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tk13 03-01-2021 08:25 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Steve Stewart said he&#39;s never seen a ball hit further at Goodyear Ballpark than this blast from Seuly Matias. Steve Physioc estimated it at 450 feet. (video courtesy of <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Royals</a>) <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> <a href="https://t.co/GgXhnRpPOg">pic.twitter.com/GgXhnRpPOg</a></p>&mdash; Josh Vernier (@JoshVernier610) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshVernier610/status/1366545736423272450?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

dallaschiefsfan 03-01-2021 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15568531)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Steve Stewart said he&#39;s never seen a ball hit further at Goodyear Ballpark than this blast from Seuly Matias. Steve Physioc estimated it at 450 feet. (video courtesy of <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Royals</a>) <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> <a href="https://t.co/GgXhnRpPOg">pic.twitter.com/GgXhnRpPOg</a></p>&mdash; Josh Vernier (@JoshVernier610) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshVernier610/status/1366545736423272450?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Would be really nice to see him realize his potential.

Ocotillo 03-01-2021 09:36 PM

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Would be really nice to see him realize his potential.

It's hard to see him becoming viable in the majors with contact rates of 48%, 61% and 58%. I've given up on him even as young and toolsy as he is.

KChiefs1 03-02-2021 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15567299)
Got to love strange spring training rules. We had bases loaded with Santana up and Texas just said they were done for the inning, pitch count too high lol.

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tk13 03-02-2021 07:06 PM

Well, well.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: Jarrod Dyson in agreement with the Kansas City Royals.</p>&mdash; Robert Murray (@ByRobertMurray) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByRobertMurray/status/1366914922869850115?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

dallaschiefsfan 03-02-2021 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15569721)
Well, well.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: Jarrod Dyson in agreement with the Kansas City Royals.</p>&mdash; Robert Murray (@ByRobertMurray) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByRobertMurray/status/1366914922869850115?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

We really are getting the band back together.

cosmo20002 03-02-2021 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15569721)
Well, well.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: Jarrod Dyson in agreement with the Kansas City Royals.</p>&mdash; Robert Murray (@ByRobertMurray) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByRobertMurray/status/1366914922869850115?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Loved him, but this seems weird.

Titty Meat 03-02-2021 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15569721)
Well, well.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: Jarrod Dyson in agreement with the Kansas City Royals.</p>&mdash; Robert Murray (@ByRobertMurray) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByRobertMurray/status/1366914922869850115?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They need to let 2015 go

Chiefspants 03-02-2021 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15569897)
They need to let 2015 go

You are a fan of a college football team that still thinks it is the 20th century.

KChiefs1 03-03-2021 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15569897)
They need to let 2015 go

Shouldn't Nebraska let go of the 1990's too?

KChiefs1 03-03-2021 09:17 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m shifting into a new role, covering the 2014-2015 Kansas City Royals for The Athletic. <a href="https://t.co/GH0lpnDtdc">https://t.co/GH0lpnDtdc</a></p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@ByMcCullough) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByMcCullough/status/1366764146910367749?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KChiefs1 03-03-2021 09:20 AM

The "new" Mel Stottlemyre.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NEW — Brad Keller might be the “most interesting pitcher in the world.”<br><br>At least, that’s how a foremost expert on a baseball’s aerodynamics feels.<br><br>Here’s the backstory:<a href="https://t.co/i0vNMCqhxM">https://t.co/i0vNMCqhxM</a></p>&mdash; Alec Lewis (@alec_lewis) <a href="https://twitter.com/alec_lewis/status/1367130430818820097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KChiefs1 03-03-2021 09:32 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Introducing the 2021 class of eligible players for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> Hall of Fame. <br><br>Cast your vote. ⬇️</p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1366795436049063939?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BigCatDaddy 03-03-2021 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15570264)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Introducing the 2021 class of eligible players for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> Hall of Fame. <br><br>Cast your vote. ⬇️</p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1366795436049063939?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Butler
Beltran
Damon

KChiefs1 03-03-2021 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 15570273)
Butler
Beltran
Damon

I voted Billy Butler even though Beltran & Damon were better players.

KChiefs1 03-03-2021 09:52 AM

Keith Law's new rankings.

https://theathletic.com/2420975/2021...ith-laws-list/

2021 MLB draft prospect rankings: Vanderbilt’s Jack Leiter, Kumar Rocker top Keith Law’s list

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1. Jack Leiter, RHP, Vanderbilt

Leiter is an age-eligible sophomore, and while he may not be the Commodores’ most famous starter right now, he’s their best prospect, with the best combination of stuff, command, and delivery in the draft. Leiter can pitch at 95-96 mph and hit his spots even at that velocity, with a plus breaking ball and a delivery he repeats very well to keep that command long-term. His father (Al), uncle (Mark), and cousin (Mark Jr.) all pitched in the majors, and he has the track record — Jack was a first-round talent in 2019 out of high school — to give teams the extra comfort level they want when taking someone this high in the draft.

3. Kumar Rocker, RHP, Vanderbilt

The Commodores could very easily have two guys go in the top three picks in the draft, or even 1-2, with Leiter and Rocker. Rocker might be more famous, having thrown a no-hitter in the postseason two years ago and a fastball that’s been up to 99 mph, but he does suffer slightly in comparison to Leiter, with the inferior breaking ball and a grade less command. Rocker is 6-foot-5, 245, with plenty of athleticism (his father, Tracy Rocker, played two seasons in the NFL), but the fastball is really his main weapon, and he could use a plus secondary pitch and/or better movement on the fastball to go before his teammate.

KChiefs1 03-03-2021 09:57 AM

https://theathletic.com/2411534/2021...ox-jim-bowden/

MLB offseason grades for all 30 teams: Padres and Blue Jays ace it, Red Sox sputter, White Sox primed
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Jim Bowden

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Kansas City Royals
Grade: B


Trades: Acquired OF Andrew Benintendi from Red Sox, trading OF Khalil Lee to Mets and two PTBNL to Red Sox in a three-way deal
Free agents: LHP Mike Minor, 2 years/$18 million; 1B/DH Carlos Santana 2 years/$17.5 million; CF Michael A. Taylor, 1 year/$1.75 million; RHP Greg Holland, 1 year/$2.75 million

The Royals did an impressive job of improving their lineup, highlighted by the signing of free-agent first baseman Carlos Santana and the trade for outfielder Andrew Benintendi. Santana is a much-needed bat for the middle of the order, and his ability to work a count and draw walks will be a helpful influence as the young Royals hitters develop. But the Royals’ best move of the offseason was landing Benintendi, 26, who profiles as a 20 home run, 20 stolen base, above-average defensive left fielder when he’s fully developed. They added free agent Michael A. Taylor to play center field. He’s an above-average defender who has power and speed but also a high strikeout rate that’s not going away.

The Royals also did an excellent job of acquiring veteran pitchers Mike Minor, Greg Holland and Wade Davis on club-friendly contracts. All three should contribute. With a young, developing rotation and the additions they made this offseason, don’t be surprised if the Royals finish in third place in the AL Central, ahead of the Indians. To cap things off, earlier this week the Royals agreed to a four-year extension with third baseman Hunter Dozier.

Archie Bunker 03-03-2021 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15570264)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Introducing the 2021 class of eligible players for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> Hall of Fame. <br><br>Cast your vote. ⬇️</p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1366795436049063939?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ventura only.

PHOG 03-03-2021 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 15570401)
Ventura only.

Same here.

tk13 03-03-2021 12:32 PM

Butler's top 10 in Royals history for hits, doubles, HRs, RBI, etc. He played on a World Series team. I think he's got a shot eventually.

Funny thing is he hasn't played baseball in 5 years and he's still younger than our current 1B. I think that seems to hurt his image a bit. But if you look solely at his overall numbers in Royals history he's up there.

Beltran has the name value. He's certainly one of the most talented players in team history and he put up big numbers over several years. He's still in the top 10 for WAR in Royals history. Where Damon really didn't click until his last couple years in KC, and he went on to win titles in his prime with other teams.

CasselGotPeedOn 03-03-2021 01:06 PM

If Hiram doesn't make it, I'm out.

wazu 03-03-2021 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 15570401)
Ventura only.

Agreed, although I'd be okay with Butler. Hell no to Beltran/Damon.

Titty Meat 03-03-2021 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15570229)
Shouldn't Nebraska let go of the 1990's too?

Absolutely

BWillie 03-03-2021 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sweendog48 (Post 15568476)
Suely Matias hit a ball today that was estimated at 500 feet. I want to see the video, but they said it destroyed a palm tree out beyond the bullpen, Matheny said its the farthest he has ever seen a ball hit, he thought it was over 500.

The next great Royals .175 hitter.

BWillie 03-03-2021 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15569721)
Well, well.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: Jarrod Dyson in agreement with the Kansas City Royals.</p>&mdash; Robert Murray (@ByRobertMurray) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByRobertMurray/status/1366914922869850115?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hey might as well sign Billy Butler. He's only 34, younger than all of our Santanas. He's just been hanging out getting fat in Montana playing beer league softball. He was their MVP last year.

DJJasonp 03-03-2021 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15570264)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Introducing the 2021 class of eligible players for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> Hall of Fame. <br><br>Cast your vote. ⬇️</p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1366795436049063939?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

those uniforms that Beltran has in this pic were, and still are, hideous.

louie aguiar 03-03-2021 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 15570590)
those uniforms that Beltran has in this pic were, and still are, hideous.

I always hated the vest-top phase in baseball uniforms. I'm glad those are gone.

TLO 03-03-2021 02:18 PM

Kyle Davies? KYLE DAVIES??????

TomBarndtsTwin 03-03-2021 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 15570627)
Kyle Davies? KYLE DAVIES??????

No shit.

Who put HIS name on the list . . . . . . . ?

duncan_idaho 03-03-2021 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 15570767)
No shit.

Who put HIS name on the list . . . . . . . ?

Dayton Moore. Duh.

PurpleJesus28 03-03-2021 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 15570627)
Kyle Davies? KYLE DAVIES??????

Was watching the Cubs - Mariners game and there was a pitcher with last name Davies.Was thinking the Royals had a pitcher with that name.But yeah,i don't remember him being very good,let alone in the Royals HOF.

Coach 03-03-2021 05:42 PM

At least they didn't put Luis Mendoza.

Dartgod 03-03-2021 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15570264)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Introducing the 2021 class of eligible players for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> Hall of Fame. <br><br>Cast your vote. ⬇️</p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1366795436049063939?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Kyle Davies

ROFL ROFL ROFL

Chris Meck 03-04-2021 09:52 AM

other than Ventura, I wouldn't put any of them in.

Damon and Beltran were great elsewhere, after leaving because we couldn't pay them. Why do we want to enshrine that?

none of the rest of those guys were exceptional players.

KChiefs1 03-04-2021 10:06 AM

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Bearcat 03-04-2021 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15571535)
other than Ventura, I wouldn't put any of them in.

Damon and Beltran were great elsewhere, after leaving because we couldn't pay them. Why do we want to enshrine that?

none of the rest of those guys were exceptional players.

6-7 years just isn't very long for a team's HOF, IMO (not including Ventura, of course).

On a separate note, when confirming how long Damon was with the Royals, noticed he recently got a DUI with a BAC higher than his career batting average. :eek:

gblowfish 03-04-2021 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15571535)
other than Ventura, I wouldn't put any of them in.
none of the rest of those guys were exceptional players.

Nobody has warning track power like Country Breakfast!

dlphg9 03-05-2021 03:24 AM

Holy shit Kyle Davies. Didn't he hold like a pretty major record for shittiness or close to a record. Only person I for sure would put in is Ventura and maybe Billy Butler. If he just stays 1 year longer, then he for sure gets to be on it.

Why Not? 03-05-2021 06:32 AM

Ace- In for sure.

Hochevar- Love his redemption story in going from a bust to a solid, if not dominant, part of that great championship run bullpen. But probably had to short of a good run to be HOF material. But I wouldn’t hate it if he got in.

Breakfast- Was the only Royal who looked like he belonged in the major leagues for a few years there (not physically. Lol). But ultimately only did one thing well and not for a lengthy enough period of time.

Guthrie- If there was a section for awesome teammate/cheerleader/great post season pressers, he would walk in.

Davies- bahahahahaha

Beltran/Damon- WTF?

AJKCFAN 03-05-2021 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 15572958)
Ace- In for sure.

Hochevar- Love his redemption story in going from a bust to a solid, if not dominant, part of that great championship run bullpen. But probably had to short of a good run to be HOF material. But I wouldn’t hate it if he got in.

Breakfast- Was the only Royal who looked like he belonged in the major leagues for a few years there (not physically. Lol). But ultimately only did one thing well and not for a lengthy enough period of time.

Guthrie- If there was a section for awesome teammate/cheerleader/great post season pressers, he would walk in.

Davies- bahahahahaha

Beltran/Damon- WTF?

Especially for a team like the Royals when it’s going to be more difficult than normal to keep guys here long term, there is a thing to be said about longevity that should work in the players favor if the numbers are close.

So that will ultimately mean Butler is getting in and probably this year

Hochevar and Guthrie won’t make it on first try but it’s conceivable they get in at some point. If Guthrie had won Game 7, he’d be a lock.

Ventura is getting in, lack of longevity aside.

Beltran is going to make it. Maybe not this year but won’t be surprising if that is so.

He’s definitely in before Damon

Damon has a chance someday to make it but not before or at same time as Beltran

Davies - wow. No

My Ballot

Ventura - yes
Butler - yes
Beltran - on the fence, hard pass
Hochevar - not yet
Guthrie - not yet
Damon - not yet
Davies - not even close

Chiefspants 03-05-2021 07:45 AM

If anyone could get into the HOF for a single postseason performance alone, it’s Hoch. He had what, 10.2 innings and zero earned runs? Might not have won G2 of the ALCS and G4 and G5 of the WS without him. Dude was just utter nails.

Why Not? 03-05-2021 07:47 AM

Maybe my WTF for Beltran was a bit harsh. He was pretty damn good for KC. But still, no one outside of us remembers him as a Royal and he was here so long ago, just still would seem weird to throw him in the HOF.

AJKCFAN 03-05-2021 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15573004)
If anyone could get into the HOF for a single postseason performance alone, it’s Hoch. He had what, 10.2 innings and zero earned runs? Might not have won G2 of the ALCS and G4 and G5 of the WS without him. Dude was just utter nails.

Oh he definitely was and yes G2 ALCS working out of that jam against the Jays is criminally overlooked - he kept them in that game to enable the comeback to be possible. As an aside, G2 2015 ALCS might be the most underrated great Royals win from that postseason. That was unbelievable!

Hochevar also had a tremendous 2013 season - if not for TJ surgery, he’s in the pen for 2014 (but also that would have meant Wade’s transition from starter to reliever is either delayed substantially or might not have even occurred at all)

Still if hindsight is 20-20 and Hochevar is not hurt at all and Royals still put Wade in pen regardless, boy what I would give to get us back to G4 WS with 4-1 lead T4, PH for Vargas and just let it ride with Luke and then onto HDH for 18 outs and get a stranglehold on that series and close them out in 6 at the K....

KChiefs1 03-05-2021 09:31 AM

I know people still talk about sending Gordon home in the 9th inning of game 7 in 2014, but the thing I always bring up is wishing that Ned had only let Guthrie go the first 3 innings & then turned it over to HDH to pitch from there on out in game 7 of the 2014 WS.

The game would have been tied at 2 going into the 10th inning.
MadBum vs the Royals bullpen.

Prison Bitch 03-05-2021 09:39 AM

WTF would anyone vote for Ventura?

He played two seasons.

Yeah he died. And?

Chiefspants 03-05-2021 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15573106)
WTF would anyone vote for Ventura?

He played two seasons.

Yeah he died. And?

Game 2 of the 2014 ALDS, Games 2 & 6 of the 2014 WS, and Game 6 of the 2015 ALCS come to mind. Similar argument to Hoch really (postseason glory/success). Ventura was a big part of why we made it to the postseason in 2014 which is another argument in his favor.

Is Joe Delaney in the Chiefs Ring of Honor? Unsure if he is or not, but similar thought process there, I think.

Chiefspants 03-05-2021 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by AJKCFAN (Post 15573019)
Oh he definitely was and yes G2 ALCS working out of that jam against the Jays is criminally overlooked - he kept them in that game to enable the comeback to be possible. As an aside, G2 2015 ALCS might be the most underrated great Royals win from that postseason. That was unbelievable!

Completely agreed. I’m also a bit partial to that game, as it was the 2015 postseason game I was able to attend. Prices crashed from $400+ to $100 the morning of the game and I cancelled a required university exam I needed to take and went with my friends spur of the moment. Will forever remember being in a stairwell with 20+ other royals fans by the HOF during the comeback and the mass group hugs that followed. Agreed about Hoch’s dominance in 2013, too. He seemed to be finally finding his role on the team.


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Still if hindsight is 20-20 and Hochevar is not hurt at all and Royals still put Wade in pen regardless, boy what I would give to get us back to G4 WS with 4-1 lead T4, PH for Vargas and just let it ride with Luke and then onto HDH for 18 outs and get a stranglehold on that series and close them out in 6 at the K....
I tell myself at the very least that Ned seemed to learn from not managing 2014 G4 like a Game 7. Flash forward to G4 in 2015 and Ned was much more aggressive to pull Young (who hadn’t run into the trouble Vargas had) to get to the Royals bullpen early. Despite the Royals being down, it always felt good to be in a bullpen battle with the 2015 Royals pen if you were only down by a run or two.

BWillie 03-05-2021 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 15572958)
Ace- In for sure.

Hochevar- Love his redemption story in going from a bust to a solid, if not dominant, part of that great championship run bullpen. But probably had to short of a good run to be HOF material. But I wouldn’t hate it if he got in.

Breakfast- Was the only Royal who looked like he belonged in the major leagues for a few years there (not physically. Lol). But ultimately only did one thing well and not for a lengthy enough period of time.

Guthrie- If there was a section for awesome teammate/cheerleader/great post season pressers, he would walk in.

Davies- bahahahahaha

Beltran/Damon- WTF?

The last I heard Kyle Davies was working for his brothers construction company in Florida.

So perplexing why they put him on the list. It's almost like they don't like him and they are trolling him. He was one of the Royal's worst starting pitchers ever in the last 10 years.

Chiefspants 03-05-2021 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15573350)
The last I heard Kyle Davies was working for his brothers construction company in Florida.

So perplexing why they put him on the list. It's almost like they don't like him and they are trolling him. He was one of the Royal's worst starting pitchers ever in the last 10 years.

Dayton Moore legitimately seemed to love him and it seemed to break his heart when he finally had to cut ties after a DUI(?)

Prison Bitch 03-05-2021 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15573118)
Is Joe Delaney in the Chiefs Ring of Honor? Unsure if he is or not, but similar thought process there, I think.


Tell me the similarities of their deaths.

Chiefspants 03-05-2021 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15573392)
Tell me the similarities of their deaths.

Wildly different circumstances. I just took your question to mean that we should stay focused on their efforts on the field and asked about Joe wondering if there was a soft precedent when a career is cut short due to tragic circumstances like that.

KChiefs1 03-05-2021 02:06 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mondi makes his spring debut today vs. the Dodgers on ESPN.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RoyalsST?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RoyalsST</a> <a href="https://t.co/NXLe8G3zPP">pic.twitter.com/NXLe8G3zPP</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1367865943653715971?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bob Dole 03-05-2021 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15573118)
Game 2 of the 2014 ALDS, Games 2 & 6 of the 2014 WS, and Game 6 of the 2015 ALCS come to mind. Similar argument to Hoch really (postseason glory/success). Ventura was a big part of why we made it to the postseason in 2014 which is another argument in his favor.

Is Joe Delaney in the Chiefs Ring of Honor? Unsure if he is or not, but similar thought process there, I think.

Joe is, mostly due to the efforts of people here.

Chiefspants 03-05-2021 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 15573621)
Joe is, mostly due to the efforts of people here.

That’s awesome. This place has helped spur some pretty incredible changes at Arrowhead.

tk13 03-05-2021 05:23 PM

Nick Pratto seems to be having a good spring so far.

Deberg_1990 03-05-2021 05:30 PM

Beltran and Damon were the only reason to watch the Royals in the late 90s early 2000s.

So yes.

DaneMcCloud 03-05-2021 05:39 PM

This is just my opinion of course but there's no way I'd put Beltran in the Royals HOF due to his blatant cheating in Houston.

He does not belong in the same breath as George Brett, Paul Splittorff, Fred Patek and all of the Royals greats from the past.

Deberg_1990 03-05-2021 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15573716)
This is just my opinion of course but there's no way I'd put Beltran in the Royals HOF due to his blatant cheating in Houston.

He does not belong in the same breath as George Brett, Paul Splittorff, Fred Patek and all of the Royals greats from the past.

Good point. Forgot about that. I would have to agree

Why Not? 03-05-2021 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15573716)
This is just my opinion of course but there's no way I'd put Beltran in the Royals HOF due to his blatant cheating in Houston.

He does not belong in the same breath as George Brett, Paul Splittorff, Fred Patek and all of the Royals greats from the past.

You know what? I agree. I’m reinstating my WTF in regards to Beltran.

dlphg9 03-05-2021 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15573716)
This is just my opinion of course but there's no way I'd put Beltran in the Royals HOF due to his blatant cheating in Houston.

He does not belong in the same breath as George Brett, Paul Splittorff, Fred Patek and all of the Royals greats from the past.

Yeah, Beltran can **** right off too. Didn't we go after him in FA pretty hard when we were contenders? I wanna say that he accepted a lower offer from someone else or something like that.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 03-05-2021 06:36 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rev it up.<br><br>We have signed OF Jarrod Dyson to a one-year Major League contract. <a href="https://t.co/xtO4pm8Z3e">pic.twitter.com/xtO4pm8Z3e</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1367990009962266624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BWillie 03-05-2021 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15573747)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rev it up.<br><br>We have signed OF Jarrod Dyson to a one-year Major League contract. <a href="https://t.co/xtO4pm8Z3e">pic.twitter.com/xtO4pm8Z3e</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1367990009962266624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Total facepalm.

Bob Dole 03-06-2021 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15573707)
Beltran and Damon were the only reason to watch the Royals in the late 90s early 2000s.

So yes.

And then bailed for the cash. **** them both.

duncan_idaho 03-06-2021 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 15573972)
And then bailed for the cash. **** them both.


No, **** Dan Glass.

Beltran was willing to do an extension and then Glass threw a fit when Beltran’s agent requested $1M more/season.

KChiefs1 03-06-2021 04:33 PM

Mike Minor & Bobby Witt Jr had good games today.

poolboy 03-06-2021 04:41 PM

They need to find a spot for Witt Jr...its time

duncan_idaho 03-06-2021 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 15574442)
They need to find a spot for Witt Jr...its time

Yeah... no.

He's close and might actually be up this season... but the guy hasn't even played full season minor league ball yet. They need to test him in the minors a bit first.

Starting him at AA would be an aggressive move, but I could see it based on his performances at major league camp last year and this spring.

Chris Meck 03-06-2021 05:18 PM

I don't want to put anybody in from the shitty years when we had to let everyone good go because we couldn't afford them.

None of these guys were great Royals.

Ventura I put in because he died young.

The rest of them? Nope. You don't get claimed here when you went and took the big money elsewhere.

If you won a WS here, then we can talk about it.

poolboy 03-06-2021 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15574478)
Yeah... no.

He's close and might actually be up this season... but the guy hasn't even played full season minor league ball yet. They need to test him in the minors a bit first.

Starting him at AA would be an aggressive move, but I could see it based on his performances at major league camp last year and this spring.

I just think he could give is some early punch vs Lopez

dlphg9 03-07-2021 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15574478)
Yeah... no.

He's close and might actually be up this season... but the guy hasn't even played full season minor league ball yet. They need to test him in the minors a bit first.

Starting him at AA would be an aggressive move, but I could see it based on his performances at major league camp last year and this spring.

I'm usually a "bring em on up" guy, but no way in hell should Witt Jr. be on the opening day roster. If he smashes for a few months at AA, then I'd bring him up.

KChiefs1 03-07-2021 03:29 PM

Padres announcers are awful.

tk13 03-07-2021 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15575301)
Padres announcers are awful.

Don Orsillo might be the most popular local play by play guy in the game. Their announcers were literally ranked first when they did a poll of baseball fans a couple years ago.

KChiefs1 03-07-2021 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15575336)
Don Orsillo might be the most popular local play by play guy in the game. Their announcers were literally ranked first when they did a poll of baseball fans a couple years ago.


Good for them.

KChiefs1 03-07-2021 04:22 PM

Taylor with a bomb.

sweendog48 03-07-2021 05:23 PM

3 observations from the game today.

1. Padres announcers have to be the two biggest annoying goons I have ever heard in my life, my God, you talk about a couple of drips,dorks, saps. next time they are on I am muting the sound.

2. Carlos Hernandez was filthy, he is not far away from being a dominant bullpen guy, 98-100 with a filthy breaking ball he was unhitable except the mistake to Hosmer which the ball was placed belt high and away which is the only place he can drive a ball, that was major league closer stuff. I wish the game would have been on tv yesterday, it sounds like Austin cox and Johnathan Bowlan were nasty as well both striking out the side. So far the guys not named Lynch, Kowar and Bubic are the ones who are shining bright.

3. the hitting looks the same as the last 3 years, they cannot hit with men on base or in scoring position, bases loaded no outs, don't score, base loaded 1 out, don't score, 2 on no outs don't score, runner at second no outs don't score, 9 guys stranded through 5 innings, same old shit. Taylor has been impressive so far, that would be huge for the bottom of the lineup if he can swing the bat the way he is and play premium defense.

eDave 03-07-2021 05:28 PM

Trying to get to a game is proving to be impossible. It already nearly was before Covid. No bueno now. 20% max capacity.

lewdog 03-07-2021 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15575419)
Trying to get to a game is proving to be impossible. It already nearly was before Covid. No bueno now. 20% max capacity.

Yup.

And those buying tickets and selling secondary are asking for 2-3x the price. No thanks.

eDave 03-07-2021 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15575423)
Yup.

And those buying tickets and selling secondary are asking for 2-3x the price. No thanks.

That's not much worse than pre-covid. But at least then it was full, and fun, and full of hot AZ chicks. God damn! Such a great social scene rivaled only by the WM Open. Sucks man. Sucks bad.

Bob Dole 03-07-2021 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15573985)
No, **** Dan Glass.

Beltran was willing to do an extension and then Glass threw a fit when Beltran’s agent requested $1M more/season.

I don’t remember details. I just remember being the NY and Boston farm club.

ChiefsCountry 03-07-2021 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 15575497)
I don’t remember details. I just remember being the NY and Boston farm club.

Actually you mean Oakland and Houston because that who we did the deals with for Dye, Damon and Beltran.


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