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Rain Man 05-17-2025 03:49 PM

The Pro Football Hall of Infamy - Make your nominations
 
In a recent discussion, the esteemed member that we call "Katipan" brought up the concept of a Hall of Infamy for the NFL.

In a quick internet search, it appears that there is no official Hall of Infamy. That gives us a market opportunity to open one up, to be officially housed on this site. You, the members, will be the voters.

Here are the rules and bylaws of the Pro Football Hall of Infamy.

1. We elect exactly six new members each year. (Edit: 12 will be inducted in the inaugural year of the Hall.)

2. Membership criteria will be anyone who brought "shame, dishonor, disgust, or embarrassment" to the sport of professional football".* Each voter may decide what that term means to them.

* - English voters are welcome to substitute 'dishonour' for 'dishonor'.

3. Nominees can include players, coaches, administrators, owners, cheerleaders, fans, superfans, stadium designers, halftime performers, people who drop candy wrappers in stairwells, trainers, those people who run out with water bottles during breaks - anybody who fits Rule 2 above. The only rule is that they must be human, so you cannot nominate a cat that ran onto the field or an underinflated football or anything of that nature.

4. Nominees must not be inactive in professional football for at least five years to be eligible. So tom brady is not yet eligible.

5. Anyone in professional football is eligible, though of course none of us knows anything about the CFL, UFL, USFL, and other non-NFL leagues.

5. Each year, we will build a list of nominees. Nominees from the previous year will automatically be carried forward as long as they meet certain criteria, which will be determined once we see how Year 1 goes.

6. Each Chiefsplanet member will be allowed to nominate up to six people for per year in Year 1, and a smaller number TBD in future years. If more than six are nominated, the first six listed will be the ones chosen. (Edit: in the first year, members can nominate as many people as they deem appropriate.)

7. From the list of nominees, we will conduct a voting tournament to identify the six people who will be inducted each year.

8. (Edit - new rule.) If more than half of the top vote-getters are from one division, the lower vote-getters will not be inducted (in that year) and will be replaced by the highest vote-getters outside the division, in order to meet the induction figures described in Rule #1 and ensure that no more than half are from any one division.

9. (Edit - new rule.). In no year, including the inaugural year, will more than three players from one team be inducted. The assigned team will be the team that the player's infamy is MOST associated with, rather than any/all teams they were associated with.


With that said, nominations for the inaugural 2025 Hall of Infamy are now open. Post your nominees in the thread and I'll organize the voting tournament.

FloridaMan88 05-17-2025 03:52 PM

Lin Elliott, Matt Casshole, Steve Bono, Tyler Palko, Kendrick Lewis, and Orlando Scandrick.

Ocotillo 05-17-2025 04:00 PM

Ed Elway, Mike Shanarat, Shannon Sharpe, Bill Romanowski, Alex Gibbs, Pat Bowlen

chiefzilla1501 05-17-2025 04:01 PM

William bartee, Jonathan Baldwin, sabby piscatelli, Tyler palko, junior siavii, Tyson Jackson

Toney is a arguably a super bowl punt return away from also belonging on the list.

Rain Man 05-17-2025 04:01 PM

I will begin with my list of six nominees, in no particular order.

Bill Romanowski - Dirtiest player on the field in NFL history. Involved in drug stuff off the field. Framed his doctor. His wife is also an amazing jerk.

john elway - Attempted to destroy the integrity of the sport by undermining the annual draft process and forcing his way onto a stronger team. Also an overrated mediocre quarterback.

Rae Carruth - That wasn't a crime of passion. It was cold-blooded murder.

Ray Lewis - Yeah, there's the murder situation. But this person has the biggest ego in the history of the world. Completely non-self-aware and made up lies and excuses when Shields and Richardson dominated him. And he should get nominated for that spastic "dance" thing that he'd do before games if nothing else. Total embarrassment.

Archie Manning - I could put Eli here for avoiding the draft, but Archie is the guy who caused that whole thing. Helicopter parent who wasn't a great player and lives through his sons.

John Madden - Everything about the guy was gross, from his hair to his cigarettes to his sansabelt slacks to his blatant building of a team of extraordinarily dirty players. He was not an annoying old man who rambled endlessly about inane topics during games. He was the leader of a gang of villains and criminals.

Red Dawg 05-17-2025 04:07 PM

Baldwin and Dorsey

Rausch 05-17-2025 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 18066595)
Lin Elliott, Matt Casshole, Steve Bono, Tyler Palko, Kendrick Lewis, and Orlando Scandrick.

Dee Ford.

The original Jokah...

Ocotillo 05-17-2025 04:09 PM

Ben Davidson, Jack Tatum, Neil Smith, Greg Robinson, Barrelman, Josh McDaniels

MarkDavis'Haircut 05-17-2025 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 18066609)
Ben Davidson, Jack Tatum, Neil Smith, Greg Robinson, Barrelman, Josh McDaniels

I was going to nominate Josh McDaniels. :mad:

smithandrew051 05-17-2025 04:16 PM

Jovan Belcher has to be a first ballot guy

Mephistopheles Janx 05-17-2025 04:22 PM

Lawrence Phillips

Ocotillo 05-17-2025 04:23 PM

Rod Smith (wife beater)
Sean Payton (pill head)
Condoleezza Rice (****ed Rick Upchurch and now owns the Donks)
Peyton Manning (gifted a Super Bowl win and cheated with HGH)
Tom Nalen (chop block cheap artist)
Aqib Talib (classless thug from KU)

Deberg_1990 05-17-2025 04:25 PM

Leonard Little
Henry Ruggs
OJ Simpson
Ray Lewis

gblowfish 05-17-2025 04:27 PM

1. OJ Simpson
2. Aaron Hernandez
3. Jovan Belcher
4. Rae Carruth
5. Jack Tatum

FloridaMan88 05-17-2025 04:29 PM

Paul Hackett, Jimmy Raye, Greg Robinson, Bob Sutton, and Dick Curl in the coaches wing.

Bump 05-17-2025 04:33 PM

Michael Vick (dogs)
Pacman Jones (early in his career thug/criminal behavior)
Chad Johnson (the NFL didn't like his celebrations)
Vontaze Burfict (cheap shot headhunter)
Bill Romanowski (roided out cheapshot headhunter)


I tried to pick players that were good

wazu 05-17-2025 04:35 PM

1. O.J. Simpson
2. Rodney Harrison
3. Lyle Alzado
4. Aaron Hernandez
5. Lawrence Phillips
6. Leonard Little

Yo Murphy. 05-17-2025 04:41 PM

1. Elway
2. Pat Bowlen
3. Ray Lewis
4. Bill Romanowski
5. Belichick.
There's so many more scumbags its hard to go wrong. Guess ill stand in the deli counter line holding tom bradys ticket till eligibility.

big nasty kcnut 05-17-2025 05:08 PM

Todd Blackledge
Vinny testevertde
Dee Ford
Al Davis
Troy aikman

Otter 05-17-2025 05:30 PM

Seconded:

Bill Romanowski - Dirtiest player on the field in NFL history. Involved in drug stuff off the field. Framed his doctor. His wife is also an amazing jerk.

rydogg58 05-17-2025 05:31 PM

Romanowski
Elway
Belcher
Shannon Sharpe
Aaron Hernandez
Rae Carruth

Seems like everyone is including that worthless piece of shit Romanowski. He was such a shitbag that it's a guarantee he's a unanimous first ballot Hall of Infamy. **** that asshole.

rfaulk34 05-17-2025 05:48 PM

1. Aaron Hernandez
2. Rae Carruth
3. Jovan Belcher
4. OJ Simpson
5. Eric Naposki
6. Bill Romanowski

threebag 05-17-2025 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 18066595)
Lin Elliott, Matt Casshole, Steve “I Got You, Babe” Bono, Tyler Palko, Kendrick Lewis, and Orlando Scandrick.

One of the greatest touchdown runs in pro football history

jjchieffan 05-17-2025 05:55 PM

Romanowski
Elway
Belcher
Aaron Hernandez
Rae Carruth
Peyton Manning

threebag 05-17-2025 05:57 PM

**** Donk Forever

Bill Blowmenowski was the worst

KCFalcon59 05-17-2025 06:03 PM

Jack Tatum
Ray Rice
Rae Carruth
Conrad Dobler
Vontaze Burfict
Ndamukong Suh
Rodney Harrison

Katipan 05-17-2025 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut (Post 18066651)
Todd Blackledge
Vinny testevertde
Dee Ford
Al Davis
Troy aikman

Oooh i read that wrong and fast.

Deberg_1990 05-17-2025 06:19 PM

Dare we include Kareem Hunt?


****ducking for cover****

listopencil 05-17-2025 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 18066614)
I was going to nominate Josh McDaniels. :mad:




Bill Romanowski and Josh MsDaniels have my vote.

DJJasonp 05-17-2025 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 18066688)
1. Aaron Hernandez
2. Rae Carruth
3. Jovan Belcher
4. OJ Simpson
5. Eric Naposki
6. Bill Romanowski


Belcher is a great nomination. And considering the spark that changed the trajectory of this franchise, based upon that early morning in the parking lot, none can define infamous, as a chief, more than that guy.

Zebedee DuBois 05-17-2025 06:38 PM

Herm Edwards and Todd Haley for what they did to us fans.

Jamie 05-17-2025 06:42 PM

Todd Haley - Pioli was probably worse at his job, but he at least gave me one reason to like him with the Ryan O'Callaghan story. Haley has no redeeming qualities.

Randy Cross - My least favorite commentator of all time, and for a while it seemed like we drew him every Sunday. **** Randy Cross.

Elvis Grbac - I think no explanation is necessary, but one of the least likable Chiefs of all time (non-murderer division) and author of the immortal quote "I can't throw it and catch it too."

Mark Schlereth - He's the first name that came to mind trying to think of media guys who gave credence to the "refs helping the Chiefs" thing. Maybe recency bias, but he's also a cheating Bronco, so **** him.

Easy 6 05-18-2025 10:06 AM

Albert Haynesworth and Suh should both be first ballot

Rain Man 05-18-2025 10:15 AM

Okay, we have 68 nominees right now for the inaugural class of the Hall of Infamy, shown in spoiler mode below.

Spoiler!


I kind of ignored the rule about only six nominations per person given the volume of candidates, so to be fair we'll open it up to further nominations, with no six-person limit. We'll go one more round of nominations and then begin the selection process.

Hydrae 05-18-2025 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18067067)
Okay, we have 68 nominees right now for the inaugural class of the Hall of Infamy, shown in spoiler mode below.

Spoiler!


I kind of ignored the rule about only six nominations per person given the volume of candidates, so to be fair we'll open it up to further nominations, with no six-person limit. We'll go one more round of nominations and then begin the selection process.

I would recommend we put in two or three classes this year. A Hall of Infamy with only 6 displays is not going to attract very many visitors. We need to be sure to have enough revenue to get to next year's balloting.

I do think limiting the inductions to only 6 per year going forward is a perfect amount.

wazu 05-18-2025 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 18067069)
I would recommend we put in two or three classes this year. A Hall of Infamy with only 6 displays is not going to attract very many visitors. We need to be sure to have enough revenue to get to next year's balloting.

I do think limiting the inductions to only 6 per year going forward is a perfect amount.

Yeah, looks like the Pro Football HOF had 17 inaugural inductees.

Rainbarrel 05-18-2025 10:53 AM

Farve may have his own wing. Strahan, dick pic, welfare scam
..

ChiliConCarnage 05-18-2025 11:07 AM

He may not make first ballot but Joe Namath attempted to besmirch Suzy Kolbers honor on public tv. It was pathetic and disgusting. I'm sure it wasn't a first offense either.

wazu 05-18-2025 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage (Post 18067096)
He may not make first ballot but Joe Namath attempted to besmirch Suzy Kolbers honor on public tv. It was pathetic and disgusting. I'm sure it wasn't a first offense either.

It was pretty pathetic, but one positive I hadn't known about was that afterwards in addition to publicly apologizing, Joe entered an outpatient program for alcoholism. He used the embarrassment from the incident as motivation to get and stay sober. So the outcome might be that it massively improved his own life. I don't think it hurt Suzy's image at all, either. She handled it perfectly in the moment, then afterwards immediately accepted his apology and moved on.

kysirsoze 05-18-2025 11:41 AM

You guys missed Darren Sharper.

Deberg_1990 05-18-2025 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 18067114)
You guys missed Darren Sharper.

For some reason I didn’t remember his Indiscretions at all. I had to go look it up.

rfaulk34 05-18-2025 11:50 AM

Barrett Robbins
Darryl Henley
Robert Rozier (this guy deserves first ballot)

Bearcat 05-18-2025 11:54 AM

Dan Snyder
Scott Pioli
Art Modell probably

Rain Man 05-18-2025 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 18067069)
I would recommend we put in two or three classes this year. A Hall of Infamy with only 6 displays is not going to attract very many visitors. We need to be sure to have enough revenue to get to next year's balloting.

I do think limiting the inductions to only 6 per year going forward is a perfect amount.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 18067077)
Yeah, looks like the Pro Football HOF had 17 inaugural inductees.

Excellent point. How about we follow the lead of the movies and induct a Dirty Dozen in Year 1?

Rain Man 05-18-2025 11:59 AM

I did a little research and will add the following to flesh out the candidate list:

Adrian Peterson
Alex Karris
Anthony Smith (Raiders DE)
Antonio Brown
Art Folz
Art Modell
Art Schicter
Bam Morris
Ben Roethlisberger
Bill Bidwell
Bill Walsh
Bo Jackson
Brett Favre
Brian Cushing
Buddy Ryan
Clinton Portis
Colin Kaepernick
Conrad Dobler
Cortland Finnegan
Cris Carter
Dan Snyder
Darrell Russell
Darren Sharper
Deshaun Watson
Donte Stallworth
Doug Atkins
Eli Manning
Elmore Stevens
Eric Bienemy
Eric Dickerson
Frankie Filchock
Fred Williamson
George Atkinson
Gregg Williams
Hines Ward
Hines Ward
Hollywood Henderson
Howie Long
Hugh Culverhouse
James Harrison
Jeff Triplette
Jim Irsay
Jimmy Haslam
Jimmy Smith
Joe Greene
Joey Porter, Sr.
John Matuszak
John Riggins
Jonathan Vilma
Josh Gordon
Josh Norman
Justin Tucker
Kareem Jackson
Kellen Winslow, Jr.
Kelly Stouffer
Kevin Gogan
Lester Hayes
Mark Gastineau
Marle Hapes
Matt Lepsis
Matt Millen
Michael Irvin
Mike Brown (Bengals owner)
Myles Garrett
Myron Cope
Nate Newton
Night Train Lane
Panthers cheerleaders Angela Ellen Keathley and Renee Thomas
Paul Hornung
Peyton Manning
Plaxico Burress
Richie Incognito
Rob Gronkowski
Robert Irsay
Robert Kraft
Robert McCune
Rodney Harrison
Roger Goodell
Ryan Leaf
Sam Hurd
Steve Smith
Steve Wisneiwski
Tamarick Vanover
Terrell Owens
Thurman Thomas
Todd Christensen
Todd Marinovich
Tony Siragusa
Von Miller
Willie McGinest

ChiliConCarnage 05-18-2025 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 18067107)
It was pretty pathetic, but one positive I hadn't known about was that afterwards in addition to publicly apologizing, Joe entered an outpatient program for alcoholism. He used the embarrassment from the incident as motivation to get and stay sober. So the outcome might be that it massively improved his own life. I don't think it hurt Suzy's image at all, either. She handled it perfectly in the moment, then afterwards immediately accepted his apology and moved on.

My post was mostly joking. I didn't know that about Joe getting help afterword. I'm sure that was embarrassing but it's nice that something good came from it.

ChiliConCarnage 05-18-2025 12:02 PM

The new list has some weird entries. What's the story here?

Panthers cheerleaders Angela Ellen Keathley and Renee Thomas

wazu 05-18-2025 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18067123)
Excellent point. How about we follow the lead of the movies and induct a Dirty Dozen in Year 1?

Sounds perfect.

Rain Man 05-18-2025 12:03 PM

We're up to 164 candidates now. We'll let it go another day or so, and will then begin the tournament. Let me know if I missed anybody who was nominated.

As a reminder, this is the pro football Hall of Infamy, not the Chiefs Hall of Infamy. But you can nominate Chiefs, of course.

Spoiler!

wazu 05-18-2025 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18067129)
We're up to 163 candidates now. We'll let it go another day or so, and will then begin the tournament. Let me know if I missed anybody who was nominated.

As a reminder, this is the pro football Hall of Infamy, not the Chiefs Hall of Infamy. But you can nominate Chiefs, of course.

Spoiler!

Also worth noting we don't want this to be the Broncos Hall of Infamy. If we unveil it and after 5 years we have 30 Broncos players it probably isn't going to be taken seriously.

Zebedee DuBois 05-18-2025 12:05 PM

All the murderers should be go in first.
IMO, nothings more shameful than stealing another persons's existence. Being unrepentant and evading justice just makes it worse.

jjchieffan 05-18-2025 12:06 PM

Since we're allowed to go over 6 nominations now, I have to add Carl Peterson. Trading picks for Berm Edwards to coach the team was ridiculous. If he wasn't the founder of our franchise and the AFL, I would be tempted to nominate Lamar Hunt for not firing him for that. Keeping him around 20 years was inexcusable.

Rain Man 05-18-2025 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage (Post 18067127)
The new list has some weird entries. What's the story here?

Panthers cheerleaders Angela Ellen Keathley and Renee Thomas

Did you google them?

I'm a big fan, but I figure they should be nominees.

Rain Man 05-18-2025 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 18067131)
Also worth noting we don't want this to be the Broncos Hall of Infamy. If we unveil it and after 5 years we have 30 Broncos players it probably isn't going to be taken seriously.

I was actually tempted to make a rule that at least half of inductees need to be outside the AFC West, due to the preponderance of broncos and Raiders players on the list. But it's hard to justify such a rule arbitrarily.

Rain Man 05-18-2025 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 18067133)
Since we're allowed to go over 6 nominations now, I have to add Carl Peterson. Trading picks for Berm Edwards to coach the team was ridiculous. If he wasn't the founder of our franchise and the AFL, I would be tempted to nominate Lamar Hunt for not firing him for that. Keeping him around 20 years was inexcusable.

Carl is added. I won't add Lamar unless you formally nominate him.

Imon Yourside 05-18-2025 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 18066595)
Lin Elliott, Matt Casshole, Steve Bono, Tyler Palko, Kendrick Lewis, and Orlando Scandrick.

Tyler Palko's ceiling was a mid grade college team, not his fault all we had was trash lolz

ChiliConCarnage 05-18-2025 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18067134)
Did you google them?

I'm a big fan, but I figure they should be nominees.

Ahh. Well, the league managed to survive that night at Banana Joes.

InChiefsHeaven 05-18-2025 12:13 PM

Wow. OJ Simpson could make BOTH halls...make it happen!!

Rain Man 05-18-2025 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois (Post 18067132)
All the murderers should be go in first.
IMO, nothings more shameful than stealing another persons's existence. Being unrepentant and evading justice just makes it worse.

Yeah. Well, after Bill Romanowski, of course.

wazu 05-18-2025 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 18067145)
Wow. OJ Simpson could make BOTH halls...make it happen!!

If he's not an inaugural member there's something wrong with our process.

MarkDavis'Haircut 05-18-2025 12:21 PM

Tom Brady
Mark Davis
The Chiefs Editorial Board

Rain Man 05-18-2025 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 18067153)
Tom Brady
Mark Davis
The Chiefs Editorial Board

Brady is unfortunately not yet eligible. And as a clarification request, is the Editorial Board the KC Star Editorial Board?

Rain Man 05-18-2025 12:30 PM

One striking observation about the list so far is that the television era makes infamy much more widely known. I suspect that there were a lot of infamous players prior to 1950, but with no video evidence it's hard to keep their memories alive.

MarkDavis'Haircut 05-18-2025 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18067156)
Brady is unfortunately not yet eligible. And as a clarification request, is the Editorial Board the KC Star Editorial Board?

No. Clay's infamous article.

MarkDavis'Haircut 05-18-2025 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18067160)
One striking observation about the list so far is that the television era makes infamy much more widely known. I suspect that there were a lot of infamous players prior to 1950, but with no video evidence it's hard to keep their memories alive.

The 1925 Pottsville Maroons.

For falsely claiming the 1925 NFL title.

Rain Man 05-18-2025 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 18067162)
No. Clay's infamous article.

Ah, okay. Got it.

jjchieffan 05-18-2025 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18067140)
Carl is added. I won't add Lamar unless you formally nominate him.

No. I can't bring myself to nominate Lamar Hunt. Despite his loyalty to keep Peterson (not to mention Steadman) way too long was definitely frustrating. But not enough to overshadow his accomplishments and put him on this list.

rfaulk34 05-18-2025 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 18067122)
Dan Snyder
Scott Pioli
Art Modell probably

Well, if we're going there, Mike Brown deserves first ballot.

RedinTexas 05-18-2025 01:03 PM

Certainly there has to be a section for owners/media and such. I nominate Dan Snyder for the owners and Brooke Pryor for media.

scho63 05-18-2025 04:00 PM

Scott Norwood

scho63 05-18-2025 04:00 PM

JaMarcus Russell

scho63 05-18-2025 04:01 PM

Bill Romanowski

scho63 05-18-2025 04:02 PM

Percy Snow

Ocotillo 05-18-2025 06:07 PM

Fans
Dom Casual for starting that cesspool Orange Huddle

Taco John for starting and closing the Orange Lame

MarkDavis'Haircut 05-18-2025 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 18067380)
JaMarcus Russell

Seconded

George Liquor 05-18-2025 06:18 PM

X-Factor, since he's in the real hall of fame too!!!

hometeam 05-18-2025 06:47 PM

Terrel Owens, Aaron Hernandez, Michael Vick, OJ Simpson, Ray Rice, Kellen Winslow

Deberg_1990 05-18-2025 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Liquor (Post 18067510)
X-Factor, since he's in the real hall of fame too!!!

🤣 was that ever proven as fact?

Bump 05-18-2025 07:03 PM

My top 3 without too much thought about it for each position

QB

Mike Vick (dogs)
Tom Brady (deflategate, tuck rule, makes out with son)
Ryan Leaf (bust and had meltdowns)

RB

Lawrence Phillips (piece of shit)
OJ Simpson (murder)
Ray Rice (wife beater)

WRs

Antonio Brown isn't eligible yet but here's a lock for this
Rae Carruth (murder)
Terrel Owens (attitude)

TEs

Aaron Hernandez (murder)
Kellen Winslow Jr (piece of shit)

OL

Richie Incognito (bully)
The Broncos dirty OL from the 90s (except their center because he played for my favorite team afterwards and did good)

dline

Ndamukong Suh (dirty but was a beast)
Albert Haynesworth (biggest free agent bust all time, lazy AF)
Aldon Smith (probably would have been a hall of famer if he wasn't a criminal)

Linebackers

Bill Romanowski (roids, dirty)
Vontaze Burfict (cheap shot artist)
Ray Lewis (murder)

CBs

Pacman Jones (was in a lot of trouble early in his career)
Aquib Talib (dirty)
Jalen Ramsey (I just never liked him)

Safeties

Rodney Harrison (Dirty)
John Lynch (dirty)
Kareem Jackson (dirty)

Ocotillo 05-18-2025 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois (Post 18067132)
All the murderers should be go in first.
IMO, nothings more shameful than stealing another persons's existence. Being unrepentant and evading justice just makes it worse.

Ed Elway is now a killer.


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