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jd1020 11-30-2021 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15983398)
You could argue parity is bad for business. MLB problem is it's hard to market stars. Even a casual fan can watch an NBA and NFL game and the stars explode from the screen, especially in NBA. You can see the difference between Patrick Mahomes & someone like Taylor Heineke. It's like night and day.
That's your example?

A casual fan probably doesn't even know who the **** Taylor Heineke is. Thats like saying a casual baseball fan can tell the difference between Max Scherzer and Will Crowe.

ChiefsCountry 11-30-2021 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 15983331)
I also would argue MLB doesn’t have significantly more parity than the NBA.
8 different World Series champs in 8 years. :rolleyes:

ChiefsCountry 11-30-2021 01:00 PM
Last 8 years in the NBA - Curry 3, LeBron 2, Kawai 2, Greek Freak 1

Last 8 years in the AFC - Brady 4, Manning 2, Mahomes 2

Lots of parity in the salary cap leagues where a superstar player in the NBA is the difference and a franchise QB means everything

BWillie 11-30-2021 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 15983412)
That's your example?

A casual fan probably doesn't even know who the **** Taylor Heineke is. Thats like saying a casual baseball fan can tell the difference between Max Scherzer and Will Crowe.
On a given day you can't tell the difference between Mike Trout or a guy like Brett Phillips. That is everyday in MLB. You can watch one NBA game and know Giannis or Joel Embiid are freaks and Georges Niang not so much.

jd1020 11-30-2021 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15983440)
On a given day you can't tell the difference between Mike Trout or a guy like Brett Phillips. That is everyday in MLB. You can watch one NBA game and know Giannis or Joel Embiid are freaks and Georges Niang not so much.
What happens if the one game I watched is the one that Embiid scored 14 points?

And if you are talking marketing, being a non basketball fan, I wouldn't even know who the **** Embiid was if I didn't have 4 friends that were 76ers fans.

Mecca 11-30-2021 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15983161)
I think it's a huge waste to not play him and Perez in full-time roles.

I don't really care what that looks like. If it was me, I'd play whichever one was my best defender 100 games behind the plate. That's likely Perez.

I'd then DH Perez for 50 games or so.

That leaves me 60 games behind the dish for Melendez and 90 games to find him playing time somewhere else.

He's athletic enough to play 3B and LF and actually be a plus player at both (especially 3B, which is an important defensive position). If he hits like expected, the ability to always have a plus, middle-of-the-order bat at C is a major benefit to lineup construction.

You keep Perez fresh and get the best version of him. You have generally plus defense at C. You have league-best offense at the C spot. You get 45 games of plus D at 3B with a plus bat and 45 games of average D with an average bat for the position.

I'm anxious to see how much contact Melendez and Pratto make at the highest level. I am more optimistic about Melendez but still suspect we'll be happy if he's a .260 hitter (with a .340 or so OBP and .500+ SLG).
It's really frustrating how so many people want to trade Melendez. I've literally seen reasoning like *Perez is going to refuse to not catch 130 games so Melendez has no spot."

It's just dumb.

duncan_idaho 11-30-2021 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15983516)
It's really frustrating how so many people want to trade Melendez. I've literally seen reasoning like *Perez is going to refuse to not catch 130 games so Melendez has no spot."

It's just dumb.
Oh, it's absolutely stupid.

It's the dumbest thing possible.

Melendez is the most valuable guy out of all their position prospects, by far, and his offensive profile is the most likely to translate well to the majors.

poolboy 11-30-2021 03:16 PM
They will find a spot for him, he may have to move around some at first

unless some body blows us away with a pitching offer. Good Catchers are a premium commodity right now

Mama Hip Rockets 11-30-2021 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 15983455)
What happens if the one game I watched is the one that Embiid scored 14 points?

And if you are talking marketing, being a non basketball fan, I wouldn't even know who the **** Embiid was if I didn't have 4 friends that were 76ers fans.
I don't watch basketball at all or know any 76ers fans, and I know who Embiid is.

dallaschiefsfan 11-30-2021 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mama Hip Rockets (Post 15983811)
I don't watch basketball at all or know any 76ers fans, and I know who Embiid is.
That may be true...but I fit your profile and have no clue who Embiid is and have nearly no friends or work acquaintances that talk about the NBA. The local news makes a big to-do about the Mavs...but I just don't know many people that wear Mavs gear, etc. Plenty of Cowgirl and Rangers gear. I know it's a popular take to think the NBA is about to overtake MLB, but people have been trying to bury MLB for years - first with Soccer (ha!) and now with the NBA. MLB has not been top dog for quite a while...but it's firmly #2. With as many games as they play each year, it's really astonishing how many people attend per night for any given team.

MLB's meta-problem has always been the same in terms of common sense solutions for improving the game - individual teams are far more important to the owners than the MLB brand. In other sports, there's significantly more loyalty to their sport/league.

dlphg9 11-30-2021 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 15984213)
That may be true...but I fit your profile and have no clue who Embiid is and have nearly no friends or work acquaintances that talk about the NBA. The local news makes a big to-do about the Mavs...but I just don't know many people that wear Mavs gear, etc. Plenty of Cowgirl and Rangers gear. I know it's a popular take to think the NBA is about to overtake MLB, but people have been trying to bury MLB for years - first with Soccer (ha!) and now with the NBA. MLB has not been top dog for quite a while...but it's firmly #2. With as many games as they play each year, it's really astonishing how many people attend per night for any given team.

MLB's meta-problem has always been the same in terms of common sense solutions for improving the game - individual teams are far more important to the owners than the MLB brand. In other sports, there's significantly more loyalty to their sport/league.
I'm not an NBA fan, cuz I don't have a team, but NBA is way more popular than MLB. If KC had an NBA team, the NBA team would have more people per game then the Royals. It's NFL NBA MLB

jd1020 11-30-2021 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15984224)
but NBA is way more popular than MLB.
Is that why game 6 of the NBA finals drew 12M viewers and game 6 of the MLB WS drew 14M? The NBA finals as a whole averaged 9.91M viewers vs 11.75M viewers for the WS. A way more popular sport couldn't beat the viewership of little ol' baseball when 50% of the WS included probably the most hated team in the sport right now.

dallaschiefsfan 11-30-2021 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15984224)
I'm not an NBA fan, cuz I don't have a team, but NBA is way more popular than MLB. If KC had an NBA team, the NBA team would have more people per game then the Royals. It's NFL NBA MLB
According to what measure???

ChiefsCountry 11-30-2021 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15984224)
I'm not an NBA fan, cuz I don't have a team, but NBA is way more popular than MLB. If KC had an NBA team, the NBA team would have more people per game then the Royals. It's NFL NBA MLB
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Baseball dominates primetime viewership night after night for six months in every major American city, and has the #2 championship event in pro sports which outdraws everything on television but the NFL. Seems pretty healthy to me.</p>&mdash; Michael Mulvihill (@mulvihill79) <a href="https://twitter.com/mulvihill79/status/1456044413566656515?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Once again, as it has for years, the World Series easily outdrew every non-NFL program in television, beating the top-rated weekly primetime show by &gt;20% in total viewership. <a href="https://t.co/WV5jd3oukC">https://t.co/WV5jd3oukC</a></p>&mdash; Michael Mulvihill (@mulvihill79) <a href="https://twitter.com/mulvihill79/status/1456043498973511682?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

dallaschiefsfan 11-30-2021 10:01 PM
Dick Lovelady non-tendered. In other news, Ryan O'Hearn NOT non-tendered.

Mecca 11-30-2021 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 15984270)
Dick Lovelady non-tendered. In other news, Ryan O'Hearn NOT non-tendered.
NOOOOO

what the **** is this teams obsession with this guy.

WhawhaWhat 12-01-2021 09:04 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Feelin the love this morning! <a href="https://t.co/fpZro7kJna">pic.twitter.com/fpZro7kJna</a></p>&mdash; Ryan O&#39;Hearn (@Rohearn11) <a href="https://twitter.com/Rohearn11/status/1466052808956956680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

kstater 12-01-2021 10:47 AM
Heel turn may make me like him though.

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Bowser 12-01-2021 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15984271)
NOOOOO

what the **** is this teams obsession with this guy.
Those two or three homers he hits once a month are absolute BOMBS. Just things of beauty.

duncan_idaho 12-01-2021 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 15984824)
Heel turn may make me like him though.

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Him hitting like a viable major league 1B would make me like him. Other than that, nothing can.

Mecca 12-01-2021 01:37 PM
Javy Baez goes to Detroit...

Al Bundy 12-01-2021 03:22 PM
Jacoby Jones... YAYYYY

dallaschiefsfan 12-01-2021 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 15985431)
Jacoby Jones... YAYYYY
It's just a minor league deal. The real news along those lines is that Lovelady was signed back on a minor league deal.

BWillie 12-01-2021 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 15984546)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Feelin the love this morning! <a href="https://t.co/fpZro7kJna">pic.twitter.com/fpZro7kJna</a></p>&mdash; Ryan O&#39;Hearn (@Rohearn11) <a href="https://twitter.com/Rohearn11/status/1466052808956956680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
**** off and die you AAAA no talent Kila Kiahuee piece of shit

Rams Fan 12-01-2021 05:03 PM
So who is ready for a lockout?

Mecca 12-01-2021 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 15985466)
It's just a minor league deal. The real news along those lines is that Lovelady was signed back on a minor league deal.
Lovelady won't be pitching this year so it doesn't even matter.

cabletech94 12-01-2021 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 15985567)
So who is ready for a lockout?
Apparently everyone……

dallaschiefsfan 12-01-2021 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15985576)
Lovelady won't be pitching this year so it doesn't even matter.
It matters if you want to oversee his rehab and he figures into your 2023 plans.

Al Bundy 12-01-2021 06:41 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals sign pitcher Taylor Clarke to a one-year deal <a href="https://t.co/r9aYhMv2dY">https://t.co/r9aYhMv2dY</a> <a href="https://t.co/YZGptS79EM">pic.twitter.com/YZGptS79EM</a></p>&mdash; Royals Review (@royalsreview) <a href="https://twitter.com/royalsreview/status/1466205578691239943?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

cabletech94 12-01-2021 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 15985660)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals sign pitcher Taylor Clarke to a one-year deal <a href="https://t.co/r9aYhMv2dY">https://t.co/r9aYhMv2dY</a> <a href="https://t.co/YZGptS79EM">pic.twitter.com/YZGptS79EM</a></p>&mdash; Royals Review (@royalsreview) <a href="https://twitter.com/royalsreview/status/1466205578691239943?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
CHAMPIONSHIPS MOTHER ****ERS!!!!

ChiefsCountry 12-01-2021 07:54 PM
It's hilarious reading the Facebook fans on the Royals signing of Clarke.

Al Bundy 12-01-2021 11:05 PM
Not Royals related... but.<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Oakland Athletics have made an offer on the 35-acre site on the Las Vegas Strip where the Tropicana currently sits, according to CNBC. A&#39;s president Dave Kaval has made at least six trips to Las Vegas looking at over 20 potential sites for a new $1 billion stadium. <a href="https://t.co/F67E42LGnu">pic.twitter.com/F67E42LGnu</a></p>&mdash; Arash Markazi (@ArashMarkazi) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/status/1466269577822674945?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BWillie 12-02-2021 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 15985908)
Not Royals related... but.<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Oakland Athletics have made an offer on the 35-acre site on the Las Vegas Strip where the Tropicana currently sits, according to CNBC. A&#39;s president Dave Kaval has made at least six trips to Las Vegas looking at over 20 potential sites for a new $1 billion stadium. <a href="https://t.co/F67E42LGnu">pic.twitter.com/F67E42LGnu</a></p>&mdash; Arash Markazi (@ArashMarkazi) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/status/1466269577822674945?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
RIP TROP

BWillie 12-02-2021 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 15985660)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals sign pitcher Taylor Clarke to a one-year deal <a href="https://t.co/r9aYhMv2dY">https://t.co/r9aYhMv2dY</a> <a href="https://t.co/YZGptS79EM">pic.twitter.com/YZGptS79EM</a></p>&mdash; Royals Review (@royalsreview) <a href="https://twitter.com/royalsreview/status/1466205578691239943?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Typical Royals reliever signing. Talent lacks production. Good peripherals. Good FIP. But sucks. Maybe he can be our next Wade Davis.

BigCatDaddy 12-02-2021 11:43 AM
Just because you can't ever see this too much.

https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/...OPWxQsi493wCAc

poolboy 12-03-2021 02:14 PM
This lockout really hurts the Royals young players that were slated to work with coaches in the offseason...Mondesi for one

WhawhaWhat 12-03-2021 08:27 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Had <a href="https://twitter.com/Bsinger51?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Bsinger51</a> convinced that <a href="https://twitter.com/kylezimmer11?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@kylezimmer11</a> wedding was black tie. Dress code couldn’t of been more clear on the invitations. He’s rocking a 3 piece with a bow tie in Cabo… <a href="https://t.co/jj4VbWaVTG">pic.twitter.com/jj4VbWaVTG</a></p>&mdash; Whit Merrifield (@WhitMerrifield) <a href="https://twitter.com/WhitMerrifield/status/1466897426602610688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

kstater 12-05-2021 05:41 PM
Buck got in today. I can’t wait for Bobs speech.

Ocotillo 12-08-2021 01:41 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The MiLB Rule 5 Draft is over. It was electric. To recap, the Royals did lose the following players: RHP Grant Gavin (Padres), LHP Austin Lambright (Red Sox), LHP Robert Garcia (Marlins), LHP Luis De Avila (Braves).</p>&mdash; Alec Lewis (@alec_lewis) <a href="https://twitter.com/alec_lewis/status/1468666040729149446?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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