The reason why the CHIEFS can't win another Superbowl
 

Is the offence not powerful enough?

No.

Is the defence just not up to snuff?

Believe it, or not - no.

The reason the CHIEFS can not win another Superbowl is because when it comes to a big game, they will never get a fairly officiated outing in the modern day NFL.

Now, of course, many teams have fans that make claims that their beloved team is the victim of bad officiating, but few have witnessed what CHIEFS fans have. Especially in the past decade.

Forget the team's 2004 season opening loss to Denver, or officials being indifferent to the Colts "creative" scrimage tactics last season. This disturbing trend is evident in far more than just one game, or season for that matter.

In the 2003 regular season the CHIEFS lost only three games, and two of those teams didn't even make the playoffs, and the other should have been at home too.
All three games were heavily hyped, on the road, and very very badly officiated.
Touchdowns were given to runningbacks that steped out-of-bounds before breaking the plane, and opposing teams recievers were allowed to push off downfield. Opposing teams offensive lines were allowed to hold, cut block, trip, and avoid penalties for playclock violations. Opposing teams defences were allowed to impede recievers regularly, and in almost every game of the 2003 CHIEFS regular season allowed to interfere.
When one takes a hard look it is actually amazing that the CHIEFS won thirteen of those games.

tehehhe

Also: what is the deal with Tony G. and officials?
 

Is it just me, or does it seem that #88 has been targeted by NFL officials?

I'd expect this from someone from Lee Summit :shake:

Yeah, missing 3 FG's, fumbling the ball on a breakway run, and not being able to force a punt had nothing to do with some of those losses.

Quote:I'd expect this from someone from Lee Summit


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What does this mean?

You can't really argue a loss where we put up three touchdowns and the opposing team put up 45. That's just outplaying.

I mustve stumbled into a Broncos BB by mistake again...

I don't think you can blame officiating. There inlies one faulted member...the Chiefs.

They can only blame themselves.



On the Tony G. post, some friends of mine agree with you. They think the NFL wants the TEs over on those east coast teams (Heap and Shockey) to move past Tony G. because they are in a bigger market. They don't want a star in the midwest. I don't agree, though, but it is kinda fishy I guess.

I blame it on you cracker

You see!!! If I were black, you'd agree with me!! You hate us whites!!!

I have a dream, bitch!!!!!

I blaim the CHIEFS only to a point.
No matter how good a team is, if the officiating is slanted they can not prevail for long.
It takes just one or two bad calls (or even worse: no-calls) to change the complexion of the game.
And I believe we will see more and more examples as this season progresses.

It's because the officials are white isn't it?

ROFL

ROFL

Keeping It Real.

I can't understand why Dick Vermil & Co. don't do more to argue their case in the course of the game.

Last Sunday night the opposition made themselves clear to the refs more than once.

Just before the half I found it a shameful matter in which the officials handled the failure to inforce the penetalty yards on the previous play.

It seemed to this fan that the refs showed no reverence for the defending AFC west champions, and only made any real effort when Green made it an issue.

wow, give it a rest.

ENDelt260


Why the hate?

Kevin Keitzman?

Sorry to discuss these matters on a CHIEFS BB.
I'm not expecting you to wholely agree with my point of view.
If you find my views uninteresting, then why don't you simply look at something else.

I just wish to share my opinion on the problems facing my hometown team, and I do see the current trend in officiating to be a major problem.

Also, why be so confontational?

Wouldn't your large intellect be better used to help me understand the issue I am writing about?

Hey Donkhater get over here. We've got another one.

Is your attitude just for attitudes sake?
I'm confused.
I don't know you, and you don't know me.
How about talking to me instead of at me?

The officiating is a problem.



Just because you don't think so doesn't make it so.

Let me try to help. Supppose I started a thread instisting that the moon were made of swiss cheese. You disagreed with me and called me an idiot. I then asked you to discuss it rationally. What is there to discuss? My idea is far fetched, to say the least. Yet no matter what you say, since I am so committed to my idea, you are unlikely to change my mind.

cdcox



Well at least you are straight forward.

I can understand that some fans might think I am way off base, but I would incourage them to be open minded.

Well, if making me a target helps you feel good about yourself then I guess you have accomplished your trivial ends.
So go ahead and get on with your mean self.

However, the fact still remains that my point is not only valid, but a subject that needs to be addressed by the CHIEFS organization itself.

Untill the CHIEFS tend to this affair it will be a henderance that will continue to haunt them.

NOPE,,,they just suck ROFL

yes that is funny


...in a childish sort of way.


Well,
I have said what needed to be said, and have put a necessary point of view out there.

So I will leave you to your quabbling and bickering now.

There's a proven formula to winning a Super Bowl. Cheat on the salary cap, and then pay $2 million in fines and a couple of mid-round draft picks after the investigation.

Peace.

Now what NFL owner would be stoopid enough to try that? Jerry Bowlen Jr., perhaps? :hmmm:



Nothing worse than a tainted champ.

Thanks to Gaz for the use of the word "tainted".

wow
 

Even though I disagree that the Chiefs are picked on by the officiating. I do think that you're overreacting to the initial post. If you disagree, then say so. Perhaps voice your opinion on WHY you disagree w/o the senseless gradeschool namecalling.

Now, to answer the initial post..... I disagree that the Chiefs are picked on by the officiating. YES, I've seen calls that make you want to jump out of your chair and throw something at the TV. Yet, we catch an occasional break as well (Kennison's down by contact last week comes to mind).

If there's a legit arguement to officiating, there needs to be consistancy from week to week. If a crew or individual ref keeps making game deciding mistakes, then he/they need to be fined, suspended, or just flat out fired. One current example would be the constant flag throwing in preseason on contact after 5 yards and how "the NFL will crack down on the rule this year". Then in week one, Gonzales was mugged damn near every play. Where are the flags? There's no way in hell that the refs never saw it the entire game. If you're going to "crack down on a rule", then you need to be consistant with the playcalling.

Here's a legit arguement for you. You can work it from here....

I'm not too happy with some of the officiating over the years, but I refuse to stoop to the level of a Donkey fan and start crying about how the refs cost us anything. I went to watch our HS team in the State Championship game last year. The refs were blatent in their attempts to keep our team down but they couldn't do it. Great teams rise above the officiating and poor fans blame the officiating.


(Sorry for throwing it back up END, but it was near the top anyway - [edit]Oh, I just noticed that you bumped it seconds before me so never mind;))

You're starting to get pissed about that pizza, aren'tcha?

:)

The reason why the CHIEFS can't win another Superbowl is that they don't score more point than their opponent in the games that they lose.

This thread does not even make sense, the only reason we were in last Sunday night's game was bad officiating.:rolleyes: Against Denver.

Yeah, like KCWolfman trying to change Jaz's mind about Bush. :p

Spraying the uniforms with cooking oil can help too.

I would submit that the only reason we were in last Sunday's game was Jake Plummer.

Hmm... sounds like a...
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Yep. The thing that shocked me was when Trent Green, in the spirit of QB Brotherhoodedness, decided to run backwards for twenty-something yards and get sacked to make Plummer feel better about himself. Now, that's loyalty. Trent's got a good heart. I'll give him that.

Begone, pissant!

:cuss:

The reason the Chiefs can't win another SB is because they have a man in charge of drafting and signing talent who just can't seem to get the right talent in to field a complete team.

Whether that's poor talent evaluation, frugality, or allowing the coaches to yield to much sway in the decision making process, he just hasn't gotten it done.

It started out as a 5 year plan.
It has now become the never ending plan.

I'm trying to give you a rival fan to hate on because this "Chiefs_Fan_n_64081" sounds like a real dipshit.

ROFL

Thanks, bro! I knew somebody would step up! :thumb:

I can't believe I even read this thread- the pure incapacity of this thread is to a lesser degree than the total value of an entire Jerry Springer show.

Spend a little more time watching the game on the field instead of the cheerleaders on the sidelines, and you might learn something.

Hell, if he spent any time watching the cheerleaders, he wouldn't be complaining about the officiating.

Uhhh...that was the Canadian Club talking. :banghead:

I don't even understand what I was saying anymore...time for another drink

I thought it was ky jelly to lube up pussies.

While I would say the Chiefs get their fair share of bad calls against them, I would not agree its because of any bias. I would say bad calls are the result of bad refereeing.
The only possible bias I could see against the Chiefs would be a bias against Vermeil by officials. He can come off whiney in press conferences and I'm sure he comes off that way the officials as well. If he mentions before the game of how often Gonzo gets held every game, they will start watching it and call Gonzo for pushing off every time he does it. Officials are human, bitch and moan to them all the time and they are not going to react positively to you. If you complain all the time, they will have no sympathy. Hold your criticism until a critical time then the referees might consider that the coach doesn't complain that much so there may be something to it.

:thumb:

Bad calls are part of the game - every team gets them. However, not every team has the worst defense in the league over the past 3 years, has the cap room, and does nothing to upgrade the defensive talent. To me that's more of the reason then bad calls. Just my take...

Is this thread over yet?