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BigMeatballDave 11-06-2015 05:14 PM

I just finished Freebasing Confectioners!

penguinz 11-06-2015 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11867384)
I just finished Freebasing Confectioners!

You are a ****ing moron. Go ahead and rot your teeth out.

Be a real man and inject.

Mr. Laz 11-06-2015 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 11867126)
And Agave is even higher in Fructose yet pimped as a healthy sugar alternative.

:hmmm:

I thought Agave was all-natural and not processed.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-06-2015 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11867394)
:hmmm:

I thought Agave was all-natural and not processed.

Fructose is not an artificial product. It's a naturally occurring hexose sugar. Fructose content alone is not indicative of processing.

BigMeatballDave 11-06-2015 06:31 PM

Why is Fructose considered to be unhealthy compared to other natural sugars?

Mr. Laz 11-06-2015 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11867459)
Why is Fructose considered to be unhealthy compared to other natural sugars?

because it's processed and partially broken down already


That means it hits your bloodstream faster and all at once, you body reacts different to that "rush" of sugar. Your body thinks you are exercising so it stores fat etc. Causes weight gain and all sorts of issues that natural sugars don't. Process sugar also has addictive traits because of the rush, you body will crave more after rush burns off. You ever feel hungry even though your stomach is stuffed? That's caused by the sugar craving of processed sugar.

Fruit juice from concentrate is also processed, so it's not good for you either.

avoid 'from concentrate' and other processed sugars

RobBlake 11-06-2015 07:15 PM

eat what you want with balance. Obviously choosing healthy/exercising as number one options and live

Mr. Laz 11-06-2015 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RobBlake (Post 11867502)
eat what you want with balance. Obviously choosing healthy/exercising as number one options and live

No offense but i hear this bullshit every time the subject is broached.

Processed sugar triggers cravings that makes it more difficult to eat in moderation. So that old school, tough guy bullshit about 'just moderation' doesn't work for a lot of people.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-06-2015 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11867500)
because it's processed and partially broken down already


That means it hits your bloodstream faster and all at once, you body reacts different to that "rush" of sugar. Your body thinks you are exercising so it stores fat etc. Causes weight gain and all sorts of issues that natural sugars don't. Process sugar also has addictive traits because of the rush, you body will crave more after rush burns off. You ever feel hungry even though your stomach is stuffed? That's caused by the sugar craving of processed sugar.

Fruit juice from concentrate is also processed, so it's not good for you either.

avoid 'from concentrate' and other processed sugars

Your conclusions are generally accurate, but some of the points in here are a little off.

It's not related to processing. Fructose is not processed. Fructose is a naturally-occurring sugar. HFCS is an example of a processed sugar.

Fructose is not already broken down. It's chemical structure is merely different than glucose. Consequently, it is metabolized differently.

Both sugars have the formula C6H12O6. The difference is that fructose is a ketose sugar that exists as part of a five membered ring and glucose is an aldose sugar that exists as part of a six membered ring. This means that the two molecules interact with enzymes differently.

We all have various regulatory systems in our bodies that ensure we function optimally. Glycolysis, like all metabolic processes, has rate limiting steps. So even if we consume a ton of glucose, our body can only process it so quickly. Fructose is metabolized by a slightly different pathway without as many brakes on the system, comparatively.

This is a little reductive, I apologize, but without getting too "inside baseball" this is why.

penguinz 11-06-2015 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11867394)
:hmmm:

I thought Agave was all-natural and not processed.

It has to be heated a processed to become the goo you buy at the store.

Spott 11-06-2015 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11867059)
I just had honey in my coffee and it was a truly awful experience.

Just lower your sugar intake to a moderate amount around roughly 15-20 grams a day.

I'm admittedly a coffee snob, so I tend to brew a lot of Starbucks at home as well as using honey that I either get at Whole Foods or another local retailer. If you try regular coffee (Maxwell House, Folgers, etc.) with packets of honey it doesn't taste too well. Agave does seem to taste better with coffee, imo.

RunKC 11-06-2015 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 11867730)
I'm admittedly a coffee snob, so I tend to brew a lot of Starbucks at home as well as using honey that I either get at Whole Foods or another local retailer. If you try regular coffee (Maxwell House, Folgers, etc.) with packets of honey it doesn't taste too well. Agave does seem to taste better with coffee, imo.

I actually get my coffee from whole foods bc I love their Italian Roast.

I have narrowed it down to only having sugar with my coffee as my only intake of sugar. I can't go cold turkey and I'm perfectly fine eating fruit during the day to keep myself from an added sugar binge.

I can't give up sugar. But I think I can significantly reduce my amount and be fine. Right now I'm at around 12 grams (3 teaspoon's) of sugar a day, which is 1/3 the daily recommended amount.

I think that's perfectly fine.

cdcox 11-06-2015 10:36 PM

I made rice crispy treats tonight. I'm proud to report that I made them with no sugar added.

BigMeatballDave 11-07-2015 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 11867817)
I made rice crispy treats tonight. I'm proud to report that I made them with no sugar added.

Bet they tasted like ass. :)

penguinz 11-07-2015 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 11867730)
I'm admittedly a coffee snob, so I tend to brew a lot of Starbucks at home as well as using honey that I either get at Whole Foods or another local retailer. If you try regular coffee (Maxwell House, Folgers, etc.) with packets of honey it doesn't taste too well. Agave does seem to taste better with coffee, imo.

If you are a coffee snob you would not be brewing Starbucks. Their beans are no where near snobbery.


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