How Many Yards Will Deshaun Foster Rush for Sunday
 

against our defense...



poll forthcoming

Steven davis is out

yeah, so? :shrug:

Foster should see more carries with davis being out

True, I went with 25 for 120.

I'm a blind homer PBJ

what planes are flying overhead at arrowhead, i want to see an f-16 upside down going mach 1

It really hasn't mattered who runs the football against us the last few years. Defensive breakdowns let him go two long runs. Same 'ole, same 'ole.

there is a problem with this poll. Whjat if you believe he will rush for exactly 50, 100, 150, 200, or 250 yards? :shrug:

20 carries for 98 yards. He rushes 15 times in the first half, but since the Panther's are down by 14 at the half so he only gets five carries in the second half.

Oh yeah. Also, Foster will have a big run in the first quarter that will throw us all into dismay, but Gunther will explode and will actually fire up our D. After that Foster will average 3.0 ypc or less for the rest of the game. yes I am a :homer:

Cool. I was waiting for this.

165

steve smith is out too

I think..it's under 100 yards still...their o-line is about brand new.

47 yards in under 20 carries. We will score 14+ on them in a heartbeat, so they will have to throw the ball more often.

yeah, the o-line problems should still limit their success, but our d is not as good as the green bay defense...

so foster should get a little more than davis did (but still under 100 yds)...

under 100 yards panthers will be behind and have to play catch up. panthers 16 chiefs 34

i would of rather seen Stephan davis



Deshaun foster "can be" clinton porter-esque



if we miss a key tackle, he's gone

Foster scares me more than Davis, He can catch bettter, cut better and is faster, so I'm going with 25 carries for 115 yards

You guys are looking at small samples of Foster - 4 carries here, 4 carries there -- when he's backing up Davis AFTER Davis has done the dirty work of softening up the defense.

He's started only 2 games in his career and carried the ball more than 10 times only 5 times.

In those 2 games he started, he had 43 carries for 132 yards (3.1ypc), no TD's and 1 fumble.

In the 5 games where he's carried the ball more than 10 times, he has 86 carries for 306 yards (3.6ypc), no TD's and 2 fumbles.

I drafted him in my fantasy league thinking Stephen Davis is the new Fred Taylor.

He is...

Foster scares me for all the reasons Fanatic listed above. A huge fantasy day is some consolation though... STFU

Foster's career long rush is TWENTY ONE yards.

Foster can't even come back to life

I'd have rather seen Davis too.
Sure Foster has break away speed but he's running into, what better be, a buzz saw. I'd like to think Gunther and the boys were in particularly pissed off mood this week in practice.

The past couple years, KC seems to be able to play just enough D at home to win. Sometimes they even look good.

I've seen worse Chief defenses shut down better backs at home.
If GR could occasionally put lipstick on the pig, I'm sure Gun can pull it off against a beat down Carolina team.

[QUOTE=shakesthecat]I'd have rather seen Davis too.
Sure Foster has break away speed but he's running into, what better be, a buzz saw. I'd like to think Gunther and the boys were in particularly pissed off mood this week in practice.

Yeah just like this offseason after Indy they vowed NEVER AGAIN! They were pissed off all offseason and it served them wonders.

21 yards.

Career long.

Againt our D?? hahah..im sure he wil have a career day! Ill guess 168 yards rushing with 2 TD's. He will have a long run of about 64 yards.

Were they at HOME last week?

Against our D?

He played Indy, Houston (who was WORSE than us), Atlanta, and Detroit, all very bad run defenses.

His longest rush against them was 21 yards.

I realize he's had leg/knee problems since, but he sure had speed when he was at UCLA.

I'm thinking Foster runs for around 75 yards.
KC can't completely shut down anyone, but like Warrior said, I think KC jumps ahead early.

I see him rushing 22 times for about 85 yards.

I guarantee you he will have a "Career day" Our D sucks, everybody knows it and they will run all day long on it.

That's MOHillbilly's department...

I agree, Davis was a little broken down....Brian Shay could run for 100 yards against our pathetic DL...

11 carries for 38 yds. Carolina abandons the run because they find themselves down 28-6 in the third qtr.

Thats the only hope with this D....pray we jump on teams early and kick them why we are down. Its the only way this team can win...If we get in a tight game like last week...we are done.

C'mon, dude! When was the last time we went to Denver and beat their ass there? Our D is going to be fine. They won't be world beaters, but they will be more than servicable.

I'll go with 24 carries for 91 yards, with a run of 40+ thrown in there somewhere.

Kawika Mitchell = Ray Lewis

Deshaun Foster = Donnell Bennett




check and check .... :thumb:

Ive tried all week to remain positive, hell, ive tried for 3 years to do that.....but i see no hope for this D.....two words: NO PLAYMAKERS

Oh, ye of little faith. :shake:

I see you attend the Church of Vlad.

Im coming over to his side more and more everyday....sad to say...

Oh god...id shoot myself! I hate golf....its like right above bowling on the sports scale...LOL

6-10, 8-8, 13-3.

Yep, this is clearly a franchise in decline.

ROFL Clearly.

Not yet...but you know whats gonna happen...we will go anywhere from 10-6 to 12-4. We will make the playoffs based on the strength of our offense....But once we get into the playoffs and have to face a real team we will choke once again......i can see another letdown coming.

Isn't KC in the "show me" state? I want our Defense to "show me". Otherwise I don't believe.

I don't doubt Foster's talent. His line might hold him back though. I think Carolina's D is on par with our O and with injuries their O is equal to our D so I see a close game...high scoring though. I too drafted him in the 12th round expecting a Davis injury. Not this early in the season though. He will sit on my bench behind Dom Davis and LT...primarily because of their O line (3 new starters.)

ouch!

but now that i think of it, you probably have a good point... ROFL ROFL ROFL

fore!!

so which is weaker .. .their O line or our D line?

That doesn't even make any sense.

Let's stick to the facts.

The guy averages 3.3ypc when he starts and has a career long run of 21 yards.

I can't believe people are more worried about a guy who's carried the ball 20 times in a game twice in his career than they are about a guy who's finished in the top 5 in rushing in the NFC almost every season the last 6 seasons or so.

That's almost like thinking that we don't need McCardell because Richard Smith is ready to be a #1 WR.

That one's for you, Laz. ;)

which one ... missed this one

but his career consists of 118 careers... following a big knee injury.



Foster is a slasher, who has more breakaway speed than Davis



pick your poison


our defense has a bad habit of giving up the big play. i would prefer a running back who is less likely to take the big play for 80 yards ... instead of taking it for 15 yrds.


imo Davis is a guy designed for 5-15 yrd runs ... foster has more homerun capability.


his stats are an incomplete sampling due to injury and a short career.

You're a guy that believes that we need McCardell because Smith is unproven, right?

It was a good-natured jab...

Quentin Griffin had carried the ball 20 times in a game twice in his career and had a career YPC average of 3.7 before last week...

I think Foster's a better back than Griffin, nothing to do with stats, just having watched them play. I like Foster's size/speed combo. He better not have more yards than Griffin though, we're playing at home and they have an O-line that hasn't worked together much having to deal with the noise at Arrowhead.

Also... don't forget Foster played very well in the playoffs last year. He rushed 21 times-95 yards against the Rams, 14 rushes, 60 yds against the Eagles, and 3 carries, 43 yds against the Pats in the Super Bowl.

oh ...


actually i'm undecided/indifferent on the McCardell issue


would he be an upgrade? imo he would, but at what cost?


first, we would have to make a trade for him ... enter carl peterson and his chitty negotiation skills. more often than not, we get screwed.

we would prolly pay a uber premium in trade for McCardell

second, we would prolly have to give McCardell a new contract ... enter Carl again ... how nasty would that be?

how much you want to pay for a 32 year old receiver????


IMO we made the decision to not do anything in the offseason so we are probably stuck with the guys we got.


i have a higher opinion of Johnny morton that most around here though too.... so :shrug:

:hmmm:

Not enough carries to make an adequate assessment? That's good enough to explain away Foster's mediocre numbers? Are you sure that's not an excuse?

Foster's rookie season:
zero carries, zero yards, zero rushing TD's, active for ZERO games
Foster's career:
116 carries, 441 yards, zero TD's, 3.8 ypc

The rookie season of the biggest bust in recent Chiefs memory:
20 carries, 85 yards, 1 TD, 4.3 ypc

I sense a double standard here.

I'm sorry but I cannot agree less. Davis has 35 rushes for 20 or more yards, or 2% of his career carries. His career long is 76 yards. Foster has one run of longer than 20 yards in 116 carries, or .9%, and that run was a mere 21 yards. Davis has a 20+ run once in every 49 carries. Foster has a 20+ run once in every 116 carries.

Foster's "homerun capability" up to this point, is non-existent, and as I said before, he's played several bad run defenses, including Indy and Houston, who was WORSE than us last season.

There's that double-standard again.

Griffin started 2 games last year. In one of those starts he rushed for 136 yards and a 4.9 average. He had proven on AT LEAST one occasion that he could actually perform in a situation where he was the #1 starter.

Foster hasn't. I agree, he looks very good on the field. But he's not facing fresh defenses. He's facing guys that have already been subject to Stephen Davis.

With an almost new O-Line. Definitely not the one Stephen Davis ran behind for 1400+ last year.

Also, I want to clarify, just in case anybody is misunderstanding.

I'm NOT saying I'm not worried about Foster. I've seen him play, I think he's got the tools.

I AM saying that I think it's CRAZY to be more worried about him than it is to be worried about a 2-time NFC rushing champ...

it would be a double standard if i was doing what i think your implying


i ASSume your talking about a larry johnson/Foster comparison?



i think you have me confuse with someone else again (apparently like the McCardell deal)


my complaint about Johnson is AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN primarily a complaint about picking a RB, when we didn't need a running back.


we should of pick a defensive player


i didn't say Larry johnson was a bust ... i have said that we may have the best group of running backs in the league. I told you that before.


i dont see a double standard here... i see you getting me confused with someone else's comments about larry johnson.

i think lots of people do that same around here

lazarus = negative ... so revisionists history sooner or later everybody remembers that it was me that said whatever negative comment was made.

i've made no decision about larry johnson's talent ... but i have made a decision that the chiefs picking larry johnson was a bad fuggin pick.


being redundant here to try and get my point across... and see if someone can actually remember it.


larry johnson = possible good RB

chiefs using 1st RD pick on a RB in the 2003 draft = crappy


any questions??

Nope, my bad. I must have confused you with someone else.

That's it. Turn in your rose colored glasses and mail me all your Chiefs gear. I'll PM my address. Just make sure you wash your shit before you box it up.ROFL

In that case, all signs point toward a career afternoon for Foster this Sunday.

*edit* I see that you've covered this territory already. Nevemind. */edit*

Htismaque is right, fellas.

Throw in the fact that the Panthers have no one to stretch the field, unless you count Keary Colbert, and Our Dbs will be playing closer to the line as well.

I'm going to be pissed if Foster goes for over 120 on us.

He won't break 80.

He could run for 400 for all I care as long as we win.

Please don't agree with me. Thanks.

not sure what stats have to do with it....our D usually allows people to have career days.....that's why our defense sucks

ROFL

Marginal improvement, at best...
 

I think we need to take baby steps....I'm less concerned with rushing yards than points...let's hold someone to 21 points, I'd consider that a huge victory (even against a wounded offense)

I want this D to show some spine and shut people down in the red zone....field goals instead of TDs, good coverage on 3rd etc....we need to see some more (well, any) 3-and-outs

ROFL Heaven forbid...

Browning may be an improvement over Holliday. Holliday looked like he was sleep walking against the Donkeys, with the exception of his sack. But he wasn't even blocked on that play.

I really want to see Browning on the outside with Siavii starting next to Sims.

The future is NOW!

Yep...
 

I have zero problem with that.

Question is, what would become of Holliday? Or does any body care?

Depth is good...
 

browning should be a LDE permanently ... but i'll settle for RDE as long as he's on the outside. Browning on 1st and 2nd ... Allen on 3rd down.



i want major beef at Defensive Tackle



Sims and ??? (resign Downing?)

Savaii and dalton

He'll be tending to his groin.

So far this season's poison on defense: Gunther's aggressive style= peaks and valleys. I don't know much about Foster but I say he gets close to a 100. The Panthers will reconstitute their strengths with the Shanarat game plan (WTFN)?



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