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Canofbier 10-14-2013 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by oh_snap (Post 10084774)
Not saying rape is okay. It clearly is not. But what the hell is a 14 year old doing at a party, and why the hell did she get black out drunk? We can talk peer pressure, but no one made her get drunk (unless we're talking roofie drunk).

Back in college, I can remember false calls of rape happening a lot. Girls get drunk, sleep with someone they wouldn't normally sleep with, then cry rape the day after. Happened to a mate of mine. Nearly ruined his life as well. Then the girls story unraveled and she admitted finally that it was consensual.

Anyways, clearly a 14 year old shouldn't be out partying and drinking and getting drunk. You're just asking for trouble. Strong parenting.
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Originally Posted by oh_snap (Post 10084794)
You can prosecute the parents with a fine of some sort for their kids drinking underage. But I honestly think our laws are too leniant on minors. You make a dumb decision as a "minor", you should face the same consequences as if you were an adult.

Is murder any lesser of a crime because the person who murdered was under the age of 18? If you do the crime, you face the same punishment regardless of your age. That is the way it should be anyways.
I'm sure that you led a responsible, thoughtful and squeaky-clean life when you were a young teenager. Not. She was at a party because she's a teenage girl who wants to make friends and appear cool to her peers. She got blackout drunk because she has no idea how to drink responsibly yet.

It's scientific fact that people of that age haven't fully developed emotionally, mentally or physically, so I don't see the logic in expecting them to act as if they have.

WhiteWhale 10-14-2013 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by oh_snap (Post 10084774)
Not saying rape is okay. It clearly is not. But what the hell is a 14 year old doing at a party, and why the hell did she get black out drunk? We can talk peer pressure, but no one made her get drunk (unless we're talking roofie drunk).

Back in college, I can remember false calls of rape happening a lot. Girls get drunk, sleep with someone they wouldn't normally sleep with, then cry rape the day after. Happened to a mate of mine. Nearly ruined his life as well. Then the girls story unraveled and she admitted finally that it was consensual.

Anyways, clearly a 14 year old shouldn't be out partying and drinking and getting drunk. You're just asking for trouble. Strong parenting.
Read the article.

1. She was dumped off on her front lawn in freezing weather. That doesn't scream consensual anything.

2. They confessed.

I like how you make it all about her though. Those poor guys... they're the REAL victims huh?

Tombstone RJ 10-14-2013 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 10084823)
And your point is????
that when the rape allegedly happened the perp was 17 years of age or younger right? He was possibly 16? So he was under the age of 18 which is when a minor becomes a major or am I wrong?

WhiteWhale 10-14-2013 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by oh_snap (Post 10084794)
You can prosecute the parents with a fine of some sort for their kids drinking underage. But I honestly think our laws are too leniant on minors. You make a dumb decision as a "minor", you should face the same consequences as if you were an adult.

Is murder any lesser of a crime because the person who murdered was under the age of 18? If you do the crime, you face the same punishment regardless of your age. That is the way it should be anyways.
Holding children as accountable as adults is the 2nd dumbest thing you've posted on this thread.

I think I've figured out the problem.

It's you.

Tombstone RJ 10-14-2013 10:47 AM
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warpaint* 10-14-2013 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by oh_snap (Post 10084774)
Not saying rape is okay. It clearly is not. But what the hell is a 14 year old doing at a party, and why the hell did she get black out drunk? We can talk peer pressure, but no one made her get drunk (unless we're talking roofie drunk).

Back in college, I can remember false calls of rape happening a lot. Girls get drunk, sleep with someone they wouldn't normally sleep with, then cry rape the day after. Happened to a mate of mine. Nearly ruined his life as well. Then the girls story unraveled and she admitted finally that it was consensual.

Anyways, clearly a 14 year old shouldn't be out partying and drinking and getting drunk. You're just asking for trouble. Strong parenting.
I don't anybody would claim she didn't use poor judgement in terms of putting herself in a bad situation but that's aside to a bunch of kids from well connected families potentially getting away w/ multiple felonies.

Skyy God 10-14-2013 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10084833)
that when the rape allegedly happened the perp was 17 years of age or younger right? He was possibly 16? So he was under the age of 18 which is when a minor becomes a major or am I wrong?
Star article said he was 17. Not only was he above the age of consent, there's nothing in the MO statute (that I'm aware of) preventing a minor from being prosecuted for statutory. It's probably exceedingly rare, though.

Tombstone RJ 10-14-2013 10:48 AM
So tired of arguing this point, so very tired of it...

Tombstone RJ 10-14-2013 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 10084842)
Star article said he was 17. Not only was he above the age of consent, there's nothing in the MO statute (that I'm aware of) preventing a minor from being prosecuted for statutory. It's probably exceedingly rare, though.
But he was below the age of being able to legally drink? MO is stupid.

tooge 10-14-2013 10:51 AM
there is wrong all over this deal. However, if I'm the mother of rapist boy, hes getting his ball shot off at some point

Iowanian 10-14-2013 10:53 AM
At the very least making or possessing a video tape of a 13 or 14 year old girl having sex would be child pornography. High School seniors have no business banging 13 year old girls.

Skyy God 10-14-2013 10:53 AM
Small town values, amirite!! They need to Dresden that town.

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IA_Chiefs_fan 10-14-2013 10:56 AM
The girl may be a little void of strong parenting, but not necessarily due to neglect. Unless I'm confusing two stories, my wife told me her dad was a doctor who died not too long ago in a car wreck. This is so sad.

warpaint* 10-14-2013 10:57 AM
Ya the article mentions that.

Skyy God 10-14-2013 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan (Post 10084876)
The girl may be a little void of strong parenting, but not necessarily due to neglect. Unless I'm confusing two stories, my wife told me her dad was a doctor who died not too long ago in a car wreck. This is so sad.
And her mother was a vet. It's not like she came from an obviously dysfunctional family background.


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