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Hoover 10-09-2012 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8997039)
Pioli's rep around the league is dogshit. No coach wants to come here and be micromanaged and told who to play.
says who?

Wasn't Haley dog shit too until the Steelers hired him?

I forgot, Haley is now a cult hero because some reporter wrote that he didn't get along with Pioli.

DeezNutz 10-09-2012 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 8997048)
I think keeping Pioli is the Chiefs best option. Do I have concerns? You bet I do, but installing a new GM means major change to the organization. That is why teams don't change GM's all the time. I'd rather have Pioli, whose grace period is over, than a new GM who will need time to get his people and philosophy in place.

The Chiefs suck on the field because of a lack of leadership by the head coach and QB. I know some of you think it comes from the GM and owner, I disagree. Ownership and the front office set long term strategy and philosophy.

I think Pioli knows that he has to hire a legitimate head coach. He needs to understand that while the Chiefs are shaped by his philosophy, its still the head coaches team.

I think that means Pioli needs to select a proven HC. A known entity. The new coach at Pioli need to have mutual respect for each other, otherwise its never going to work.

The QB thing is a given.
Who the hell empowered these guys? I'm baffled here. The best thing about hiring a new GM is that there would be major change to the organization.

New World Order 10-09-2012 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8996994)
What shitbag coach is Pioli going to hire this time?

Brian Daboll?

"Brian did a great job with the offense and we led the league in rushing."




Josh Mcdaniels sounds about right, then they will keep Cassel, right after that we all meet in the Chiefs pavillion to drink cyanide.

Chiefspants 10-09-2012 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 8997048)
The new coach at Pioli need to have mutual respect for each other, otherwise its never going to work.
Patriots Tree ftw!

Hammock Parties 10-09-2012 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 8997048)
installing a new GM means major change to the organization.
THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.

Hoover 10-09-2012 07:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8997058)
Who the hell empowered these guys? I'm baffled here. The best thing about hiring a new GM is that there would be major change to the organization.
GM sits behind a desk and is in a suite during the game. The head coach must command respect and provide leadership

Titty Meat 10-09-2012 07:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 8997048)
I think keeping Pioli is the Chiefs best option. Do I have concerns? You bet I do, but installing a new GM means major change to the organization. That is why teams don't change GM's all the time. I'd rather have Pioli, whose grace period is over, than a new GM who will need time to get his people and philosophy in place.

The Chiefs suck on the field because of a lack of leadership by the head coach and QB. I know some of you think it comes from the GM and owner, I disagree. Ownership and the front office set long term strategy and philosophy.

I think Pioli knows that he has to hire a legitimate head coach. He needs to understand that while the Chiefs are shaped by his philosophy, its still the head coaches team.

I think that means Pioli needs to select a proven HC. A known entity. The new coach at Pioli need to have mutual respect for each other, otherwise its never going to work.

The QB thing is a given.
Pioli is the worst option he's created a divide between the fans and the team.

It's very likely a new GM drafts a QB thus making this team a playoff competitor. If that happens Clark will have won the fans back over. There's nothing Pioli can do short of a playoff victory to win over the fans and given his track record the playoffs are unlikely.

Raiderhater 10-09-2012 07:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 8997048)
I think keeping Pioli is the Chiefs best option. Do I have concerns? You bet I do, but installing a new GM means major change to the organization. That is why teams don't change GM's all the time. I'd rather have Pioli, whose grace period is over, than a new GM who will need time to get his people and philosophy in place.

The Chiefs suck on the field because of a lack of leadership by the head coach and QB. I know some of you think it comes from the GM and owner, I disagree. Ownership and the front office set long term strategy and philosophy.

I think Pioli knows that he has to hire a legitimate head coach. He needs to understand that while the Chiefs are shaped by his philosophy, its still the head coaches team.

I think that means Pioli needs to select a proven HC. A known entity. The new coach at Pioli need to have mutual respect for each other, otherwise its never going to work.

The QB thing is a given.

EXACTLY.

Mr_Tomahawk 10-09-2012 07:41 PM
Anyone have a link to this bullshit?

Chief_For_Life58 10-09-2012 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8997069)
Pioli is the worst option he's created a divide between the fans and the team.

It's very likely a new GM drafts a QB thus making this team a playoff competitor. If that happens Clark will have won the fans back over. There's nothing Pioli can do short of a playoff victory to win over the fans and given his track record the playoffs are unlikely.
if clark cares he'll fire pioli so new blood can get in here and draft us a fcukin qb already

Hoover 10-09-2012 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8997065)
THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.
no need for the Chiefs to start from scratch IMO. We have lots of pieces, just need a QB and Coach. Not small things, but I don't think the organizations philosophy is flawed.

New GM may mean new offensive and defensive schemes that require different types of players. Remember Gun wanting huge ass WR's and then DV wanting smaller quicker guys? If you want to actually build a team in the modern era your team needs a consistent identity and philosophy.

Hammock Parties 10-09-2012 07:43 PM
2011: "It was all Haley's fault."

2012: "It was all Cassel's fault."

Clark must have blown his profs at SMU to get that degree if he's dumb enough to accept those excuses.

Chiefspants 10-09-2012 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 8997080)
no need for the Chiefs to start from scratch IMO. We have lots of pieces, just need a QB and Coach. Not small things, but I don't think the organizations philosophy is flawed.

New GM may mean new offensive and defensive schemes that require different types of players. Remember Gun wanting huge ass WR's and then DV wanting smaller quicker guys? If you want to actually build a team in the modern era your team needs a consistent identity and philosophy.
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/14...nover-off.html

Hammock Parties 10-09-2012 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 8997080)
no need for the Chiefs to start from scratch IMO.
There's no reason for any competent GM to look at this roster and think he needs to start from scratch.

For ****'s sake, Carl and Marty turned a ****ing loser into a winner IN ONE OFFSEASON.

DrunkBassGuitar 10-09-2012 07:45 PM
What the hell kind of name is Soren anyway?


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