I like this "false narrative" that everything I say is based on PFF statistics.

I've seen Alex Smith play with my own two eyes.

Yuck.

There are also no PFF statistics for Geno Smith, Dane.

What? That is untrue.

Um, no. You did it for weeks prior to my blowing my lid. I'd had enough of your comments, especially considering we were discussing a quarterback, not life and death (which was what I was facing at the time).


I'm not calling THAT into question, because I've seen you do it with Stanzi. I'm calling into question that notion that you didn't view him as first rounder and worthy of 1.1.

You cherry-pick. True or false?

I think we all know the answer.

If that's your opinion, fine. The rest of the NFL and more importantly, John Dorsey and Andy Reid disagree.

Oh but once there are, I'm sure you'll be spamming them all over this site.

Well, unless they suck.

LMAO

If Geno Smith bombs I'll admit defeat Dane.

I've admitted I was wrong about stuff plenty of times.

Your problem is that you never do.

It's OK to be wrong, Dane.

I still think he would have been worthy of that top pick...even though I think he would have needed to sit at least a full season and may even be best served to sit two.

Why is that so hard for you to understand?

I guess the disagreement is how we value quarterbacks that have a high upside, but need to sit.

I say if the guy has elite upside...even if that upside would take multiple years to start showing up....he can't be drafted high enough. Even with the top pick in the draft.

Yay. You were still wrong about him being a first rounder and worthy of 1.1, so you've already lost that battle.

Where? When?

I admitted I was wrong in this very thread. You must have been too busy whacking it to GILF porn to notice.

I prefer to keep it at a minimum.

I base my opinion on what I deem most relevant.

Alex Smith's style of play, statistics and abilities are all crap to me.

Meanwhile, I don't give a shit about his W-L record, because I've seen plenty of crap QBs drug to winning seasons by good teams.

There is a thimbleful of evidence (1.5 winning seasons) that support this idea that Alex Smith is good.

The balance of his career says **** NO.

If Geno Smith had been taken 1.1, you and the other guys would have been jumping for joy and in some cases, shitting the bed (and this forum).

I said for months that he wasn't worthy, yet I was met with strong resistance. Now that it's been proven that the NFL viewed him as I did, you, GoChiefs and a few select others still can't admit that you were wrong about him and I was right.

I would have had no problem had he been taken in the second or third round. But he was not a first round prospect or worthy of 1.1. The guy has too many questions surrounding him, including leadership, decision making and the fact that pass rush like those from K-State and Texas made him play horribly.

And this is where I disagreed and where the NFL disagreed. E.J. Manuel is a classic boom or bust guy and Buffalo thought he was worthy of a first rounder. The rest of the draft class wasn't. Every player has flaws, from leadership to experience to arm strength.

GM's and coaches just don't have three or four years to develop a first round QB these days and that isn't likely to change anytime soon.

I can admit I was wrong about the NFL. I thought he would be picked in the first and he wasn't.

I won't admit I was wrong about Geno. In three years time he will have proven he's a first-round caliber of QB.

Relevant to your narrative. Thank you for finally admitting it.

And that could be said of many NFL QB's that went on to appear in or win a Super Bowl. Yet, because THAT doesn't fit your false narrative, you chose to ignore it as well.

It's becoming painfully obvious that even you don't understand how flawed your reasoning has become.

All I know is leopards can't change their spots.

Guys like Alex Smith fail in the modern NFL. You have to be able to throw the ball down the field.

It's as simple as that.

You were right about where he was picked in the draft, yes.

Is that what you wanted to hear?

JFC

I said this early last fall and I'll say it again: Geno is not a leader of men.

The guy came to NFL teams on his job interview texting his friends and tweeting.
He also folded like a cheap tent when the rest of his team was in trouble.

Clay you say Alex Smith can't lift the team when things go wrong. Neither did Geno.

You say Alex Smith lives and dies with the dump off and won't succeed because of it. Secondroundstats.com proved that Geno made a shit ton of short passes.

Tavon Austin was the engine that drove WVU's offense, not Geno Smith.

Geno isn't perfect, but he has a lot of time to improve.

Alex Smith has none.

Didn't you want Alex Smith a few years ago?