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KChiefs1 03-11-2018 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 13457575)
http://walterfootball.com/combine2018QB.php



Josh Allen's velocity was clocked at 62 MPH



Mayfield's was 60 MPH



Rosen's was 59 MPH



Lamar Jackson's was 49 MPH



Good read on velocity.

https://twitter.com/markschofield/st...374028800?s=21

KChiefs1 03-12-2018 11:17 AM

Buffalo guy was on with Petro & he said they want Darnold or Rosen in the draft.

Sounds like Cleveland is going to end up with a lot of the Bills draft picks if they want to trade with them.

Chiefnj2 03-12-2018 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 13457575)
http://walterfootball.com/combine2018QB.php

Josh Allen's velocity was clocked at 62 MPH

Mayfield's was 60 MPH

Rosen's was 59 MPH

Lamar Jackson's was 49 MPH


Last year for comparison sake:

Patrick Mahomes, Texas Tech, 55 (Left), 55 (Right)

Nathan Peterman, Pittsburgh, 49 (Left), 49 (Right)

Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina, 51 (Left), 50 (Right)

Deshaun Watson, Clemson, 45 (Left), 45 (Right)

Davis Webb, California, 56 (Left), 54 (Right)

Tribal Warfare 03-12-2018 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 13462863)
Last year for comparison sake:

Patrick Mahomes, Texas Tech, 55 (Left), 55 (Right)

Nathan Peterman, Pittsburgh, 49 (Left), 49 (Right)

Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina, 51 (Left), 50 (Right)

Deshaun Watson, Clemson, 45 (Left), 45 (Right)

Davis Webb, California, 56 (Left), 54 (Right)

Mahomes was clocked at 60 MPH at the combine and 62 on the NFLN passing with David Carr

Chiefnj2 03-16-2018 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 13463700)
Mahomes was clocked at 60 MPH at the combine and 62 on the NFLN passing with David Carr

http://blogs.ourlads.com/2017/03/16/...ine-2008-2015/

Has Mahomes at 55 left and right.

Tribal Warfare 03-16-2018 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 13472364)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HbXhUHIFRkg

Do you believe hearsay numbers or the video

Chiefnj2 03-16-2018 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 13472367)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HbXhUHIFRkg

Do you believe hearsay numbers or the video

I'll take the numbers from the combine over a makeshift NFL network set.

Tribal Warfare 03-16-2018 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 13472418)
I'll take the numbers from the combine over a makeshift NFL network set.

https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/patrick-mahomes/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LqYN8IWNE2w

KChiefs1 03-19-2018 10:35 PM

These are my own rankings and will be different from the mainstream media. All of my top 8 have some starter qualities and have a chance of being a starting QB in the NFL imo.

After watching 5+ games on the top 10 QB prospects here is how I would rank them:

1) Sam Darnold (Grade 87, top ten prospect)
- Pros: accuracy, progression ability, ability to extend plays, pocket presence, mobility, clutch, leader, qb persona, arm strength, winner, can make throws in tight windows, size
- Cons: turnovers, unusual delivery, sometimes fooled by coverages, not always consistent with deep ball.

2) Josh Rosen (Grade 85, top ten prospect)
- Pros: Accuracy at all three levels, great understanding of the game, progression ability, pocket presence, arm strength, ability to throw in tight windows, intelligent, size, quick release
- Cons: Durability, few head scratching turnovers, mobility.

3) Baker Mayfield (Grade 82, 1st round prospect)
- Pros: deadly short and intermediate accuracy, clutch, creates energy, leader, winner, arm strength, mobility, moves around pocket well, progression ability, senior
-Cons: size, sometimes misses throwing lanes, size sometimes limits him from stepping up in the pocket, inconsistent deep ball accuracy, occasionally throws late b/c of big arm.

4) Mike White (Grade 78, 2nd round prospect)
-Pros: Accuracy at all three levels, arm strength, progression ability, throws with anticipation, shows ability to step up in the pocket, senior, size
- Cons: Will have to master moving around the pocket because of very limited mobility, sometimes slow going through reads, takes sacks too often.

5) Mason Rudolph (Grade 77, 2nd round prospect)
- Pros: Accuracy, progression ability, pocket presence, senior, QB persona, size
- Cons: Mobility, arm strength

6) Josh Allen (Grade 77, 2nd round prospect)
-Pros: Elite arm strength, makes wow throws with arm strength and accuracy that only he can make, tough, competitive, mobility, size, may have arm talent to overcome deficiencies
-Cons: Does not seem to process the game, misses open WRs, drops eyes to early and runs, misses routine throws, accuracy declines after 1st read, poor statistics.

7) Lamar Jackson (Grade 75, 3rd round prospect)
- Pros: Elite running ability, quick release, makes wow plays every game, show ability to go through progressions, escapability, extends plays
-Cons: Very inconsistent accuracy, lots of over throws on tape, ugly turnovers.

8) Logan Woodside (Grade 73, 4th round prospect)
-Pros: Senior, unmatchable work ethic, football intelligence, quick processor, accurate at all three levels, raises level of play of his teammates, quick release, progression ability, pocket presence
- Cons: may not have enough arm strength to be NFL starter, size

Other QBs that will likely be drafted late in the draft (I consider them developmental back ups): Lauletta, Falk, Benkert, Litton.

B_Ambuehl 03-21-2018 11:30 AM

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6) Josh Allen (Grade 77, 2nd round prospect)
-Pros: Elite arm strength, makes wow throws with arm strength and accuracy that only he can make, tough, competitive, mobility, size, may have arm talent to overcome deficiencies
-Cons: Does not seem to process the game, misses open WRs, drops eyes to early and runs, misses routine throws, accuracy declines after 1st read, poor statistics.
Definitely agree with you here. Allen is getting a lot of false hype IMO.

If i was picking a QB to play Madden with it would be Rosen. But for a team like Cleveland, that can't afford any more mistakes, I'd go with Darnold.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-21-2018 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 13472418)
I'll take the numbers from the combine over a makeshift NFL network set.

Well the numbers at the combine had Mahomes at 59, so you’re off either way.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-21-2018 11:49 AM

Darnold struggling to throw down field in the rain at his pro day.

Tribal Warfare 03-21-2018 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13481742)
Well the numbers at the combine had Mahomes at 59, so you’re off either way.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ball velocity numbers (MPH) from the Combine:<br><br>60 - Mahomes<br>59 - Webb<br>56 - Kizer<br>55 - Trubisky, Evans<br>53 - Peterman, Kaaya<br>49 - Watson</p>&mdash; Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) <a href="https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/840334987958329346?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 10, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

pugsnotdrugs19 03-21-2018 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 13482177)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ball velocity numbers (MPH) from the Combine:<br><br>60 - Mahomes<br>59 - Webb<br>56 - Kizer<br>55 - Trubisky, Evans<br>53 - Peterman, Kaaya<br>49 - Watson</p>&mdash; Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) <a href="https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/840334987958329346?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 10, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Excuse me, yes it was 60. I knew he either tied or broke the record as far back as it goes.

Tribal Warfare 03-21-2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13482182)
Excuse me, yes it was 60. I knew he either tied or broke the record as far back as it goes.

I apologize that I Mahomoed out, but he's our guy by hell or high water.


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