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Rain Man 05-17-2019 10:20 AM

Least Deserving Hall of Famers: NY Giants
 
VOTE FOR THREE.

With all of the talk about undeserving people in the Hall of Fame, I thought it might be interesting to identify the absolute least deserving people in the Hall of Fame.

I'll do this first for players, identifying the least deserving players by team, and then we'll do a heat or two for non-players.

Poll coming in less time than it takes for Archie Manning to interfere in the draft to benefit his son.

You can read profiles of the players here, in a very unfriendly format on the HoF site: https://www.profootballhof.com/heroe...me/franchises/

Rules note: If a team has less than 10 HoFers, I'll combine them with another team to get to that number.

Rain Man 05-17-2019 10:27 AM

I know more of these guys, but this is another list that will take some research. I've never heard of Ken Strong.

Rain Man 05-17-2019 11:35 AM

I do already have two of my guys picked out. Harry Carson is such a crybaby that he's out, and I still hold a grudge about Favre taking a dive for Strahan.

Dunerdr 05-17-2019 11:51 AM

i dont have shit for input as i didnt become an nfl fan until around 2001, but thanks for taking time out to make these rain man.

Deberg_1990 05-17-2019 12:13 PM

Eli Manning

Rams Fan 05-17-2019 03:18 PM

Lawrence Taylor.

eDave 05-17-2019 03:24 PM

Yea, where's Eli on this list?

Bump 05-17-2019 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 14273416)
Lawrence Taylor.

lol, he's the most deserving.

Rain Man 05-17-2019 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14273093)
Eli Manning

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 14273425)
Yea, where's Eli on this list?

Archie has not yet demanded that the Hall of Fame admit Eli.

Rain Man 05-17-2019 06:22 PM

Okay, my reviews:

Tuffy Leemans. I'm not seeing it. He played 8 seasons in the NFL, and is in the Hall of Pretty Good. He was a first- or second-string all league guy for six seasons, and it seems like he played some defense, but I'm not seeing it. He's at risk.

Andy Robustelli. 7 time pro bowler and won the award as the league's best player in 1962. (Not sure if that means MVP or something else, but I think it's MVP since Patrick Mahomes II won it this year.) The old days were weird because he played both WR and DE, and since the team that drafted him (Rams) were strong at WR, he became a DE full time. Seems good and the MVP award scores him major points, even though I can't see much else that wows me.

Bennie Friedman - He was the Patrick Mahomes II of the late 1920s, leading the league's best offenses during that time. He was the NFL career passing leader until Sammy Baugh passed him in 1947. He only played eight years, and it sounds like he was only dominating for four of those. Is that worth a spot? Not sure.

Emlen Tunnell - 79 interceptions in 14 seasons, ranked 79th on NFL Network's Top 100 players of all time list. He passes muster.

Frank Gifford - Made the pro bowl at three positions - defensive back, running back, and flanker. NFL MVP one year, and boinked the USC homecoming queen in college. Seems like he was a really good player, but I'm not overly wowed. I think he's kind of a HoFer.

Harry Carson - Above average inside linebacker who got to play next to Lawrence Taylor. Whined and moaned and complained until the HoF finally let him in just to shut his girlie a** up. Screw this poser.

Ken Strong - I can't figure him out. Everything I read just says that he was an outstanding all-around player. He seems like the kind of guy you'd want in the two-way era. Played 14 seasons, with the last four as a full-time placekicker. Running back mostly before that. Meh.

Lawrence Taylor - We all know Lawrence Taylor. Whether you were Ron Jaworski or a 16 year-old hooker, he was going to come in hard and pound you. He changed the game.

Mel Hein - Multiple all-pro for the Giants at the center position, often ranked among the top 100 players of all time. Played 15 years, never missed a game, NFL MVP in 1938. I wonder if another center has ever been the MVP. Part of the first class of the HoF. He gets a pass.

Michael Strahan - We know him. While I think the Brett Favre dive was a travesty, Strahan had 140.5 legitimate sacks, which is pretty good. The dive is really more Brett Favre's fault than Strahan's.

Red Badgro - Played in the NFL for a year, quit and played MLB for two years, then came back to the NFL for eight more years. Apparently had a knack for key plays as a WR, though it's notable that he led the NFL in receptions in 1934 with 16 catches. So maybe every catch was a big play. Not seeing the allure here.

Roosevelt Brown - Big offensive tackle renowned for a Michelangelo body (29 inch waist on a 255 pound body). All-NFL team eight times in 13 seasons. Not sure what else to say. Seems like he was good.

Sam Huff - All state in high school, all American in college. Almost quit football in training camp when the Giants coach couldn't figure out how to play him, so they moved him from the line to linebacker. First NFL player to appear on the cover of Time Magazine. Recorded 30 interceptions. But I've heard that he was overrated after being the center of a documentary called "The Violent World of Sam Huff". Hall of Pretty Good.

Y.A. Tittle - Part of the 49ers' Million Dollar Backfield, and the first NFL player on the cover of Sports Illustrated. Twice set the single-season record for touchdown passes during his career, and led the Giants to three straight championship games (losing all of them, though). 17 seasons in the NFL or AAFC. Two time NFL MVP.

Rain Man 05-17-2019 06:26 PM

My conclusion is that the Giants benefited a lot from New York media coverage. Their list is mostly guys from the Hall of Pretty Good. I'd kick a bunch of these guys out, but the three least deserving are:

1. Harry Carson - Screw that crybaby.

2. Red Badgro - Not that long a career, not an overwhelming guy during those years.

3. Tuffy Leemans - Hall of Pretty good.

AssEaterChief 05-17-2019 10:55 PM

LOL What is with all the Carson hate??

You realize he made two pro bowls before Taylor was even on the team right?

oldman 05-18-2019 07:48 AM

I'm surprised to see Tittle on this list as most of his salad years were as a 49er, but he was the real deal. Taylor and Strahan are Hofers. Sam Huff was one of the hardest hitters I ever saw play - he good. Robustelli and Brown were aces, so I'm OK with them. Gifford probably got as much attention for his off the field activities as his game days. Think Broadway Joe in the late 60s. That said, I did enjoy seeing his ass get pounded by the Colts in the 1958 championship game.

BWillie 05-18-2019 08:16 AM

Soon to be Eli Manning

EPodolak 05-18-2019 04:47 PM

Most of those names :shrug:

Clearly that team has been around awhile.


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