother will post on a Chiefs thread (hence a much easier place to troll), the only people who post on Royals threads tend to be people who are passionate and knowledgeable about the team. No one here is gonna fall for your BS about the Royals trading our best prospect since BWJ for a mid player like Cedric Mullins. Do better.

https://thetvapp.to/event/kansas-cit...9031d8f7e7bbb/

Game start 18:10

FYI, that’s not the official lineup. It has yet to be released on MLB.com or on the Royals Twitter account. Those fantasy sites (outside of the actual betting ones like FanDuel) are just using historical data to guess.

You don't know about the angry rant I went on when I read that article. It infuriated me.

God forbid an unofficial lineup gets posted to chiefsplanet.com. We could be sued! A material misstatement!

I'd be surprised if Salvadore Perez is in the lineup. When a player like him goes out for soreness, I don't buy it, cause the guy has probably dealt with soreness his whole career. So why does soreness now take him out of the lineup? I'm concerned that it's like "elbow tightness" when a pitcher is screaming in pain.

But I've been told I'm not optimistic enough about these things.

If that lineup ends up being wrong, I'll stop using that site as a reference. But it hasn't been yet.

lol. Well played.

If you’re going to post the GDT, you should at least make sure you have the lineup accurate. That site you have cited today may not have been wrong yet but you have posted at least one wrong starting lineup before which is why I fact checked this one. I didn’t say anything the last time because I figured it was an honest mistake but that’s before I knew you to be a troll (some of the time. Some time you actually post good content and discussion. Sometimes you seem to purposely want to come across as a dumbass/troll. I don’t get it, unless maybe you are a Nickhead mult?).

Sir, I can assure you I am no troll. If those lineups aren't accurate, I do need to know, because I do use them for betting purposes. They are inaccurate on the handedness of players I know that, but if they're wrong other than that, that's information I do appreciate having. I was surprised they had a posted Royals lineup because with MLB, usually you're lucky to have a lineup within 2 hours of gametime.

Bearcat thinks I'm a Carlos mult. Invisibill thinks I'm Ubeja Vontell. Others think I'm a Hammock Parties mult. The truth is, I've been a lurker for some time; I come from 2 plus 2. I was always a Chiefs fan, and there I was at my favorite message board, and some cat named suzzer mentioned chiefsplanet. I hated the site because of the signatures which take up way too much screen space, so I didn't pay much mind to this place. Then after several years I realized if I actually signed up for an account, I could HIDE signatures, and boom, the place became readable and fun! That's my backstory.

But this is not about me. It's about Adley Rutschman vs. Bobby Witt Jr. That's what today is all about. And Bubic. Potential isn't enough. Flashes aren't enough. We need Bubic to be an ace and the time is now. I have faith in him, but not a ton of money anymore.

Okay, fair enough. Don't take my responses as vitrol, I enjoy your stuff well enough. Your not like Dipshit or anyone that would get on the banned list. But I will give you shit when you post ridiculous stuff about Cags getting traded when the article you linked doesn't come close to mentioning that.

All good, you should absolutely call out how ridiculous that premise is. Caglianone is untradeable. He's one of the few guys that even exist that have the capability of hitting a lot of homers at Kaufmann. I told my brother if the Royals even considered trading Caglianone for a 30+ year-old has-been (and even calling Mullins a has-been is generous since he had one good year), I would lose my mind. Like a married man contemplating coming home early to find his wife in bed with the mailman, that's how I would react to that.

**** you forever suzzer

A Mullins deal would make a lot sense for KC if Baltimore does move him.

I can't see them moving a top 100 prospect, let alone a top 25 guy like Caglianone in that deal. It would be a significant departure from recent trade costs and trends.

What would make more sense is probably dealing from some SP depth or their catching depth.

I wouldn't see Mitchell or Jensen as options, at least not straight up. KC would need something back to move either of them.

Lineup here

The guy sucks balls, so it would make sense for the Royals to acquire him. Meanwhile first round pick Nick Loftin just gets his career thrown away like Johnny Giovatella.

Pretty ****ing annoying how this franchise likes to **** around with some prospects, so that some no talent shit head that they gave a spring training roster invitation to can get playing time. Their is no reason why Cavan Biggio should be on the roster and he damn sure shouldn't be DHing. Renfroe needs to kick rocks too.

Let's not forget Tommy Pham and Yuli Gurriel last season.

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I heard the OP offers sexual services to seamen down by the docks.

Womble, get your own house in order before you judge mine.

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I mean, he's been no worse than a league average hitter since he stopped switch-hitting before the 21 season, so "sucks balls" seems like a dead-wrong take, but you do you.

If Johnny Giovatella was any good at baseball, he would have caught on elsewhere. He did not.

AAAA player all the way.

Giovatella was a good player for the Angels for several years after sitting the bench for Chris Getz, who always sucked. You're wrong about him.

Yeah his career amounted to nothing in the scheme of things. That wasnt his fault, it was the Royals fault.

And yes, Mullins sucks balls. You're wrong about that too. He's cooked.

Didn't realize Mr. Bean was doing baseball play by play nowadays. Cool.

AJ Pierzynski cost the Angels the 2014 world series with trash cheating. There's gamesmanship and then there's outright cheating trash. **** him.

10 ****in pitches to get 3 outs....

It’s rare for Bobby to have 2 shit at bats in a row.

If we can't get Ryan O'Hearn out at least serve him up a beanball sandwich.

Renfroe did something good!

Who the hell is running this show? You get the game underway on time, just to delay it an inning later due to rain? ****ing idiots...

Game was jinxed with this game day thread

The most incompetent humans on this planet are sought out and hired to handle weather delays for Royals games.

It's Baltinore for Christ sakes

Expected to resume in a few minutes. So dumb.

Game on.

Having Ohtani on that list is BS. Lorenzen is the active leader in actual pitcher homers.

Atta boy Maikel! Coming through. On the board!

Garcia rules this season so far.

Damn. That crab cake sandwich looks ****ing awesome

I've been there. And it is.

Maybe we should stop doing that stupid shift?

By several years, do you mean he got one season of full time AB for a bad team, posted a sub 700 ops, was never a regular again, and was out of baseball two years later?

Gio just wasn’t quite good enough. The Royals certainly didn’t hold him back. He just didn’t hit enough.

And Mullins is cooked? He’s one of the best hitters in the American League and has been an above-average performer offensively for five straight seasons.

Maybe sit a few plays out and don’t talk for a while. You’re embarrassing yourself.

These FOX announcers sound like they are speaking with a pillow over their mouths.

Yeah... Not to belabor an already obvious point, but there's several things we should stop doing... like having your 5-7 hitters be Massey, Renfroe and Biggio. This madness really needs to end. Renfroe is washed. Massey needs a month in Omaha, and Biggio needs to change his last name so the team will realize that's the only reason he has a job.

And now Cavan makes me look like a jackass. Fine. I'll take it.

Biggiio!!!!!

Nice Biggio! Also Renfroe sucks ass.

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Some of this aged poorly. 😆😆

How can you be a pro athlete and be as slow as Fatfroe is? ****ing Tre Smith would’ve beat that out.

I have witnessed no skills whatsoever. Can't hit, can't run, can't field. What exactly does he do here?

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I mentioned this the other day... But seriously, do athletes just no longer have any shame because their paycheck is so big? Seems like NOBODY retires anymore when they're obviously donezo. They collect that check for as long as the contract allows shamelessly. And sure, I get it, but still, I'd be a little embarrassed and maybe even feel guilty if I couldn't perform to my own expectations.

That’s a low key great play by Garcia.

Totally agree. And yes, I think that is true for a chode like Fatfroe

Give fat kids a potential role model? No clue.

I think Renfroe has just hit the wall physically. He’s a percentage point or two less than what he was, and that’s enough to make him look bad.

Looks like Bubic is likely done based on the scene in the dugout...

But back to Renfroe... I know this isn't the best example at all... but I clearly remember Mike Schmidt tearfully announcing his retirement in early May of 1989 because he felt like he wasn't performing up to his own expectations and was turning into a liability for the team. His numbers weren't good, especially for him, though he was 39 years old. But his numbers upon his retirement ****ing blow Renfroe's away. He had 6 homers, 7 doubles, 28 RBI and an OPS+ OF 91.

Hang em up Hunter, I might actually gain some respect for you.

Damn man. I think Vinnie has to sit for a few games or something. His homer per 8 games or whatever is not worth the almost automatic outs the rest of the time.

Or how about the Royals make the move because it's painfully obvious? If I were a Renfroe I'd probably hang on as long as I could. It's not his job to cut himself.

He should join Massey for a month long trip to Omaha. His approach is just completely ****ed from what he was a couple of years ago.

Just to play “devil’s advocate” (not disagreeing with you because I don’t disagree) but Schmidt was beloved in PA and a shoo in HOFer. Renfroe is a journeyman who will be forgotten almost immediately after he retires. Maybe he can’t yet face that reality.

I think there's a fair chance that happens pretty soon considering Dairon Blanco just began his rehab assignment.

Yeah, I can't disagree, and as I already stated, Schmidt is far from the best example. But how about one a little more recent involving a Royal: Gil Meche. He isn't remembered by many, but I bet a lot of people remember him for his impromptu retirement with a year left of his contract. He realized he likely was never gonna be the same pitcher again, and rather than **** around and find out, he hung em with some dignity.

Good. Give me Dairon Blanco, Dannon yogurt, Darren Daulton, anyone other than Renfroe

Great example. He left a shitload of $ on the bone as well. I’m sure Meche was good with taking his $, traveling the world, raising kids, etc.

Guess Renfroe isn’t comfortable enough with his future yet.


Or some shit. Why else would you continue to be embarrassed daily? Other than lots of $, of course.

Looked like Massey could've made that stop.

"Ummm, Darren Daulton is dead sir."

"Well, cross him off then!"

Oh that strikeout was NASTY! Great job, Lynch.

Massey sucks, the sooner the ROYALS Front office realize this, the better

Eat shit O'Hearn, you mother****ing mother****er no good rotten son of a mother****er.

Our best hope is his bat comes around. I like him as a fielder. If we can fix our outfield and at some point bring up Jac it would be best if Massey could be at least okay.

I don't ever wish injury on a player, but I really hope he suffers a terrible injury. And it is a painful one that ends his career. Not his life, though. That's too far.

And right on cue, Renfroe pops out on the first pitch to the ****ing first baseman. Pitiful.

Yeah, you're probably right...

Nah, **** it, I still want that piece of shit cocksucking mother****ing dirty rotten son of a whore to die in a fire.

Although I stopped short of this, I can respect your reasonable opinion.