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ThyKingdomCome15 03-21-2023 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16867457)
So you'd rather use our 1 on a WR then?

Don't need to.

htismaqe 03-21-2023 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16867472)
The last thing you wanna do is pigeon hole yourself into, we have to take a WR first.

Exactly.

htismaqe 03-21-2023 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16867476)
Don't need to.

So you're thinking that the Chiefs should draft someone in the 3rd-4th range and he'll immediately contribute? Like Skyy Moore did?

If they want immediate impact, they'll take a guy in the first 2 rounds. They're not done signing vets yet, you can bet on that.

DJ's left nut 03-21-2023 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16867448)

So personally, I don't have a problem with paying him $19M/$14M (restructured, of course) for the next two seasons (I'm of course assuming he'd be healthy).

The draft capital is a little different. If KC wasn't in serious need of both a quality OT and EDGE this season, I wouldn't have much trouble giving up even a 2nd, because the 64th pick isn't that great anyway. But we are in that spot, so it's tougher to be okay with a 2nd. A 3rd (96th?), I've already said a couple times in this thread I'd do that. There's no one in this draft that's going to come close to replicating what DHop can do in 2023. Maybe we draft a guy that grows into a great WR by 2024 or 2025. But that's still a roll of the dice. There's a better than even chance that doesn't happen.

So I'd give up a second and pay him $26 million over 2.

You'd give up a 3rd and pay him $33 million.

Aren't we just arguing semantics at this point because to my eyes our value of him differs in the margins of it differs at all.

Mecca 03-21-2023 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16867476)
Don't need to.

If they make no moves then yea they do, this WR room is really bad at the moment...which is why they will do something because so far Veach has always tried to avoid being pigeon holed like that.

It's kinda funny to me how some of you don't realize the WR room as it sits today is not good.

ThyKingdomCome15 03-21-2023 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16867466)
You can do that for other players too. Nnadi, O'Daniel or Watts.

Veach those were the early days of Brett Veach. He's a seasoned wizard now.

Mecca 03-21-2023 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16867480)
So you're thinking that the Chiefs should draft someone in the 3rd-4th range and he'll immediately contribute? Like Skyy Moore did?

If they want immediate impact, they'll take a guy in the first 2 rounds. They're not done signing vets yet, you can bet on that.

Apparently Skyy Moore is just going to magically become Golden Tate, Toney will never get hurt again and MVS will become consistent after well never being consistent in his entire career!

ModSocks 03-21-2023 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16867476)
Don't need to.

Yeah, **** it. Who needs a football team. Mahomes can just throw it to himself.

Mecca 03-21-2023 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16867484)
Veach those were the early days of Brett Veach. He's a seasoned wizard now.

Josh Kaindoh 4th round pick 2 years ago.

ModSocks 03-21-2023 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16867482)
If they make no moves then yea they do, this WR room is really bad at the moment...which is why they will do something because so far Veach has always tried to avoid being pigeon holed like that.

It's kinda funny to me how some of you don't realize the WR room as it sits today is not good.

Even if you're the biggest Skyy Moore homer, they don't have freakin' bodies to fill the room right now LMAO

Mecca 03-21-2023 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16867493)
Even if you're the biggest Skyy Moore homer, they don't have freakin' bodies to fill the room right now LMAO

When people bring up the Ross' that just speaks to thinking everything will turn to rainbows.

htismaqe 03-21-2023 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16867484)
Veach those were the early days of Brett Veach. He's a seasoned wizard now.

Such a seasoned wizard that our 2nd round pick WR had 33 whole targets.

The way you are looking at this isn't realistic at all.

ThyKingdomCome15 03-21-2023 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16867482)
If they make no moves then yea they do, this WR room is really bad at the moment...which is why they will do something because so far Veach has always tried to avoid being pigeon holed like that.

It's kinda funny to me how some of you don't realize the WR room as it sits today is not good.

Mahomes lead the league in passing last year with the same guys, minus Juju.

And let's be honest, there were a lot of times we didn't even know Juju was on the field. Dude had his moments though.

raybec 4 03-21-2023 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16867485)
Apparently Skyy Moore is just going to magically become Golden Tate, Toney will never get hurt again and MVS will become consistent after well never being consistent in his entire career!

The Ross boys are going to show out!!!

htismaqe 03-21-2023 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16867503)
Mahomes lead the league in passing last year with the same guys, minus Juju.

And let's be honest, there were a lot of times we didn't even know Juju was on the field. Dude had his moments though.

Yeah, let's put it all on Mahomes. Then when retires due to injury at 32, we can all cry in hindsight about them not surrounding him with more weapons.


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