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Oxford 01-29-2019 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14079230)
He was okay for a rookie when he got his chance. Tanoh is the one who will benefit from this the most. That guy is 6’7”. His body frame isn’t right for a 3-4 OLB at all.

Look up Art Still and his career..........

The Franchise 01-29-2019 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14079459)
I know this is an oversimplification, but doesn't the over scheme limit the critical importance of the wide 9 DE from stopping the run? Seems like the goal is to put him on the weak side away from the extra blockers, and make his main responsibility exploding off the line.

And teams will just run right at him.

chiefzilla1501 01-29-2019 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14079779)
And teams will just run right at him.

You can minimize some of that damage with good safeties. Which I imagine is high high priority anyway. Seems this is a role that reduces his run responsibility which is a good thing. Less TE matchups. More need to seal the edge vs contain the run.

RealSNR 01-29-2019 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 14079394)
If they trade Ford, a cheaper vet option for the LEO could be Bruce Irvin. He played there in Seattle and Atlanta (was out of position in Oakland, iirc). He's on the wrong side of 30 so isn't the future but he could hold the fort down in that position while the Chiefs got a rookie up to speed and then provide backup. It sounds like he may go back to Seattle but, if he wants a chance at another ring, he might consider KC.

Dude, our defense was ugly enough last year. It doesn't need Bruce Irvin's horrific monster face.

Frosty 01-29-2019 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14079807)
Dude, our defense was ugly enough last year. It doesn't need Bruce Irvin's horrific monster face.

They could give him one of those face shield things like DT always wore.

Cow Pollinator 01-29-2019 04:28 PM

Guys, I’m sorry if this has been talked about, but does Shane Ray fit in this defense? Or would he be projected to fit here? It seems I recall seeing Denver declined his 5th year option.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-29-2019 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cow Pollinator (Post 14079970)
Guys, I’m sorry if this has been talked about, but does Shane Ray fit in this defense? Or would he be projected to fit here? It seems I recall seeing Denver declined his 5th year option.

I’ve got my eyes on him if they let Ford go for sure.

Cow Pollinator 01-29-2019 04:38 PM

Ok, thanks. Maybe he could be an option here.

saphojunkie 01-29-2019 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14079294)
I'd like to see them load up on versatility on the line. I think ultimately that may be the thinking with Speaks and it certainly is with Jones. I like the idea of Spags running a 4-man front with all DE's like he did with the Giants. Stunts, blitzes, just mixing up everything and going crazy.

Derrick Nnadi prevents this. You won't be able to keep him off the field.

htismaqe 01-29-2019 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 14080044)
Derrick Nnadi prevents this. You won't be able to keep him off the field.

They won't be using him all the time on 3rd-down.

staylor26 01-29-2019 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 14080044)
Derrick Nnadi prevents this. You won't be able to keep him off the field.

What does this even mean?

He will come off the field in subs and Speaks will slide inside.

Chris Meck 01-29-2019 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14079974)
I’ve got my eyes on him if they let Ford go for sure.

Probably a cheap reclamation project. Worth taking a flyer on him.Seems like a Veach-y sort of move.

Chris Meck 01-29-2019 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14080070)
What does this even mean?

He will come off the field in subs and Speaks will slide inside.

IF Spags has 4 aces to run his 4 aces package with.

right now it doesn't look like it, but we'll see after FA and the draft.

I like Nnadi a lot, though, and he was getting some push even as a rookie, so who knows?

It's going to be a lot of fun seeing what happens with the roster over the next 4 months or so.

Chris Meck 01-30-2019 08:29 AM

So, I just read an article that claimed Brandon Graham would demand $15+million on the market. For a 6 sack guy. WTF? I says.
So I went over to Spotrac, and yep, that's what they estimate his market value is as well. So, I think the $15-$16 million estimate for Ford is a) probably going to be way too low and b) whatever it ends up being, will not be a deterrent for anyone looking for a pass rusher. In fact, I think it entirely probable if that's how these contracts are going to go, that we get a #1 for Ford.

We REALLY need to hit big time on this draft.

Red Dawg 01-30-2019 08:35 AM

Veach should dump whoever Spags wants dumped. Cut the fat money. Bringing back the same guys is not good. They sucked.


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