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Mr. Laz 09-10-2004 10:13 AM

Johnny Morton now "doubtful"??
 
apparently a new MRI has now shown a small tear in his Achilles




potential for increased injury.



according to Metrosports




(btw might be new and old info mixed together... they were kinda vague)

ROYC75 09-10-2004 10:15 AM

This is new news to me ...... Ouch !

The Bad Guy 09-10-2004 10:15 AM

Vermeil said he was fine in his morning PC.

Bwana 09-10-2004 10:15 AM

swell :shake:

David. 09-10-2004 10:16 AM

I don't want to hear it. I'm definitely nervous for the donko game.

Mr. Laz 09-10-2004 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy
Vermeil said he was fine in his morning PC.


:shrug: i don't know...



they are just showing a new metrosports this morning and talked about the tear ... which i hadn't heard before.


also talked about how he thought about retiring this preseason because of the possibility of "blowing his Achilles" completely.

TRR 09-10-2004 10:20 AM

Sounds fishy to me. You sure this isn't old news? He's been going full go on it, even this morning....

vckcchiefs04 09-10-2004 10:23 AM

Have not found this news anywhere!!

TRR 09-10-2004 10:23 AM

9/10....

GRETZ: How much do you expect to get out of Johnnie Morton on Sunday?

VERMEIL: “Everything he has to give. Anything less will not be acceptable. Johnnie Morton is a pro and he knows what’s expected of him. He made two catches on the practice field this week that looked like he’d never missed a practice. I don’t know if he’ll have the stamina you need or anything like that, but we’ll rotate him through and I believe he’ll make a big play.”

Soupnazi 09-10-2004 10:24 AM

What's going on here? Can anyone confirm this other than Metrosports?

ChiTown 09-10-2004 10:32 AM

I'm really tiring of this pansie ass muther*****er. Let Richard Smith play in his spot for a while and I bet Cindy Morton will heal up pretty quickly.....

Mr. Laz 09-10-2004 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR
Sounds fishy to me. You sure this isn't old news? He's been going full go on it, even this morning....

its a new show ....


now whether MetroSports is playing mixed and match, i dont know

Brock 09-10-2004 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown
I'm really tiring of this pansie ass muther*****er. Let Richard Smith play in his spot for a while and I bet Cindy Morton will heal up pretty quickly.....

Ssshh. Morton is still on the team, so you can't talk bad about him.

ChiTown 09-10-2004 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock Landers
Ssshh. Morton is still on the team, so you can't talk bad about him.

***** em.

It's my opinion. If people can't see what a worthless bag of crap this guy is, that's their fault.

TRR 09-10-2004 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazarus
its a new show ....


now whether MetroSports is playing mixed and match, i dont know

Well according to Vermeil, he practiced this morning and had no setbacks. 810 just reported that there hasn't been a decision on how much Morton will play, but that he will play Sunday night after being out a month.

Rausch 09-10-2004 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR
Well according to Vermeil, he practiced this morning and had no setbacks. 810 just reported that there hasn't been a decision on how much Morton will play, but that he will play Sunday night after being out a month.

:hmmm:

StcChief 09-10-2004 11:15 AM

If Morton doesn't step up soon and have some good games, he's done with Chiefs.

King_Chief_Fan 09-10-2004 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vckcchiefs04
Have not found this news anywhere!!

You may have to look where the Portis is out for 8-12 weeks comments came from..........out of someone's ARSE

Sure-Oz 09-10-2004 11:33 AM

I knew Morton would not be ready. Time to see what the Rookies can do, they gotta step up sunday night.

TRR 09-10-2004 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz
I knew Morton would not be ready. Time to see what the Rookies can do, they gotta step up sunday night.

Problem is...Morton's ready.

Sure-Oz 09-10-2004 11:39 AM

Even if he is ready or whatever I don't see him being that effective, we will see.

Gaz 09-10-2004 11:42 AM

Take a seat, Johnny...
 

Go with Hall & Smith.

xoxo~
Gaz
Less concerned than some about Morton’s position.

bringbackmarty 09-10-2004 11:52 AM

Well my dad used to say, there's some truth in all reports. Morton probably has a microscopic tear in his achillies. He also is probably ready to go. He does have a knack for avoiding the big play.

TRR 09-10-2004 11:53 AM

I may be in the minority, but I'm not counting on anything from Richard Smith. How many rookies have looked good in the Preseason only to do nothing in the regular season? I am not comfortable at all with Richard Smith as our 3rd WR in Denver for the first game of the regular season. He really hasn't shown me anything yet that I've said, "Wow...that kid can play." The TD catch against Dallas was nice but who'd he beat for that TD? 2nd teamers...3rd teamers?

We will see, but I'd feel a lot better with a former 1,000 yard vet at the 3rd WR spot than an undrafted rook.

Mark M 09-10-2004 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock Landers
Ssshh. Morton is still on the team, so you can't talk bad about him.

ROFL

MM
~~:LOL:

TNTEICHER 09-10-2004 11:57 AM

He's still listed as probable on kcchiefs.com

jagerdrinker 09-10-2004 12:09 PM

Anyone ever stop to think that maybe KC is using this as a ploy for Denver to gameplan for Morton, and spend less time gameplanning for receiver X (be it Hall, Smith, etc.) If that's the case, it's brilliant.

Demonpenz 09-10-2004 12:12 PM

the game plan would have been installed a week or so ago

Chief Fanatic 09-10-2004 02:14 PM

How many balls that hit Richard Smith in the hands did he drop? That former 1000 yard receiver never showed up here after he left Detroit.

TRR 09-10-2004 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Fanatic
How many balls that hit Richard Smith in the hands did he drop? That former 1000 yard receiver never showed up here after he left Detroit.

That I remember? None. He does have a wopping 8 catches to his credit in the NFL though. On second thought, I'd rather go with the undrafted rook with 8 catches on his resume, rather than a vet with 500+ catches on his.

sparkky 09-10-2004 02:21 PM

I personally think Mortons' fate was sealed before Bo got hurt for the year.
I fully expected to see him gone, and Horn make the roster.

InChiefsHeaven 09-10-2004 02:21 PM

Dammit. Where's Sylvester Morris when you need him?

vckcchiefs04 09-10-2004 02:22 PM

1000 yards in Detroit means nothing........that's because they piled up yards after being down by so much all the time, then had to pass to get back in it. Barry Sanders has the only yards in the history of that team that mean a thing! :o) <<< Morton

Chief Fanatic 09-10-2004 02:22 PM

I'd rather have hope in Smith. If Morton plays, I'll root for him like any other Chief, but he has dropped too many balls. Just take a look back to the colts game, he had three key drops. A Veteran?

jcroft 09-10-2004 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR
The TD catch against Dallas was nice but who'd he beat for that TD? 2nd teamers...3rd teamers?

Dexter Coakley.

Chief Fanatic 09-10-2004 02:23 PM

Bo and Wilson are going to be missed severely in this offense.

TRR 09-10-2004 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcroft
Dexter Coakley.

I've got the game on tape....So he beat a LB?

I like Richard Smith's potential. I think he has a ton of it, and he was a great find. But going into Denver, I am not confident in Smith at all. I hope he proves me wrong, but I would rather have Johnnie Morton to rely on than Richard Smith at this point in the season.

sparkky 09-10-2004 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Fanatic
Bo and Wilson are going to be missed severely in this offense.

I tend to agree.

TRR 09-10-2004 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Fanatic
I'd rather have hope in Smith. If Morton plays, I'll root for him like any other Chief, but he has dropped too many balls. Just take a look back to the colts game, he had three key drops. A Veteran?

Your talking about one game. Holmes fumble was killer as well. Nobody seems to talk about that. I'm not saying Morton's God, I'm just saying that I'd rather have Morton lined up against Denver more than I would Richard Smith...Who still has a lot to prove to me, like actually making a catch in a game that counts.

Chief Fanatic 09-10-2004 02:28 PM

My point is this: Morton was brought in here to be a #1 relieable, count on him receiver and what's he done for us. Big Disappointment, there's no doubt he was great with Detroit, but something happened when he came here, first year he couldn't get the offense. Second they moved him where he was "comfortable" and he was still a bust. Year 3--- To be Seen

TRR 09-10-2004 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Fanatic
Bo and Wilson are going to be missed severely in this offense.

I WHOLE HEARTEDLY DISAGREE. Boerigter did nothing in this offense last season and Kris Wilson was still at Pitt. How can we miss both of them when neither of them showed up last season???

jcroft 09-10-2004 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR
I've got the game on tape....So he beat a LB?

I like Richard Smith's potential. I think he has a ton of it, and he was a great find. But going into Denver, I am not confident in Smith at all. I hope he proves me wrong, but I would rather have Johnnie Morton to rely on than Richard Smith at this point in the season.

I don't know who he beat. I just took the opportunity to slam Dallas once again for playing their starters all game. :)

it was a joke, sorry.

Chief Fanatic 09-10-2004 02:30 PM

I'd sure like to see our O go into Denver with Bo, so we could have a big receiver for the middle of the field, then throw in Wilson with Tony G. If only!!

jcroft 09-10-2004 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Fanatic
Bo and Wilson are going to be missed severely in this offense.

I agree, but think we can overcome, given that they didn't really contibute last year, either.

But, yes, we would have been MUCH better off with them.

TRR 09-10-2004 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Fanatic
My point is this: Morton was brought in here to be a #1 relieable, count on him receiver and what's he done for us. Big Disappointment, there's no doubt he was great with Detroit, but something happened when he came here, first year he couldn't get the offense. Second they moved him where he was "comfortable" and he was still a bust. Year 3--- To be Seen

Many fans expectations were to high for Johnnie Morton. He's done some good things here in KC. I thought he had a solid season last year. I think he'll improve on that season this year. If he can stay healthy.

Dr. Johnny Fever 09-10-2004 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR
I WHOLE HEARTEDLY DISAGREE. Boerigter did nothing in this offense last season and Kris Wilson was still at Pitt. How can we miss both of them when neither of them showed up last season???

What he said. How can you miss something you never had?

Chief Fanatic 09-10-2004 02:32 PM

Hope so

jcroft 09-10-2004 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer me
What he said. How can you miss something you never had?

The offense late year wasn't good enough. Sure, it was great, but if it doesn't get better ever year, it's not good enough. Plus, our outside passing game was never super hot. I think Wilson and Bo gave people hope that we would 1. continue to improve and 2. have more options on the outside.

Chief Fanatic 09-10-2004 02:33 PM

I'm going off of Bo's 1st year and the preseason of them both. Bo looked and played way more determined, and they took Wilson leaving everyone shell shocked as to why, but they said it's because he can be used to change the whole scheme against Defenses

Chief Fanatic 09-10-2004 02:33 PM

Agree with J Croft

TRR 09-10-2004 02:34 PM

JCROFT,
I'm sending some rep your way. How a man can post 4,000 times and only have to ticks of rep is beyond me.

I got the joke....

TRR 09-10-2004 02:35 PM

Man JCroft...Now I know why you don't have any rep.

Our Offense wasn't good enough last season?? ROFLMAO

Chief Fanatic 09-10-2004 02:37 PM

Defenses always catch up. Always, always room for improvement, they say themselves all the time. Green, Vermeil, Priest Gonzo, they all say it.

jcroft 09-10-2004 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR
JCROFT,
I'm sending some rep your way. How a man can post 4,000 times and only have to ticks of rep is beyond me.

I got the joke....

Lol...well, it WAS good neough for LAST season. But it needs to get better THIS season. That was my point.

As for my rep -- Probably 3800 of my 4000 posts came before the "rep" system existed. I recently returned from a long ChiefsPlanet hiatus. :)

TRR 09-10-2004 02:39 PM

Um, he said the Offense wasn't good enough LAST SEASON. That has nothing to do with improving this season. He stated LAST SEASON.

Fact of the matter is, if our O was anything less than it was, we might have finished 0-16 last year.

Our O was plenty good. And you can improve on things with the same players. You don't have to go out and get players to improve. A healthier Priest Holmes will automatically improve this O.

Chief Fanatic 09-10-2004 02:39 PM

Can someone explain the rep system please

TRR 09-10-2004 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcroft
Lol...well, it WAS good neough for LAST season. But it needs to get better THIS season. That was my point.

As for my rep -- Probably 3800 of my 4000 posts came before the "rep" system existed. I recently returned from a long ChiefsPlanet hiatus. :)

Well Damnit, I sent some pos rep your way anyways!

jcroft 09-10-2004 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR
Um, he said the Offense wasn't good enough LAST SEASON. That has nothing to do with improving this season. He stated LAST SEASON.

Fact of the matter is, if our O was anything less than it was, we might have finished 0-16 last year.

Our O was plenty good. And you can improve on things with the same players. You don't have to go out and get players to improve. A healthier Priest Holmes will automatically improve this O.

Your're right -- I wasn't very clear. But, my point was that it was great last season, but that won't be good enough for this season. I should've made it more clear. My bad.

TRR 09-10-2004 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Fanatic
Can someone explain the rep system please

People rep you for good posts and replies. And they can negatively rep you if they don't like your posts.

Reading your posts and replies, you won't have to worry about the positive rep too much. (J/K).

ChiTown 09-10-2004 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Fanatic
Can someone explain the rep system please

Yes it's a tool for kids who were uber geeks in High School that validates that they became cool in their adulthood.
:) :p

Chief Fanatic 09-10-2004 02:42 PM

I need a buddy huh?

jcroft 09-10-2004 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown
Yes it's a tool for kids who were uber geeks in High School that validates that they became cool in their adulthood.
:) :p

Hah.

You should get some reps just for that post alone. :)

jcroft 09-10-2004 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENDelt260
I had no idea I was so transparent.

Well, you're not <em>quote</em> transparent yet. But, if your ass gets any more white, you'll be clear. :)

TEX 09-10-2004 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR
I WHOLE HEARTEDLY DISAGREE. Boerigter did nothing in this offense last season and Kris Wilson was still at Pitt. How can we miss both of them when neither of them showed up last season???

We can miss what they "could" have brought this year. I thought both represented the way that KC was going to improve on offense.

Braincase 09-10-2004 03:31 PM

OK, so an MRI before the cuts showed it wasn't torn and a new MRI shows a tear?

Morton better run on tat until it ruptures. :cuss:

Mr. Laz 09-10-2004 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainCase
OK, so an MRI before the cuts showed it wasn't torn and a new MRI shows a tear?

Morton better run on tat until it ruptures. :cuss:

apparently a "micro tear"


whatever the fuk that is

TRR 09-10-2004 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazarus
apparently a "micro tear"


whatever the fuk that is

I believe it's old and new reports mixed. Vermeil said nothing about it, and I've been listening to 810 all day, and they've said nothing about it. Morton practiced this morning.

htismaqe 09-10-2004 05:57 PM

Stick with it TRR. You're in the right place.

Anybody that thinks we'd be better off heading to Denver with a undrafted rookie over a veteran is on something.

I think Richard Smith has a ton of potential, but I'd really like to start the season 1-0.

TEX 09-10-2004 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe
Stick with it TRR. You're in the right place.

Anybody that thinks we'd be better off heading to Denver with a undrafted rookie over a veteran is on something.

I think Richard Smith has a ton of potential, but I'd really like to start the season 1-0.

Yep. I totally agree.

Hammock Parties 09-10-2004 06:43 PM

Morton's going to light the Donkeys up. :D

RealSNR 09-10-2004 06:59 PM

WTF? I would feel much safer with Morton in the game than a rookie or even Hall.

This offense was clicking with Morton on the field last year. He brings experience, something that Smith doesn't have against a VERY difficult division foe ON THEIR HOME TURF.

Even if Smith did some nice things in the game if he played, he would likely screw a lot of things up as well. That's why Vermeil and Co. have guys like Kennison and Morton in the game and not the young guys everyone loves.

Chiefaholic 09-10-2004 10:29 PM

While I think Smith and possibly Parker will eventually become very good offensive weapons for our ballclub. We need to be realistic and realize this is a pretty complicated offensive scheme. The games they played in preseason was very vanilla scheme that only used a small portion of the playbook. You can't expect a rookie to just come in here, and not only adjust to the speed of the NFL. But, have to learn the entire playbook and run precise routes at the same time. You saw what happened Trent's first season when he had to deal with guys running the wrong direction. I'm sure Al has several plays already drawn up in which we'll see Smith and Parker on the field. However, this offense needs to be running on all cylinders while the defense is learning a different scheme. Expecially if you look at our opponents this year. We have to face some VERY tough defenses this year in which we can ill afford rookies to learn on the fly.

Demonpenz 09-10-2004 10:32 PM

excessive pillowbiting can lead to tears

OldTownChief 09-10-2004 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown
Yes it's a tool for kids who were uber geeks in High School that validates that they became cool in their adulthood.
:) :p

When I was in High School we didn't have video games so all the geeks were on the chess team while the cool people went out for sports. Now all the geeks I run into use terms like "uber geeks"


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