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TLO 01-24-2019 04:33 PM

Chiefs hire Steve Spagnuolo as new defensive coordinator
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are hiring Steve Spagnuolo as their new defensive coordinator, sources say. The former <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Giants?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Giants</a> DC and interim HC/<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rams?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Rams</a> HC began his NFL coaching career as an <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Eagles?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Eagles</a> assistant under Andy Reid. Now rejoins Big Red in KC.</p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1088564261704683521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 01-24-2019 04:33 PM

****

007 01-24-2019 04:34 PM

Well shit. Same as it ever was.

chiefforlife 01-24-2019 04:35 PM

Well OK then.

Lets get behind this guy. GOOOO SPAAGS!!!

Direckshun 01-24-2019 04:35 PM

Yikes.

Mahomes on the last year of his rookie deal -- and we're radically changing defensive schemes.

2019 is looking to be a whole lot like 2018 was. Mahomes slaughtering people and our defense getting slaughtered in return.

KChiefs1 01-24-2019 04:36 PM

Dammit

-King- 01-24-2019 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 14070073)
Yikes.

Mahomes on the last year of his rookie deal -- and we're radically changing defensive schemes.

2019 is looking to be a whole lot like 2018 was. Mahomes slaughtering people and our defense getting slaughtered in return.

So we should have kept doing what we were doing? Wtf?

Discuss Thrower 01-24-2019 04:37 PM

Safe and boring. Boring and safe.

OnTheWarpath15 01-24-2019 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 14070073)
Yikes.

Mahomes on the last year of his rookie deal -- and we're radically changing defensive schemes.

2019 is looking to be a whole lot like 2018 was. Mahomes slaughtering people and our defense getting slaughtered in return.

What the hell are you talking about?

Mahomes is signed through 2020 and has an option for 2021.

Perineum Ripper 01-24-2019 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 14070073)
Yikes.

Mahomes on the last year of his rookie deal -- and we're radically changing defensive schemes.

2019 is looking to be a whole lot like 2018 was. Mahomes slaughtering people and our defense getting slaughtered in return.

How is Mahomes on the last year of his rookie deal?

Marcellus 01-24-2019 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 14070073)
Yikes.

Mahomes on the last year of his rookie deal -- and we're radically changing defensive schemes.

2019 is looking to be a whole lot like 2018 was. Mahomes slaughtering people and our defense getting slaughtered in return.

JFC dude Mahomes is starting year 3 of a 5 year deal.

The Franchise 01-24-2019 04:38 PM

ROFL.....Direckshun ****s up again.

Dante84 01-24-2019 04:38 PM

Page 1 and the hot takes are that it’s too radical and that it’s too safe.

God I love CP.

Hammock Parties 01-24-2019 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 14070073)
Yikes.

Mahomes on the last year of his rookie deal -- and we're radically changing defensive schemes.

2019 is looking to be a whole lot like 2018 was. Mahomes slaughtering people and our defense getting slaughtered in return.

Actually I disagree entirely.

There's no place to go but up.

Instituting the 4-3 might turn Hitchens into a dramatically more effective player, and Chris Jones is going to WRECK SHIT at 3-tech.

chiefforlife 01-24-2019 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac459 (Post 14070082)
How is Mahomes on the last year of his rookie deal?

Next year will be his third year, he will then be eligible for a new deal and he will get it!!

redfan 01-24-2019 04:38 PM

Dangit. I was hoping for a younger guy.

Simply Red 01-24-2019 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 14070080)
Safe and boring. Boring and safe.

I agree hun

Hammock Parties 01-24-2019 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InTheNeutralZone55 (Post 14070081)
What the hell are you talking about?

Mahomes is signed through 2020 and has an option for 2021.

Wrong Direckshun

Dante84 01-24-2019 04:40 PM

We needed someone who can get us to mediocre. Mahomes will do the rest.

Good hire.

JakeF 01-24-2019 04:40 PM

You had to figure that Andy would hire a buddy. At least Britt's job is safe. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he keeps almost all of our current Defensive coaches. That will make Andy really happy.

I hope Spagnuolo doesn't suck.

suzzer99 01-24-2019 04:41 PM

As long as our defense can get a stop or two late - I don't care how bad they get slaughtered early.

Bob's defense was pretty good in the first Q, then got terrible late - as he refused to make adjustments, refused to get aggressive when we either need a stop or a bomb is ok because we get the ball back. And maybe his defense is impossible to execute when you're gassed or something.

Literally we just need a competent DC with some creativity, willingness to adjust in game, and balls when called for. IMO

RollChiefsRoll 01-24-2019 04:41 PM

Hello darkness, my old friend...

New World Order 01-24-2019 04:41 PM

He has a proven track record of improving defenses. Our personnel is better suited at 4-3.

Good hire

staylor26 01-24-2019 04:41 PM

I wonder what, if any, changes will be made to the defensive staff.

dannybcaitlyn 01-24-2019 04:41 PM

****. I guess I’ll be arguing with Chiefzilla the next six years as Spags will probably fail to deliver. He’ll be the 43 version of Sutton bend but don’t break.

New World Order 01-24-2019 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14070088)
Actually I disagree entirely.

There's no place to go but up.

Instituting the 4-3 might turn Hitchens into a dramatically more effective player, and Chris Jones is going to WRECK SHIT at 3-tech.

Same with Tanoh

Tanoh could be very good in a 4-3.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 01-24-2019 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redhed (Post 14070090)
Dangit. I was hoping for a younger guy.

I mean he is younger then Sutton!

chiefforlife 01-24-2019 04:42 PM

Spags is a good hire. He may also give us an inside track to Landon Collins!!

Not a sexy hire but a good one.

Discuss Thrower 01-24-2019 04:42 PM

I harassed Danan Hughes about the whole 3-4 or 4-3 thing a few weeks ago.

He pointed out it's almost irrelevant considering how often you come across an opponent who operates out of the spread.

wazu 01-24-2019 04:42 PM

Gunther Cunningham to Reid’s Greg Robinson.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 01-24-2019 04:43 PM

They say Sutton was terrible but he’s never been the 32 ranked defense. Spags on the other hand.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Steve Spagnuolo Defenses the last 7 years have ranked:<br>29<br>19<br>22<br>32<br>32<br>10<br>31</p>&mdash; Mike (@SpaceWxMike) <a href="https://twitter.com/SpaceWxMike/status/1088566687878864896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Marcellus 01-24-2019 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redhed (Post 14070090)
Dangit. I was hoping for a younger guy.

Wasn't going to happen, Reid wants someone he can hand over the defense too and let run it while he focuses on offense.

staylor26 01-24-2019 04:43 PM

I’m sure taking a year off was good for Spags.

He’s been in some shitty situations, had time to reflect/grow from an outside perspective, and now he’s coming to a team with more pass rushing talent than any he’s been apart of in a decade.

He’s also going to have a bunch of rookie and sophomore talent on that side of the ball to groom.

kc rush 01-24-2019 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redhed (Post 14070090)
Dangit. I was hoping for a younger guy.

That was never going to happen. Andy wants to turn the D over to someone else, so you know he was going to look for someone he was comfortable with and who has been a DC before. The fact that Spags has been a DC and HC only helped his case along with being on Andy's Philly staff.

Dunerdr 01-24-2019 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 14070089)
Next year will be his third year, he will then be eligible for a new deal and he will get it!!

You need to chill on the 200million 2020
Posts on fb man

Marcellus 01-24-2019 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14070111)
They say Sutton was terrible but he’s never been the 32 ranked defense. Spags on the other hand.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Steve Spagnuolo Defenses the last 7 years have ranked:<br>29<br>19<br>22<br>32<br>32<br>10<br>31</p>&mdash; Mike (@SpaceWxMike) <a href="https://twitter.com/SpaceWxMike/status/1088566687878864896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If only life existed in a vacuum.

Hammock Parties 01-24-2019 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14070102)
Same with Tanoh

Tanoh could be very good in a 4-3.

Disagree on this.

If he couldn't beat tackles in a 3-4 he ain't doing it in a 4-3.

Backup at best.

The Franchise 01-24-2019 04:45 PM

Well....Reid gets to look at a Superbowl ring up close now on a daily basis.

The Franchise 01-24-2019 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14070120)
Disagree on this.

If he couldn't beat tackles in a 3-4 he ain't doing it in a 4-3.

Backup at best.

KPASS TO THE PROBOWL IN 2019!!! Mark that shit down now folks.

JakeF 01-24-2019 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14070094)
We needed someone who can get us to mediocre. Mahomes will do the rest.

Good hire.

By all means, let's shoot for mediocre.

Simply Red 01-24-2019 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14070111)
They say Sutton was terrible but he’s never been the 32 ranked defense. Spags on the other hand.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Steve Spagnuolo Defenses the last 7 years have ranked:<br>29<br>19<br>22<br>32<br>32<br>10<br>31</p>&mdash; Mike (@SpaceWxMike) <a href="https://twitter.com/SpaceWxMike/status/1088566687878864896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

there's an awful lot of variables to factor.

The Franchise 01-24-2019 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14070124)
By all means, let's shoot for mediocre.

Why not...you do with every one of your ****ing posts.

saphojunkie 01-24-2019 04:47 PM

I have done some internet research and am now an absolute expert on whether this will work or not.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-24-2019 04:47 PM

Why do idiots think that switching to a 4-3 is going to make 2019 a wasted year? It’s not that complicated.

Again, the Chargers did this from 2016 to 2017 and got much better. It’s not about scheme, it’s matching the players you have to the right scheme. Right now, ours fit a 4-3 better than a 3-4 and it’s also easier to find college players out of a 4-3.

JakeF 01-24-2019 04:47 PM

Houston,Williams,Nnadi,Jones,Hitchens,O'Daniels should all fit in a 4-3 scheme.

BWillie 01-24-2019 04:47 PM

Just a terrible terrible hire.

saphojunkie 01-24-2019 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14070111)
They say Sutton was terrible but he’s never been the 32 ranked defense. Spags on the other hand.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Steve Spagnuolo Defenses the last 7 years have ranked:<br>29<br>19<br>22<br>32<br>32<br>10<br>31</p>&mdash; Mike (@SpaceWxMike) <a href="https://twitter.com/SpaceWxMike/status/1088566687878864896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's a good thing all of these defenses were for the same team, and none of them involved any turnover or turmoil.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 01-24-2019 04:49 PM

Reid doesn’t want to win a super bowl. Hell Bieneimy may be Head Coach after this year

SuperChief 01-24-2019 04:49 PM

What would our starters look like in a base 4-3? (if this has been discussed/posted somewhere else - my bad)

Simply Red 01-24-2019 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14070127)
Why not...you do with every one of your ****ing posts.

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Simply Red 01-24-2019 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 14070129)
I have done some internet research and am now an absolute expert on whether this will work or not.

yip - exactly

In58men 01-24-2019 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14070140)
Reid doesn’t want to win a super bowl. Hell Bieneimy may be Head Coach after this year

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

Chiefspants 01-24-2019 04:51 PM

Andy is always going to choose “his guys”. It’s who he is, and why we let two people go who competed for “executives of the year”

We will always have to hope that Mahomes can help Andy overcome his stubbornness.

Just get us into the Top 20, Spags.

chinaski 01-24-2019 04:52 PM

Well, there is a positive to this...

Spagnuolo's wife hates Tom Brady and she likes to bake cookies. Perhaps that influenced Reid? (And NO, I am not joking, google it)

Bowser 01-24-2019 04:53 PM

He's not Sutton. Let's roll.

The Franchise 01-24-2019 04:53 PM

Speaks - Nnadi - Jones - Houston

DOD - ??? - Hitchens

Ward - Berry - Watts/Lucas - Fuller

Fish 01-24-2019 04:53 PM

This is the worst thing ever! Probably!!

LMAO... the initial reactions around here.....

Hammock Parties 01-24-2019 04:53 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DVOA of defenses that Spagnuolo has DC&#39;d are as follows... 13th, 8th, 32nd, 30th, 2nd, and 24th.</p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1088570023566893056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Marcellus 01-24-2019 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14070140)
Reid doesn’t want to win a super bowl. Hell Bieneimy may be Head Coach after this year

Do you wear velcro shoes?

RealSNR 01-24-2019 04:53 PM

Some of you guys are being ****ing idiots with the “But we have to get young and hungry if we want good coaching!”

Remember when our fat **** coach in his 60s reinvented the wheel for offensive football in the NFL with a unique QB and college spread concepts?

Yeah, it was this ****ing year. Hell, he did it with Alex too.

Old doesn’t mean anything. All it means is he’s old. That’s it.

JakeF 01-24-2019 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperChief (Post 14070141)
What would our starters look like in a base 4-3? (if this has been discussed/posted somewhere else - my bad)

Houston will probably be a DE
Jones will be a 3-tech
Williams and Nnadi will be DT
Hitchens will be a MLB
O'Daniel will be OLB (weakside probably)

Hammock Parties 01-24-2019 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14070157)
Speaks - Nnadi - Jones - Houston

DOD - ??? - Hitchens

Ward - Berry - Watts/Lucas - Fuller

Hitchens will remain MLB.

I think they'll draft a SLB.

DOD will probably compete with someone for the WLB spot.

wazu 01-24-2019 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14070130)
Why do idiots think that switching to a 4-3 is going to make 2019 a wasted year? It’s not that complicated.

Again, the Chargers did this from 2016 to 2017 and got much better. It’s not about scheme, it’s matching the players you have to the right scheme. Right now, ours fit a 4-3 better than a 3-4 and it’s also easier to find college players out of a 4-3.

Not worried about 4-3 making 2019 a wasted year. Worried about Spagnuolo making the next 5 years a “wasted half decade”.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-24-2019 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14070161)
Do you wear velcro shoes?

I swear that guy is Penbrook

Bowser 01-24-2019 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14070157)
Speaks - Nnadi - Jones - Houston

DOD - ??? - Hitchens

Ward - Berry - Watts/Lucas - Fuller

Get 15-20 pounds on Niemann and see if he can handle it.

The Franchise 01-24-2019 04:55 PM

Chiefs hired ex-Giants DC Steve Spagnuolo as defensive coordinator.

The cocoon hire to end all cocoon hires, Spags should at least be an improvement on Bob Sutton. Spagnuolo occasionally oversaw fearsome defenses with the Giants. Personnel was sometimes an issue the second time around. Spagnuolo began his NFL coaching career under Andy Reid in Philadelphia. If the bar is merely to be better than Sutton, Spags will clear it. Personnel issues and the Chiefs' style of play means the defense will almost certainly still give up a boatload of points in 2019.

www.rotoworld.com

Cheater5 01-24-2019 04:55 PM

JFC. Chicken-fookin-Littles up in here.

Anyone, repeat, A-N-Y-O-N-E is better than Bob Sutton. It was long overdue. Fresh voice, fresh take, new schemes. Justin Houston staring at the back of his locker after the AFC Championship loss said “we ain’t goin anywhere with this mother****er...”

That defense last year was reeruned and undisciplined. This is a good thing. Get on board with it, or get run over.

kcpasco 01-24-2019 04:55 PM

The ink hasn’t even dried yet and some people are already shitting on this guy. I would have settled for a parking cone over Sutton so I’ll give him a shot before I crucify him.

RollChiefsRoll 01-24-2019 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14070157)
Speaks - Nnadi - Jones - Houston

DOD - ??? - Hitchens

Ward - Berry - Watts/Lucas - Fuller

Isn't Berry going to need some kind of detachment/reattachment of his Achilles to fix the ****ing Haglund's? And won't that sideline him for a good portion of next season?

If so, gonna need another safety too.

BleedingRed 01-24-2019 04:56 PM

I hate it, I think our defense will give up just about the same number next year but with half as many sacks.

In58men 01-24-2019 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheater5 (Post 14070172)
JFC. Chicken-fookin-Littles up in here.

Anyone, repeat, A-N-Y-O-N-E is better than Bob Sutton. It was long overdue. Fresh voice, fresh take, new schemes. Justin Houston staring at the back of his locker after the AFC Championship loss said “we ain’t goin anywhere with this mother****er...”

That defense last year was reeruned and undisciplined. This is a good thing. Get on board with it, or get run over.

All we need is top 20 defense not the #1

We don’t have Smith anymore

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 01-24-2019 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 14070173)
The ink hasn’t even dried yet and some people are already shitting on this guy. I would have settled for a parking cone over Sutton so I’ll give him a shot before I crucify him.

Sutton Defense was never ranked 32

Fish 01-24-2019 04:56 PM

A cardboard cutout of Dick Butkus would be better than Sutton. We're looking up.

The Franchise 01-24-2019 04:56 PM

As long as we're switching to a 4-3.......I'm fine with it.

chinaski 01-24-2019 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 14070158)
This is the worst thing ever! Probably!!

LMAO... the initial reactions around here.....

JFC these guys were calling for Sutton's head ALL ****ING YEAR. ANYBODY BUT SUTTON, Blah Blah Blah.

Now we have "anybody but Sutton" and it's ****ing Chicken Little. :rolleyes:

The Franchise 01-24-2019 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 14070176)
I hate it, I think our defense will give up just about the same number next year but with half as many sacks.

There it is folks.

Titty Meat 01-24-2019 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14070157)
Speaks - Nnadi - Jones - Houston

DOD - ??? - Hitchens

Ward - Berry - Watts/Lucas - Fuller

How many top 100 picks do we have? I'd be pretty surprised if what you posted is the line up next year.

Cosmos 01-24-2019 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14070113)
Wasn't going to happen, Reid wants someone he can hand over the defense too and let run it while he focuses on offense.

Seems apparent.

Brett keeps his job.

Is a DC change going to make these women tackle like real men???

dirk digler 01-24-2019 04:58 PM

meh..whatever. I am not surprised though because of his relationship with Reid and his ability to not have to babysit him.

Not jumping up and down excited about it so I will take a wait and see approach. He has to be better than Sutton

wazu 01-24-2019 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14070162)
Some of you guys are being ****ing idiots with the “But we have to get young and hungry if we want good coaching!”

Remember when our fat **** coach in his 60s reinvented the wheel for offensive football in the NFL with a unique QB and college spread concepts?

Yeah, it was this ****ing year. Hell, he did it with Alex too.

Old doesn’t mean anything. All it means is he’s old. That’s it.

Would you rather have a guy who has proven time and time again that he sucks, or someone who might be good, even great?


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