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DaWolf 02-08-2013 09:43 AM

Andy Reid on Metro Sports...
 
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I linked this in the other thread from the Star article, but was unable to embed it last night. Thought it might deserve its own thread, especially since we're starving for Chiefs stuff right now. Good interview, and interesting stuff on the QB position...

The Franchise 02-08-2013 10:46 AM

Nice to know that he trusts his scouts and his GM. Doesn't listen to the talking heads at the big networks.

King_Chief_Fan 02-08-2013 10:56 AM

Do the right thing for the Kansas City Chiefs.....that sounds good

ModSocks 02-08-2013 11:03 AM

Sounds he like he's drafting Geno to me.

He wants a QB that gives his teammates an opportunity to make a play.

Is that Matt Cassel? No.

Alex Smith? No.

Flynn? No.

Luke Jackoff? Hell no.

bevischief 02-08-2013 11:07 AM

It 's great to hear something intelligent from the head coach.

The Franchise 02-08-2013 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9387096)
Sounds he like he's drafting Geno to me.

He wants a QB that gives his teammates an opportunity to make a play.

Is that Matt Cassel? No.

Alex Smith? No.

Flynn? No.

Luke Jackoff? Hell no.

It at least sounds like he's taking a QB with that first pick.

keg in kc 02-08-2013 11:17 AM

He must've been making the rounds yesterday, I saw a promo for an interview on KCTV5 while I was watching Elementary this morning.

PhillyChiefFan 02-08-2013 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 9387099)
It 's great to hear something intelligent from the head coach.

You mean "you play to win the game" isn't good enough? What more do you want?? :D

Dayze 02-08-2013 12:38 PM

play good football


eliminate bad football

I mean, 'boom'.

DaWolf 02-08-2013 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9387105)
It at least sounds like he's taking a QB with that first pick.

Or trading that first pick if anyone bites and then thinking QB...

Infidel Goat 02-08-2013 01:05 PM

Heh. I haven't seen Dave Stewart in years, but he looks a lot like Dana Carvey now...

DaneMcCloud 02-08-2013 01:19 PM

"Whether we stay there OR trade back".

That certainly doesn't scream "QB #1 overall".

RustShack 02-08-2013 01:24 PM

Did Geno win a lot of games? ... Stanzi did :(

Rasputin 02-08-2013 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 9387084)
Do the right thing for the Kansas City Chiefs.....that sounds good

It's his cliche as he did for the Philidelphia Eagles. Chiefs fans will eat it up much as anything else, but unless it's drafting QB with the #1 pick then he is fos.

ModSocks 02-08-2013 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9387501)
"Whether we stay there OR trade back".

That certainly doesn't scream "QB #1 overall".

You're looking for reasons to NOT believe just as much as people who are looking for reasons to believe.

Reid saying that they might stay or might not stay where they are means nothing. It's just coach speak that we here from every coach/GM every year.

His description of what he wants in a QB doesn't necessarily mean Geno, but it does imply that these "leftover" QB's isn't what Reid is after. Imo, his description of what he's after in a QB is more telling than "i might or might not move back"

DaneMcCloud 02-08-2013 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9387539)
You're looking for reasons to NOT believe just as much as people who are looking for reasons to believe.

Bullshit

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9387539)
Reid saying that they might stay or might not stay where they are means nothing. It's just coach speak that we here from every coach/GM every year.

Uh, no.

Coaches with the top pick in the draft that NEED a QB don't play games.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9387539)
His description of what he wants in a QB doesn't necessarily mean Geno, but it does imply that these "leftover" QB's isn't what Reid is after. Imo, his description of what he's after in a QB is more telling than "i might or might not move back"

You're misinterpreting his words.

That is NOT what he said, at all. He said that footwork, throwing, etc. don't mean much to him. What DOES matter is that the QB elevates the play of those around him.

Again, he also said very clearly that he'll do what's best for the Chiefs, whether that's staying at #1 or moving back.

BigMeatballDave 02-08-2013 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9387501)
"Whether we stay there OR trade back".

That certainly doesn't scream "QB #1 overall".

It doesn't scream anything.

DaneMcCloud 02-08-2013 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9387599)
It doesn't scream anything.

Exactly.

DeezNutz 02-08-2013 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9387549)
That is NOT what he said, at all. He said that footwork, throwing, etc. don't mean much to him. What DOES matter is that the QB elevates the play of those around him.

Again, he also said very clearly that he'll do what's best for the Chiefs, whether that's staying at #1 or moving back.

Bold is not accurate. He was alluding to all of the particulars that add up to making a QB effective. But he was giving an otherwise reductive answer that he wants a QB to win games and elevate the play of others.

He was being purposefully pointed because he noted that he was going to (paraphrasing) "make this quick."

B14ckmon 02-08-2013 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 9387510)
Did Geno win a lot of games? ... Stanzi did :(

Stanzi made Gabbert look like Joe Montana in comparison in the Insight Bowl. He was awful.

DaneMcCloud 02-08-2013 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9387700)
Bold is not accurate. He was alluding to all of the particulars that add up to making a QB effective. But he was giving an otherwise reductive answer that he wants a QB to win games and elevate the play of others.

He was being purposefully pointed because he noted that he was going to (paraphrasing) "make this quick."

Here's exactly what he said:

The skill that is most important is that he wins football games.

The great ones makes everyone around them better. They make everyone's game come up.

Look, I'm making it short and sweet for you. We're not talking about the intangibles that go into it, we're not talking about the reads on time, we're not talking about the footwork, the arm strength, the hands, all those things.

The bottom line is that guy doesn't have to the prettiest, but does he give you an opportunity to win football games and does he allow his players around him to raise their game up and go do that.


DeezNutz 02-08-2013 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9387769)
Here's exactly what he said:

The skill that is most important is that he wins football games.

The great ones makes everyone around them better. They make everyone's game come up.

Look, I'm making it short and sweet for you. We're not talking about the intangibles that go into it, we're not talking about the reads on time, we're not talking about the footwork, the arm strength, the hands, all those things.

The bottom line is that guy doesn't have to the prettiest, but does he give you an opportunity to win football games and does he allow his players around him to raise their game up and go do that.


He's not discounting the importance of footwork, etc., at all, IMO. He's simply "making it short and sweet" in his response.

There are obviously a hell of a lot of specific details that allow a QB to win games and elevate the play of others.

Molitoth 02-08-2013 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9387769)
Here's exactly what he said:

The skill that is most important is that he wins football games.

The great ones makes everyone around them better. They make everyone's game come up.

Look, I'm making it short and sweet for you. We're not talking about the intangibles that go into it, we're not talking about the reads on time, we're not talking about the footwork, the arm strength, the hands, all those things.

The bottom line is that guy doesn't have to the prettiest, but does he give you an opportunity to win football games and does he allow his players around him to raise their game up and go do that.


Sounds like Geno Smith to me.

BradBigglestein 02-08-2013 04:22 PM

Andy Reid loves to move around in drafts, so I wouldn't completely rule out trading down for you guys. If you look at Reid's history in early rounds of drafts, he loves to move up and down.

Draft days are going to be exciting for you guys. If anyone here is a person who just tunes in around the approximate time the Chiefs are supposed to pick, that isn't going to work with Reid. You have to watch the whole draft, because he's always itching to make a move.

ModSocks 02-08-2013 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9387549)
Bullshit



Uh, no.

Coaches with the top pick in the draft that NEED a QB don't play games.



You're misinterpreting his words.

That is NOT what he said, at all. He said that footwork, throwing, etc. don't mean much to him. What DOES matter is that the QB elevates the play of those around him.

Again, he also said very clearly that he'll do what's best for the Chiefs, whether that's staying at #1 or moving back.

1st, no it's not BS. You've been entertaining the idea that the Chiefs may not draft a QB in the 1st since Reid has been hired. You've said so yourself.

2nd, coaches don't give coach speak on who they'll draft? Especially this early? Yes, they do **** around plenty. Especially in February. The fact that he stated, "hey i might stay, i might move down" means nothing in February. Nothing.

3rd, im not sure what you're arguing here. I stated that he isn't describing Alex Smith or Matt Flynn at all. Do you believe Alex Smith a is QB who elevates the play of those around him? Once again, from his description, he's not talking about any of the QB's n this F/A class.

DaneMcCloud 02-08-2013 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9387822)
He's not discounting the importance of footwork, etc., at all, IMO. He's simply "making it short and sweet" in his response.

There are obviously a hell of a lot of specific details that allow a QB to win games and elevate the play of others.

I took his entire response to mean that the "prettiest girl in the room" isn't necessarily what he looks for when evaluating quarterbacks.

Now, that could mean any number of things but it seems like he won't shy away from a guy with warts, as long as he's a winner and leader of men.

ModSocks 02-08-2013 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9387935)
I took his entire response to mean that the "prettiest girl in the room" isn't necessarily what he looks for when evaluating quarterbacks.

Now, that could mean any number of things but it seems like he won't shy away from a guy with warts, as long as he's a winner and leader of men.

Right, now does that describe the F/A Qb class?

DaneMcCloud 02-08-2013 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9387938)
Right, now does that describe the F/A Qb class?

Who said anything about free agency? Not me. Not Dave Stewart. Not Andy Reid.

Who?

BlackHelicopters 02-08-2013 04:48 PM

Reid is Stanzi's uncle.

Tribal Warfare 02-08-2013 04:53 PM

Cassel's jersey still in the background of the set

ModSocks 02-08-2013 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9387954)
Who said anything about free agency? Not me. Not Dave Stewart. Not Andy Reid.

Who?

Me?

I stated that it sounds like he's drafting a QB because his description does not fit any QB in the F/A class.

So by deduction, he may be looking at a QB like Geno Smith. He certainly isn't looking at Alex Smith or Matt Cassel. At least not if he's being truthful, which i believe he is.

crazycoffey 02-08-2013 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9387769)
Here's exactly what he said:

The skill that is most important is that he wins football games.

The great ones makes everyone around them better. They make everyone's game come up.

Look, I'm making it short and sweet for you. We're not talking about the intangibles that go into it, we're not talking about the reads on time, we're not talking about the footwork, the arm strength, the hands, all those things.

The bottom line is that guy doesn't have to the prettiest, but does he give you an opportunity to win football games and does he allow his players around him to raise their game up and go do that.


so now we're getting tebow? FML

SAUTO 02-08-2013 05:55 PM

Indy played some games last year prior to the draft
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DeezNutz 02-08-2013 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9387935)
I took his entire response to mean that the "prettiest girl in the room" isn't necessarily what he looks for when evaluating quarterbacks.

Now, that could mean any number of things but it seems like he won't shy away from a guy with warts, as long as he's a winner and leader of men.

I see where you're coming from now. And, yeah, this seems entirely plausible to me.

DaneMcCloud 02-08-2013 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9388050)
I see where you're coming from now. And, yeah, this seems entirely plausible to me.

It's plausible, but I still don't know what exactly it means.

:D

Does it mean that guys like Philip Rivers and Bernie Kosar, two "winning" QB's with "weird" deliveries would pass the test? That he's not worried about "correctable" things like footwork and delivery, as long as the guy is a leader that can will his team to victory?

If that's the case, and I'm not stating that it is, because he wasn't specific enough to state unequivocally, that would seem to open the door to many QB's in the upcoming draft.

The Combines can't get here soon enough for me.

SAUTO 02-08-2013 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9388059)

The Combines can't get here soon enough for me.

I agree. This shit is getting old.
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crazycoffey 02-08-2013 07:29 PM

He was saying, after making it short and sweet, that it's not intangibles, arm strength, etc. But he ended it with cutting himself off from saying hand size.

Interesting point, that is all.....

crazycoffey 02-08-2013 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9387769)
Here's exactly what he said:

The skill that is most important is that he wins football games.

The great ones makes everyone around them better. They make everyone's game come up.

Look, I'm making it short and sweet for you. We're not talking about the intangibles that go into it, we're not talking about the reads on time, we're not talking about the footwork, the arm strength, the hands, all those things.

The bottom line is that guy doesn't have to the prettiest, but does he give you an opportunity to win football games and does he allow his players around him to raise their game up and go do that.



yeah, bolded part. Listened to a couple more times and it really sounds like he was starting to say hand size, not the hands. Not that it's really a big difference, but..... not saying it's the aliens, but it's the aliens.

The Bad Guy 02-08-2013 07:56 PM

See ya Cassel.

TribalElder 02-08-2013 08:00 PM

No game managers

milkman 02-08-2013 09:56 PM

Are we sure that wasn't Wilford Brimley?

kcxiv 02-08-2013 10:17 PM

He said there was alot of energy with Drafting McNabb and there will be with this first pick! if its at all true, there is no way we take Luke. There is absolutely no energy there with that pick! If they do draft him, its going to be Cleveland stadium with the Factory of Sadness.

DaneMcCloud 02-08-2013 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 9388526)
He said there was alot of energy with Drafting McNabb and there will be with this first pick! if its at all true, there is no way we take Luke. There is absolutely no energy there with that pick! If they do draft him, its going to be Cleveland stadium with the Factory of Sadness.

He was referring to "energy" in the Eagles draft room.

Eagles fans hated the pick.

BossChief 02-08-2013 10:26 PM

Is it possible that he is indirectly taking a shot at Geno Smith with the "will his team to victory" line? Lets face it, WV was only 7-6.

kcxiv 02-08-2013 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9388540)
He was referring to "energy" in the Eagles draft room.

Eagles fans hated the pick.

Then thats even better. Lets keep that same energy and get that qb. lol

milkman 02-08-2013 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9388543)
Is it possible that he is indirectly taking a shot at Geno Smith with the "will his team to victory" line? Lets face it, WV was only 7-6.

Doubt it.
The college game is different.

-King- 02-08-2013 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9388543)
Is it possible that he is indirectly taking a shot at Geno Smith with the "will his team to victory" line? Lets face it, WV was only 7-6.

No.
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Ebolapox 02-08-2013 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9388543)
Is it possible that he is indirectly taking a shot at Geno Smith with the "will his team to victory" line? Lets face it, WV was only 7-6.

pretty sure that donovan mcnabb was on some shitty syracuse teams

DaneMcCloud 02-08-2013 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 9388556)
pretty sure that donovan mcnabb was on some shitty syracuse teams

I never understood the McNabb love. I always thought he was just barely good enough.

Reid must have thought so as well or the Eagles wouldn't have spent a second rounder on Feely in 2001 or on Kolb or Kafka, etc.

Ebolapox 02-08-2013 10:43 PM

eh, he was a good QB, not a great QB. at his peak, he was good enough to win you some playoff games. that's a shit-ton better than we've had in a LONG time, but I want for us to hoist some lombardi trophies. let's hope we can get better than 'good'

RyFo18 02-08-2013 10:44 PM

I'm so sick of trying to read into this nonsense.

Messier 02-08-2013 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9388558)
I never understood the McNabb love. I always thought he was just barely good enough.

Reid must have thought so as well or the Eagles wouldn't have spent a second rounder on Feely in 2001 or on Kolb or Kafka, etc.

Feely was a 5th rounder. McNabb was a really good QB. He doesn't think there's a QB good enough to go 1 so we have to hate him now?

Bewbies 02-08-2013 11:06 PM

If McNabb had the current WR's they have in Philly he would have probably been all world. For the most part he had shit to throw at...

He was good, not great, but maybe with some better players around him he would have been better than he was?

RyFo18 02-08-2013 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9388614)
If McNabb had the current WR's they have in Philly he would have probably been all world. For the most part he had shit to throw at...

He was good, not great, but maybe with some better players around him he would have been better than he was?

Ummmmm, TO?

Don't get me wrong, I think McNabb is a solid QB. But TO is one of the top 10 greatest WRs of all time.

Messier 02-08-2013 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyFo18 (Post 9388616)
Ummmmm, TO?

Don't get me wrong, I think McNabb is a solid QB. But TO is one of the top 10 greatest WRs of all time.

who he had For one year.

Messier 02-08-2013 11:11 PM

Well, a year and a half

RyFo18 02-08-2013 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9388622)
who he had For one year.

Wow you're right. My memory slipped me on that one. For whatever reason it felt like they played together for 5 years. Guess it was just the Super Bowl appearance that did it.

WildTurkey 02-08-2013 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9388614)
If McNabb had the current WR's they have in Philly he would have probably been all world. For the most part he had shit to throw at...

He was good, not great, but maybe with some better players around him he would have been better than he was?

You make a great point. Especially considering his most consistent receiving threat during his time in Philly was Brian Westbrook

The Bad Guy 02-08-2013 11:48 PM

McNabb was absolutely great during his run in Philly.

Bewbies 02-08-2013 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildTurkey (Post 9388638)
You make a great point. Especially considering his most consistent receiving threat during his time in Philly was Brian Westbrook

The guy was never Tom Brady, but if he had Philly's current WR's he'd probably have a ring or two.

Pinkston? Avery? Who else did he have that was worth a shit? (other than the year TO was there and they went to the SB)

DaneMcCloud 02-08-2013 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9388571)
Feely was a 5th rounder. McNabb was a really good QB. He doesn't think there's a QB good enough to go 1 so we have to hate him now?

No, I don't hate him at all.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-08-2013 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9387769)
Here's exactly what he said:

The skill that is most important is that he wins football games.

The great ones makes everyone around them better. They make everyone's game come up.

Look, I'm making it short and sweet for you. We're not talking about the intangibles that go into it, we're not talking about the reads on time, we're not talking about the footwork, the arm strength, the hands, all those things.

The bottom line is that guy doesn't have to the prettiest, but does he give you an opportunity to win football games and does he allow his players around him to raise their game up and go do that.


And if THAT doesnt SCREEEAM "give me Smith YESTERDAY"...then nothing in this ****ing world ever will.
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DaneMcCloud 02-09-2013 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9388682)
McNabb was absolutely great during his run in Philly.

I'm not a an East Coaster and didn't watch every game during his career but outside of 2004, I always felt he was overrated and nothing more than adequate.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...M/McNaDo00.htm

His 2004 numbers were the best of his career by far. Other than that, the only time he was a 60% passer was when it didn't matter.

DaneMcCloud 02-09-2013 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9388699)
And if THAT doesnt SCREEEAM "give me Smith YESTERDAY"...then nothing in this ****ing world ever will.
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All I personally know of Smith is the K-State game and the Pinstripe Bowl. He was less than impressive in both.

I've read more negatives about him than positives, outside of this site, of course.

The biggest knock is that he's a crybaby. True or not, that's a stigma he's carrying among scouts and agents.

silver5liter 02-09-2013 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9388704)
All I personally know of Smith is the K-State game and the Pinstripe Bowl. He was less than impressive in both.

I've read more negatives about him than positives, outside of this site, of course.

The biggest knock is that he's a crybaby. True or not, that's a stigma he's carrying among scouts and agents.

Keep listening to those talking heads

DaneMcCloud 02-09-2013 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9388707)
Keep listening to those talking heads

So, you're saying that I should trust everything I read at Chiefsplanet?

LMAO

silver5liter 02-09-2013 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9388708)
So, you're saying that I should trust everything I read at Chiefsplanet?

LMAO

You can go watch some tape, or read some scouting reports. I don't care, but the more negatives than positives thing is pulled out of thin air

KCrockaholic 02-09-2013 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9388704)
All I personally know of Smith is the K-State game and the Pinstripe Bowl. He was less than impressive in both.

I've read more negatives about him than positives, outside of this site, of course.

The biggest knock is that he's a crybaby. True or not, that's a stigma he's carrying among scouts and agents.

He really wasn't that bad in the Pinstripe bowl considering Nassib completed like 11 of 23 for 130 in that game. It was a tundra during that one, and if you check the game throw by throw he did fine. He stayed within the system which is what he's asked to do. K-state was his rough "bad" game. But he was down 31 to 7 by the 2nd Q. Hard to look good at that point. K state out coached Holgorsen. And I HATE the Holgorsen spread by the way. It's a bad gimmicky offensive system for today's game IMO.

Oh. And I used to think he was a "crybaby" also a few months ago. Then I actually took the time to look into all of his interviews and dig into his personality. Even he admitted his body language was poor at times. But he's not a cry baby. Hopefully he can work on that body language though.

philfree 02-09-2013 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9388704)
All I personally know of Smith is the K-State game and the Pinstripe Bowl. He was less than impressive in both.I've read more negatives about him than positives, outside of this site, of course.

The biggest knock is that he's a crybaby. True or not, that's a stigma he's carrying among scouts and agents.

How come you haven't watched more? It's easily available. You should watch more of Geno. http://draftbreakdown.com/qb-rankings go watch the OU and Baylor games.

silver5liter 02-09-2013 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 9388714)
How come you haven't watched more? It's easily available. You should watch more of Geno. http://draftbreakdown.com/qb-rankings go watch the OU and Baylor games.

The ou game was one of my first wow moments. Threw those ints at the begining and willed his team back in it. Should have won that game

RyFo18 02-09-2013 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9388713)
He really wasn't that bad in the Pinstripe bowl considering Nassib completed like 11 of 23 for 130 in that game. It was a tundra during that one, and if you check the game throw by throw he did fine. He stayed within the system which is what he's asked to do. K-state was his rough "bad" game. But he was down 31 to 7 by the 2nd Q. Hard to look good at that point. K state out coached Holgorsen. And I HATE the Holgorsen spread by the way. It's a bad gimmicky offensive system for today's game IMO.

Oh. And I used to think he was a "crybaby" also a few months ago. Then I actually took the time to look into all of his interviews and dig into his personality. Even he admitted his body language was poor at times. But he's not a cry baby. Hopefully he can work on that body language though.

Anyone that is basing anything off of the Pinstripe Bowl, please exit the forum.

Hammock Parties 02-09-2013 12:11 AM

"WHO HAVE YOU SEEN MORE IN THE LAST MONTH, YOUR WIFE OR JOHN DORSEY?"

What a dick question.

philfree 02-09-2013 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9388716)
The ou game was one of my first wow moments. Threw those ints at the begining and willed his team back in it. Should have won that game

He did all he could do and a little more and they lost. LOL He was the man!

Messier 02-09-2013 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9388711)
You can go watch some tape, or read some scouting reports. I don't care, but the more negatives than positives thing is pulled out of thin air

No one is saying he has more negatives than positives, but some act like there are no negatives at all. I like Smith more than any QB in the draft, but I also realize he's got a few problems.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-09-2013 12:17 AM

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DaneMcCloud 02-09-2013 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 9388714)
How come you haven't watched more? It's easily available. You should watch more of Geno. http://draftbreakdown.com/qb-rankings go watch the OU and Baylor games.

Thanks, Phil!

I have literally, outside of iPhone posts and late night posts, had no time for anything for the past five weeks.

As I've stated so many times, I'm not condemning Smith nor have I ever stated I don't want him. But with that said, my time is limited and I've read more negative than positive, outside of this forum.

My statement wasn't made to be an indictment of his abilities.

DaneMcCloud 02-09-2013 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9388713)
He really wasn't that bad in the Pinstripe bowl considering Nassib completed like 11 of 23 for 130 in that game. It was a tundra during that one, and if you check the game throw by throw he did fine. He stayed within the system which is what he's asked to do. K-state was his rough "bad" game. But he was down 31 to 7 by the 2nd Q. Hard to look good at that point. K state out coached Holgorsen. And I HATE the Holgorsen spread by the way. It's a bad gimmicky offensive system for today's game IMO.

Oh. And I used to think he was a "crybaby" also a few months ago. Then I actually took the time to look into all of his interviews and dig into his personality. Even he admitted his body language was poor at times. But he's not a cry baby. Hopefully he can work on that body language though.

Thanks for the input!

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RunKC 02-09-2013 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9388720)
"WHO HAVE YOU SEEN MORE IN THE LAST MONTH, YOUR WIFE OR JOHN DORSEY?"

What a dick question.

He should have looked at Mr. Stewart and said "your mom, bitch" ROFL

philfree 02-09-2013 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9388750)
Thanks, Phil!

I have literally, outside of iPhone posts and late night posts, had no time for anything for the past five weeks.

As I've stated so many times, I'm not condemning Smith nor have I ever stated I don't want him. But with that said, my time is limited and I've read more negative than positive, outside of this forum.

My statement wasn't made to be an indictment of his abilities.

It won't take long to watch those games with that link. It just shows every Geno Smith play no running plays or WV defense.

007 02-09-2013 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Infidel Goat (Post 9387478)
Heh. I haven't seen Dave Stewart in years, but he looks a lot like the Church Lady now...

FYP


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