Patrick Peterson...
 

....we need him.

YES! Can he also play linebacker?

Yes

doesn't he cost too much

We need a dc...

I’m laughing thinking about how defense is half our ****ing cap right now

Swing a deal for Petersen and Buchanan? Oh yeah Reddick too

It certainly wouldn't hurt. If he can prevent one drive a game from scoring, it's worth it. I wouldn't give up a first, but I'd sure as shit do a 2nd. We're going to have one of the last picks and so will the Rams.

Patrick Peterson isn't going to help our horrific LBs cover RBs out of the backfield.

80% of that wasn't even on the field, too.

We get Peterson and get Berry back, this defense is going to be a lot better right away.

Id give them a 1st. He is 28 and a great corner. How much better are you going to do with the 1st rounder?

Need LBs that can cover. Bad.

For what you'll be paying him you would have to pay Nelson and Scandrick next year since both are free agents. Make the trade let those guys walk sign a veteran for cheap and see if Smith is ready.

I'll be absolutely shocked if they don't make a move after this game.

Did O’Daniel even dress???

Make the trade.

Any defender would help, but cornerback is our least pressing need. We need.

1. Stop playing two-DL sets on anything other than (maybe) third and long.
2. A pass rusher. Any pass rusher. I miss having Justin Houston and wonder whatever happened to him.
3. An inside linebacker who's not useless. I miss Derrick Johnson.
4. A safety who's not afraid to tackle. I watched Ron Parker completely pull a Marcus Peters on a play tonight.

Wouldn't have made a difference today.

Safeties and ILBs are just murdering this team. And frankly, the down lineman were getting wrecked as well but in odd fronts, that's to be expected. Unfortunately, the run fits and general desire from the ILBs give them no help.

Hitchens, Ragland and Parker are killing us. And the 3rd safety is shite when he's on the field as well but that's an injury issue more than anything.

The CBs weren't the problem today and actually played pretty well again, IMO. The worst one was Fuller and it's not like hes gonna get benched.

Gotta fix the middle...

Yeah but ****, how?

Unless there’s a 3 down do it al ILB out there to be had

You get Peterson take away half the field funnel shit to the middle Berry cleans up some of that

Berry isn’t gonna play

I’d forget about that

Dorian O'Daniel = fail

Unfortunately, I agree. He’s done....

this, I don't think he plays

He'll be back around the end of November if I was a betting man.

My honest answer?

You fix the problem with the defense today by not leaving 11 points on the board in the 1st half through unforced errrors on offense.

I know its chickenshit but this team was NEVER designed to win with its D. Its supposed to win on offense and for half the game it looked like shit.

Dont get me wrong - that's not a tenable long-term solution. But there's no panacea that's going to fix this defense this season. So you're going to have to win with what you have.

I'm floored by how completely ineffective Hitchens and Ragland are. They're just awful.

4-3, man. Quit asking as much of those guys as we are because they clearly arent up for it.

If you get Peterson and move Fuller to nickel and Scandrick to safety the defense starts to look a whole lot better.

No

Peterson, Bethea and Buchanon for third down situations

Make the deal.

Probably so.

They played an ass hole half of football and we’re still right there.

Make some trades, get healthy and see what happens

I think adding an elite cornerback would make a difference.

DJLN is right.

ILB and Safety play is atrocious. Hitchens has been disappointing and Ragland is useless. Parker has no business out there. Chiefs have to be honest with themselves. If Berry and/or Sorenson is a no-go, you have to move on a Deone Buchanan. I’d even look to get DJ back from Oakland. He won’t help coverage but can help with the run fits on 1st/2nd down.

While Pat Peterson would be nice, he’d be a luxury. There are more glaring problems.

Please explain how having a guy who can lock down 1/3rd of the field doesn't help the rest of the defense

Because we cannot cover running backs or TE’s nor stop the run.

That’s why.

i like his first name but his last name doesn't work for this team.

Houston is a valuable asset both with the pass rush and coverage. Berry in coverage and against the run. You're telling me the Pats dont punt once or twice with them in the game?

1st and 3rd for Peterson and Buchanan and maybe they throw a pick back our way. They say no?
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Yeah, it's frustrating that they retired right as the Mahomes era began.

Really they need to land an impact player through a trade and have Berry actually come back. This defense needs to get from horrible to at least bad. We might be able to score our ways to playoff wins with a bad defense. Expecting to win multiple playoff games with a horrible defense is asking too much.

Having a lockdown corner on the other team's best WR allows the rest of the defense to key in on TEs and RBs.........

We will never know.

These brokedicks are never on the field at the same time if you haven’t noticed.

I don’t think we need Deone Buchanan. I think we need Hassan Reddick. That guy is an athletic freak who would replace Ragland and help stop RB’s.

Should be able to have them both in December.

BTW they let Parker walk originally for a reason. Tonight we saw why.

No!

We pissed away Peters for a 3rd round pick and now people want to trade a first for his replacement? This is what perennial loser teams do. We have to think long term.

We let Peters go because hes a petulant child and a team cancer. I dont see him with a new contract yet do you?

yes, another 10-12 years right?

It still amounts to trading a 1st for a 3rd. It's idiotic.

Peters is gone. Let's not compound it by chasing a window that will be open for a long ass time.

Peterson is under contract for the next couple years

So he fixes a hole for that long

They got a 2nd and a 4th for peters

To your point,Pats gave the recipe on how to beat us(attack the LBs) and sure isn't a rocket science recipe either.:rolleyes:

Our window is 18 years. We are in no hurry.

I mean, we can think that but it just doesn’t always work out like that.

Peterson, Another starting LB, Houston and Berry Back, Lucas takes Nelsons starting spot....and we steamroll to the SB.

A delayed 2nd is like a 3rd. Even without the discounted value with the delay, it is a trade you can't make. Smells like panic and we aren't in a panic situation.

Peterson and Reddick

Lmao no it's not. After Mahomes rookie deal is up, the window closes considerably. Our biggest window is now and the next 3 years.
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It is if you believe Mahomes is in the same class as Roethlisberger/Brady/Manning.

Those teams have had their windows open for 10+ years.

This doesn't even make any sense. It's not like we traded Peters just because. How is filling a major need with a top 3 player something that perennial losers do.

And what are we saving draft picks for? To draft someone we hope can be as good as Peterson? Why not just get Peterson now and skip searching through the mystery box that is the draft?
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We have to take on his contract which means who are we cutting, who are we getting to redo their current contract to try and squeeze Peterson in as well as what is it going to take to acquire said draft pics.

With that said, it's piece, not enough to turn the tide to make our defense solid now. Need more, who, where do you find the team, money to fit it all in. Is 2 players enough ?


Answer : Nope.

Would love Reddick, Peterson and Bethea.

I never said the window closes all the way. But it is significantly harder to build around a QB when you're paying him top dollar. Especially since we'll have to pay Tyreek top dollar too. Look at what's happened to the Seahawks since they had to pay Wilson franchise QB money, and his contract will seem cheap compared to what we'll have to give Mahomes.

Yes the window will likely be open for as long as Mahomes is healthy, but it will never been as open as it is during his rookie deal.
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Maybe they’re the same person?! :eek:

to the idiots out there, Peterson locks down a wr way better then Peters ever did. Peters gambles and gets turnovers, Peterson is an actual lockdown CB. It would immediately help the defense because Sutton refuses to change anything.

This! Get rid of Ragland.

This. Pat just needs 1 stop.

I’m with cdcox. And I think Rain Man is right that we have bigger defensive needs than CB.

Peterson is an All Pro talent at CB with 2.5 years of a pretty good contract left. Even 1 player like that is a huge boon to a unit as bereft of talent as our defense is. Also allows Fuller to do what he's actually good at.

What can they do to restructure Berry's contract? He's not coming back

Nothing. He's ****ing us badly right now.

I already know what will happen, Berry will play in one game, get hurt and sit out the rest of the year. then next season he will do the same thing until we can finally move on from his contract. He will keep collecting the money because he got "injured" during a game

Veach won't do shit. When have we traded for a big name ever?

Can he play safety? Because currently our safeties are a big steamy pile of crap.

Why is he not a Chief yet

We were a **** hair away from trading for Earl Thomas.

FWIW, Steven Wilks was pretty emphatic about shutting down the trade rumors surrounding Peterson. Could just be coach speak but he might not even be on the market.

This isn't a single trade will fix everything scenario. We should trade for peterson and a safety and a LB if at all possible. But we do have safeties that are hopefully returning. At CB, we are stuck with what we have, and honestly if I have to watch Stephen Nelson interfere this another WR and then get up and make some dumb ass gesture to the camera, I'm going to freaking explode. After last night it should be obvious that Lucas should take that guy's starting spot.

What kind of dumb take is this? Big names almost never get traded in the NFL, but we're as aggressive as any team in the league recently in UFA or the draft. There is no reason whatsoever to believe we won't trade for the right guy if he's actually available.

This game would have been different if Houston and Tanoh played. We were getting heat on Brady early, and he was missing passed. It’s harder to account for Houston, and Ford on the line!

Add Eric Berry, Justin Houston & Patrick Peterson to the defense last night and who wins?

Make the deal Veach!