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teedubya 04-25-2004 02:34 PM

Fugg off Kris Wilson
 
I look forward to seeing you get cut.

[yes i have anger issues... and they wont go away... like I am getting repeatedly getting kicked in the nuts.]

Phobia 04-25-2004 02:37 PM

Not I. I hope he develops into Larry Centers.

Ebolapox 04-25-2004 02:38 PM

wait, larry centers?? wasn't he an undrafted fullback??

-EBOLA-...far cry from second round TE

Ultra Peanut 04-25-2004 02:43 PM

Quote:

I look forward to seeing you get cut.
You're going to be waiting a long, long time.

Talisman 04-25-2004 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chi3fs
I look forward to seeing you get cut.

I'm not even going to ask why you would want to watch, but which bio told you he was uncircumcised?

Blindside58 04-25-2004 02:52 PM

You are a Jacka$$
 
This guy is going to be used as the possession h-back or crossing receiver to go over th middle for 7-10 yards. obviously you don't read or hear anything other than seeing the little TE next to the name!

KC Jones 04-25-2004 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chi3fs
I look forward to seeing you get cut.

[yes i have anger issues... and they wont go away... like I am getting repeatedly getting kicked in the nuts.]


Odd, from all your crying I assumed you had no nuts at all. I thought maybe you got some sand in your vagina.


:evil:





It was just too easy to pass up.

Captain Obvious 04-25-2004 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Jones
Odd, from all your crying I assumed you had no nuts at all. I thought maybe you got some sand in your vagina.


ZIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Deberg_1990 04-25-2004 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chi3fs
I look forward to seeing you get cut.

[yes i have anger issues... and they wont go away... like I am getting repeatedly getting kicked in the nuts.]


You know...why would you want to see this guy fail as a Chief?? I didnt like the pick either.....and still dont see the value in it.....but i dont wish him to fail. Speaking as a fan...i hope all these guys blow up! I doubt they will though..but its nice to wish..

headsnap 04-25-2004 03:28 PM

it looks like we have our new Phony Gonzalez. :rolleyes:

Coach 04-25-2004 03:31 PM

Haha ENDelt! That was awesome! ROFL

morphius 04-25-2004 03:43 PM

I like this, lets hate the player for the because of the FO screwing up.

Ultra Peanut 04-25-2004 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENDelt260
Bwahahahaha! I remember this pic!

Yeah, I remember it from last year, too. Classic.

Eleazar 04-25-2004 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morphius
I like this, lets hate the player for the because of the FO screwing up.

No kidding. The kid just got drafted to play pro football. It isn't his fault who picked him. What kind of a fan roots for their team's players to fail?

htismaqe 04-28-2004 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chi3fs
We could have got this dude in round 4.

Prove it.

I'm not a fan of the pick. But what you just said is pure opinion. You have NO WAY of proving it.

Eleazar 04-28-2004 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe
Prove it.

I'm not a fan of the pick. But what you just said is pure opinion. You have NO WAY of proving it.

From what I've read he was the 2nd TE on most boards.

Wile_E_Coyote 04-28-2004 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headsnap
it looks like we have our new Phony Gonzalez. :rolleyes:

cool, after a slew of Dante...er Kris sucks threads & the Chiefs have a new superstar :)

Iowanian 04-28-2004 08:41 AM

Its not the player's fault he was selected. As A Chiefs fan, I want him to succeed as much as possible....I too would like to see him produce like Larry Centers.

I too sense some vaginal sand on the thread.

Lzen 04-28-2004 08:48 AM

What is wrong with you? You suck. As a Chiefs fan, you should want all our players to succeed whether or not you like them or where they were picked in the draft.

Iowanian 04-28-2004 08:49 AM

Friendly advice....don't stand so close to the microwave with that beanie....

Lots of people want the Chiefs draft picks to fail.



.....here, we call them Raider fans.

Eleazar 04-28-2004 08:53 AM

Exactly, who in the hell roots for our players to fail? Donk and Raiders fans?

Someone should bump this every time he does something positive.

Chief Faithful 04-28-2004 09:01 AM

The curiosity factor alone was worth the second round pick.

We know that Saunders is a creative OC with an attack mentality. We also know that Wilson was is a highly rated TE because of his downfield receiving ability. Plus, Vermiel has also eluded to the need for a player like Wilson to open a whole new area of the playbook. I'm hoping Kris Wilson becomes a thorn in the side of Donkey and Faider fans for years to come.

Frankie 04-28-2004 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chi3fs
I look forward to seeing you get cut.

Wow!.... THAT's really wishing the best for the Chiefs! :rolleyes:

Coogs 04-28-2004 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chi3fs
ok this kris wilson guy may become a player... fine. Everyone jumped on his nuts on this thread. We could have got this dude in round 4.

I wish I could post the link to Rick Gosselin's top 100 (I can, but it does not work. It did for 1 day, and I printed out a copy that I am going to go off of here.).

Many here consider Gosselin to be the best of the best with regards to knowledge about the draft. And many here declared most of our draft picks to be reaches.

From my printed out copy, here is where Gosselin had our top three draft picks ranked in his pre-draft top 100...

#47 Junior Savaii
#53 Kris Wilson
#79 Keyaron Fox


So from Gosselin's top 100, it appears we did quite well this past weekend.

I'm looking forward to seeing all three of these guys play.

bringbackmarty 04-28-2004 11:26 AM

you guys dont get it. The pick only makes sense if they dump gonzalez in the next two years. Or they will waste him at fullback.

Abba-Dabba 04-28-2004 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EBOLA
wait, larry centers?? wasn't he an undrafted fullback??

-EBOLA-...far cry from second round TE

I'd settle for a Daryl Johnston, Leroy Hoard, Mike Alstott, Jim Kleinsasser, Jason Dunn clone though.

Eleazar 04-28-2004 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bringbackmarty
you guys dont get it. The pick only makes sense if they dump gonzalez in the next two years. Or they will waste him at fullback.

:rolleyes:

Coogs 04-28-2004 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bringbackmarty
you guys dont get it. The pick only makes sense if they dump gonzalez in the next two years. Or they will waste him at fullback.

I watched Wilson (and Fox) in the Senior Bowl game a couple of nights ago. Wilson did a nice job in that game. His blocking was pretty good, and he was open nearly every pass pattern he ran. Never was thrown too, but he was open.

Having Wilson and Gonzo as dual TE's gives a different dimension than Dunn and Gonzo at the TE spots. Wilson will be a receiving threat (besides goalline situations) all of the time.

And, if you remember, Ray Lewis said that the Ravens knew the Chiefs were going to run, and where they were going to run when Dunn was on the field. To me, this is the reason Wilson was drafted.

Chief Faithful 04-28-2004 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bringbackmarty
you guys dont get it. The pick only makes sense if they dump gonzalez in the next two years. Or they will waste him at fullback.

Based on quotes from Vermiel I would have to say you "don't get it". There are whole schemes they want to use that they don't use today because they didn't have a second downfield receiving threat at TE. Second, how is Wilson a waste if he develops into Richardson's successor? It sounds like he has all the right measureables and skills.

Abba-Dabba 04-28-2004 11:56 AM

I'm happy with the draft this year. Did we fill every need? NO.. Did we really think we were going to fill every need? NO...

The veteran players on the roster now in those positions of need are just going to have to buck up and do their job better.

htismaqe 04-29-2004 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chi3fs
you know, when this thread was created I had sandpaper in my vagina. IN my minds eye, I see Our Favorite Non Drafted Kicker... booting a 50 yarder on us to win it in SD...

If he is really a top 60 player... excellent...Carl is a genious [CP sp] If he succeeds, Ill be stoked and praise Carl...if not.. and Wilson gets cut in 2-3 years, you can bet Ill have the same kinda smirk that Eli had on his face when he finally got that Giants jersey.

Is the value of a FG still 3 points?

Kaeding is going to have a hard time kicking a game-winner against when we score 4 times as many TD's as San Diego does.

LVNHACK 04-29-2004 05:10 PM

The Wilson picked really pissed me off at the time.........I'm now taking a wait and see approach..............

Dr. Johnny Fever 04-29-2004 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talisman
I'm not even going to ask why you would want to watch, but which bio told you he was uncircumcised?

Your post was great.......but your avatar may be the best I've ever seen... ROFL

Logical 04-29-2004 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe
Prove it.

I'm not a fan of the pick. But what you just said is pure opinion. You have NO WAY of proving it.

I do not know Parker from everything I read there were many experts that thought he might not get drafted at all because he is too small to be an NFL TE. Anyone else drafting him as a FB or H-Back candidate would have done so on the 2nd day if at all because you don't draft fullbacks and H-backs in the top 3 rounds.

Logical 04-29-2004 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe
Is the value of a FG still 3 points?

Kaeding is going to have a hard time kicking a game-winner against when we score 4 times as many TD's as San Diego does.

:hmmm:

28-24

Sure seems like Kaeding could have been a difference maker in that game.

teedubya 04-29-2004 05:48 PM

well i would be interested in how many people now, would still prefer Kris Wilson or Nate Kaeding...

My guess is over 90% would want Kaeding, if not more. I wont make a poll, because this is a dead horse.

craneref 04-29-2004 05:54 PM

While not a big fan of the pick, I hope that every player in a CHIEFS uniform turns into a Hall of Famer, that benefits the CHIEFS. Hoping that players that are on the CHIEFS roster fail becasue you don't like the pick is counterproductive to the CHIEFS winning. My main concern is the CHIEFS with a SB ring, not focusing on who I hope fails. I remember the discord on Dante Hall for a couple of years, but everybody is glad that we have him now. GO CHIEFS.

penchief 04-29-2004 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saggysack
I'm happy with the draft this year. Did we fill every need? NO.. Did we really think we were going to fill every need? NO...

The veteran players on the roster now in those positions of need are just going to have to buck up and do their job better.

I agree. While some people thought we reached for players like Siavii and Wilson, I would rather see them reach for players THEY BELIEVE will help our team over players that will satisfy the public's desire to see a specific need filled by a media choice that would likely go the way of most draft picks anyway.

Wallcrawler 04-29-2004 08:01 PM

Wilson is going to be great for us. The guy can play fullback, Tight end, even some wide reciever, and also is a good gunner on special teams.

This guy can do 4 different things for us, whereas a kicker hardly gets into the game.

Besides, we already have Lawrence Tynes signed to a contract, a 2 year deal if I remember, after he lit up the CFL last year. I think he hit 84% of his FGs and has a strong leg. If we drafted Kaeding, that would have made 3 kickers on the roster. That makes less sense than 4 tight ends, one of which can play 4 different spots.

whoman69 04-29-2004 08:13 PM

Wilson is a pick that has alot of value for a very small % of the league's teams. For this reason alone, he could not be valued as high as Gosselin lists him at. Almost noone is able to input an Hback into their scheme. Because we have Tony Gonzales, the threat is there in the two tight end set for a run or pass because of Gonzales ability to block for the run. Other teams who have a top receiving TE do not have the blocking ability to bluff the run play. They cannot input a FB into the passing game except as a screen pass because they would be too dependent upon them for protection. Name a half a dozen teams that could input Wilson into their system. Only by that mark could he be considered that high a pick. He would fail as the prototypical TE in the other systems because of his size and lack of blocking ability. He is only a high pick to the Chiefs, and the Chiefs upped the ante against themselves.

Ultra Peanut 04-29-2004 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe
Is the value of a FG still 3 points?

Kaeding is going to have a hard time kicking a game-winner against when we score 4 times as many TD's as San Diego does.

Exactly. If we're in position to lose to the Chargers by a field goal, we're in the kind of shape that even the Almighty Kaeding couldn't help.

Ultra Peanut 04-29-2004 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav
I do not know Parker from everything I read there were many experts that thought he might not get drafted at all because he is too small to be an NFL TE. Anyone else drafting him as a FB or H-Back candidate would have done so on the 2nd day if at all because you don't draft fullbacks and H-backs in the top 3 rounds.

http://www.nflfans.com/draft/2004/sh...=Kris%20Wilson

Kris Wilson

Position: TE
College: Pittsburgh
Projected Selection: Round2

Pros: While not that big as tight ends go, Wilson has quickness and is also an excellent blocker...has soft hands and is very good at gaining yards after catch

Cons: Maybe a bit undersized as N.F.L. tIght ends go.

So no, not everyone thought he was going to go undrafted. And if I'd seen some of the game footage of him I've seen since we drafted him before we'd drafted him, I might very well have been on his bandwagon like I was on Kaeding's or Colbert's.

whoman69 04-29-2004 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psicosis
http://www.nflfans.com/draft/2004/sh...=Kris%20Wilson

Kris Wilson

Position: TE
College: Pittsburgh
Projected Selection: Round2

Pros: While not that big as tight ends go, Wilson has quickness and is also an excellent blocker...has soft hands and is very good at gaining yards after catch

Cons: Maybe a bit undersized as N.F.L. tIght ends go.

So no, not everyone thought he was going to go undrafted. And if I'd seen some of the game footage of him I've seen since we drafted him before we'd drafted him, I might very well have been on his bandwagon like I was on Kaeding's or Colbert's.

NFL draft countdown- round 4-5, #7 ranked TE, #131 overall
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/draft/value.html
NFL Draft Insiders #10 ranked TE, not listed amongst top 100 picks
http://www.draftinsiders.com/
NFL Draft Blitz- rd 4-5 on the value board, 87th amongst top 100 picks, #5 ranked TE
http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/
HuddleReport- #78 overall, combine analysis: Kris Wilson Pittsburgh

Kris is a good college player that could be a good pro player if he were more consistent. He really should be moved to the FB position in the pros. He came in and did his drills and did very well, but his size makes the move at the next level to FB a natural. Of course that makes him eligible to be picked in the second day of the draft.
http://thehuddlereport.com/
Great Blue North- #131 overall, #5 ranked TE
http://www.gbnreport.com/index.htm
Rob's Scouting- #145 on the big board, #5 TE, 5th round value
http://www.robscouting.com/

Ebolapox 04-29-2004 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saggysack
I'd settle for a Daryl Johnston, Leroy Hoard, Mike Alstott, Jim Kleinsasser, Jason Dunn clone though.

agreed... good show, saggy

-EB-

royr17 04-29-2004 11:53 PM

I actually like the Kris Wilson pick, i've played the college football game and let me tell u he is pretty darn good on there and he's not a TE he plays FB on there. He may be better than Centers, Anders, and Richardson.

yoswif 04-30-2004 06:20 AM

Last night, the NFL channel was showing a Larry Fitzgerald highlight. On the play, Wilson lined up at tight end on the same side. Wilson got off the line so quick and blew past the linebackers so fast, he drew triple coverage and Fitzgerald beat single coverage for a nice 20 yard gain.

If Wilson was 30 lbs lighter, he would have been considered just as good a receiving prospect as Clayton or Woods, imo.

htismaqe 04-30-2004 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69
Wilson is a pick that has alot of value for a very small % of the league's teams. For this reason alone, he could not be valued as high as Gosselin lists him at. Almost noone is able to input an Hback into their scheme. Because we have Tony Gonzales, the threat is there in the two tight end set for a run or pass because of Gonzales ability to block for the run. Other teams who have a top receiving TE do not have the blocking ability to bluff the run play. They cannot input a FB into the passing game except as a screen pass because they would be too dependent upon them for protection. Name a half a dozen teams that could input Wilson into their system. Only by that mark could he be considered that high a pick. He would fail as the prototypical TE in the other systems because of his size and lack of blocking ability. He is only a high pick to the Chiefs, and the Chiefs upped the ante against themselves.

Lack of blocking ability? Walt Harris talks about the kid like he's the 2nd-coming.

Many, many teams use H-backs. The Minnesota Vikings had Wilson rated as a possible 2nd-rounder on their board according to Paul Allen (their Bob Gretz).

Pitt Gorilla 08-13-2004 10:08 PM

Bump.

Sure-Oz 08-13-2004 10:14 PM

He had a good night tonight, except the 2 drops, just another solid weapon for this O.

KcMizzou 08-13-2004 10:15 PM

ROFLROFLROFL great bump.

teedubya 08-13-2004 11:50 PM

classic bump, I give thee rep. I was so very angry at that pick initially... Obviously I am excited to see him succeeding a bit. With Marty getting the Kicker we coveted, I was upset... heh. anyways...

Kylo Ren 11-02-2004 11:21 AM

Just thought I'd help out Ali Chi3fs.

Mr. Laz 11-02-2004 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morphius
I like this, lets hate the player for the because of the FO screwing up.

exactly...

it's not Kris wilson OR Larry Johnson's fault that we have put them into a tough position.

i imagine they are both solid players



our FO just sucks... focus thy attention where it's deserved

htismaqe 11-02-2004 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazarus
exactly...

it's not Kris wilson OR Larry Johnson's fault that we have put them into a tough position.

i imagine they are both solid players



our FO just sucks... focus thy attention where it's deserved

:clap:

ROYC75 11-02-2004 12:45 PM

Yep, what a quick response on Wilson, he looked good in PS, sad he is injured.

But honestly, Green has a hard time spreading the rock around now, really how is it that Wilson will help this offense as a TE, slot or FB.

I love offense, but I'm a big defensive homer and believes we have enough tools on offense as it is.

teedubya 11-02-2004 01:20 PM

yeah, this thread was day off or day after draft... Id like to see what he can do now...although Id be happier with Nate Kaeding on our team... Tines blows thoroughly.

Bowser 11-02-2004 01:36 PM

ROFL @ Ali! So angry!!

Hopefully, we'll soon be able to see if this signing was good, or another Peterson turd. I thought I heard on the radio that Kris could be ready in three weeks.........

KC Jones 11-07-2006 09:48 PM

Welll... maybe the guy is turning into a decent addition after all.

:D

Ebolapox 11-07-2006 09:53 PM

good ole' hindsight

Stinger 11-07-2006 09:54 PM

Damnit Carl !!!!!! :cuss:





:D

Ultra Peanut 11-07-2006 09:55 PM

HAY GUYS WHATZ GOIN ON IN THIS THREAD

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut
You're going to be waiting a long, long time.

OH HAI

Ebolapox 11-07-2006 09:58 PM

Yeah... well............ JUNIOR SIAVII

teedubya 11-08-2006 12:19 AM

Well, like I said in 2004, its nice to see him contributing a bit... I really think this hybrid of him being WR, FB, TE is putting him in an unique position to succeed.

KcMizzou 11-08-2006 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs
Id be happier with Nate Kaeding on our team... Tines blows thoroughly.

Say what?

HemiEd 11-08-2006 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz
exactly...

it's not Kris wilson OR Larry Johnson's fault that we have put them into a tough position.

i imagine they are both solid players



our FO just sucks... focus thy attention where it's deserved


LMAO

Lzen 11-08-2006 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talisman
I'm not even going to ask why you would want to watch, but which bio told you he was uncircumcised?


ROFL Strange sense of humor, that Talisman.

These old threads are funny when they turn out like this. But I'm sure we've all said something stupid that could be brought back up to bite us.

Lzen 11-08-2006 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs
yeah, this thread was day off or day after draft... Id like to see what he can do now...although Id be happier with Nate Kaeding on our team... Tines blows thoroughly.

Ha ha ha ha........ 0 for 2 in this thread.

:LOL:

jidar 11-08-2006 09:13 AM

hehe...

siberian khatru 11-08-2006 10:18 AM

Somewhere there's a thread from early this season in which I said something to the effect of "does anyone doubt that Kris Wilson will be cut after this year?"

Oooooops.

Ebolapox 11-08-2006 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou
Say what?

he's no fan of these:

<img src="http://www.danishglass.com/new_look/pictures/georg_jensen/stainless/mitra/georg%20jensen%20mitra%20fork%203300012.jpg">

HemiEd 11-08-2006 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru
Somewhere there's a thread from early this season in which I said something to the effect of "does anyone doubt that Kris Wilson will be cut after this year?"

Oooooops.

Yep, I have a lot of posts on here stating how great I thought Craphonso Thorpe was going to be as well.

Eleazar 11-08-2006 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs
yeah, this thread was day off or day after draft... Id like to see what he can do now...although Id be happier with Nate Kaeding on our team... Tines blows thoroughly.

Dude is the oracle of football!

teedubya 04-23-2010 09:41 PM

This was how I felt in the second round today.

RealSNR 04-23-2010 09:43 PM

What's the difference between a Dick Vermeil draft and a Scott Pioli draft?

I don't see any difference.

TEX 04-23-2010 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 6707319)
What's the difference between a Dick Vermeil draft and a Scott Pioli draft?

I don't see any difference.

Especially if you look at round 2 this year. WTF was that? We traded TG for a role playing midget. :shake:

Buck 04-23-2010 09:46 PM

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you mad?

aturnis 04-23-2010 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 6707334)
Especially if you look at round 2 this year. WTF was that? We traded TG for a role playing midget. :shake:

Slot receiver is not a role player. Is Wes Welker a role player? No, he's been a healthy sum of NE's offense since he landed there.

TEX 04-23-2010 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 6707378)
Slot receiver is not a role player. Is Wes Welker a role player? No, he's been a healthy sum of NE's offense since he landed there.

McCluster is gonna play the slot, not Arenus.

buddha 04-23-2010 10:26 PM

Just remember that Kris Wilson is going to redefine his position...whatever that meant to those mental midgets. The great Kris Wilson experiment forever ruined all future Chiefs experiments for me. Draft guys who play the position you want them to play and get proven performers. It's not that hard.

teedubya 05-11-2014 06:52 PM

I hope you're working at a Walmart or perhaps a McDonald's within a WalMart, Kris Wilson!!!11

[since we're bumping old threads]


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