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ChiefsCountry 02-10-2021 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 15544022)
I like Lee, but to turn him into Benintendi is a huge ****ing win! And all we had to give up in addition was Franchy? Surely that can’t be right. There’s gotta be more.

If not, what a ****ing steal of a deal!

And cash from the Red Sox

tk13 02-10-2021 08:24 PM

It's also pretty clear they've been buying low on guys who had down years last year in the short season. Even then Benintendi's only 26 so his prime could be ahead of him.

Chiefspants 02-10-2021 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15544034)
It's also pretty clear they've been buying low on guys who had down years last year in the short season. Even then Benintendi's only 26 so his prime could be ahead of him.

This worked to a T with Kendrys Morales.

Mecca 02-10-2021 08:25 PM

Apparently there are more pieces in the deal, just not named yet.

TomBarndtsTwin 02-10-2021 08:28 PM

Lee is a nice athlete with probably a Lorenzo Cain lite ceiling down the road. Benintendi is better than that (not LoCain) already and is only 4 years older than Lee.

Didn’t trade any of our stockpile of arms.

LOVE this move!

jerryaldini 02-10-2021 08:28 PM

This article says pitching going back. Shouldn't be too much on a one year with that salary and last year's numbers.
https://www.royalsreview.com/2021/2/...ree-team-trade

Archie Bunker 02-10-2021 08:31 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One other name that has been mentioned in trade talks recently involving the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> is SP Jesse Hahn.</p>&mdash; Joel Sherman (@Joelsherman1) <a href="https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1/status/1359688326886920192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Might be another move on the way.

TomBarndtsTwin 02-10-2021 08:31 PM

Okay. Hesitating now . . . . .

Waiting to make sure one of our elite prospect arms wasnt packaged to someone in the deal.

ChiefsCountry 02-10-2021 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 15544049)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One other name that has been mentioned in trade talks recently involving the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> is SP Jesse Hahn.</p>&mdash; Joel Sherman (@Joelsherman1) <a href="https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1/status/1359688326886920192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Might be another move on the way.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Being told Hahn is not in this deal which is near complete. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RedSox?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RedSox</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mets?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Mets</a></p>&mdash; Joel Sherman (@Joelsherman1) <a href="https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1/status/1359690081313955841?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Archie Bunker 02-10-2021 08:37 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;m hearing the Red Sox will end up with more than two players in the Benintendi deal. Could be as many as five. As others have reported, the deal isn&#39;t completely done yet.</p>&mdash; Chad Jennings (@chadjennings22) <a href="https://twitter.com/chadjennings22/status/1359692187752161282?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TomBarndtsTwin 02-10-2021 08:38 PM

Okay. Phew.

Only other arm in the deal is a Mets prospect going to the Sox.

Royals keep their full stockpile.

Awesome deal!

ChiefsCountry 02-10-2021 08:47 PM

So we looking at:
1 - Whit (RF)
2 - Mondesi (SS)
3 - Santana (1B)
4 - Soler (DH)
5 - Salvy (C)
6 - Benintendi (LF)
7 - Dozier (3B)
8 - Taylor (CF)
9 - Lopez (2B)

ChiefsCountry 02-10-2021 08:54 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I remember covering the 2018 ALCS and thinking Andrew Benintendi had Alex Gordon&#39;s stat line with Whit Merrifield&#39;s general playing style and aesthetic, so it seemed preordained he&#39;d play for the Royals at some point.</p>&mdash; Rustin Dodd (@rustindodd) <a href="https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/1359695333568245769?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

smithandrew051 02-10-2021 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15544073)
So we looking at:
1 - Whit (RF)
2 - Mondesi (SS)
3 - Santana (1B)
4 - Soler (DH)
5 - Salvy (C)
6 - Benintendi (LF)
7 - Dozier (3B)
8 - Taylor (CF)
9 - Lopez (2B)

Might actually be an entertaining team to watch.

Archie Bunker 02-10-2021 08:55 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Really like what KC is doing this winter. Small market team aims to win.</p>&mdash; Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1359697288201969665?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Early Trade Grades:<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a>: A<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mets?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Mets</a>: B <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RedSox?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RedSox</a>: D <br><br>Betts Bradley Benitendi<br>To<br>Renfroe<br>Cordero<br>Verdugo<br>????</p>&mdash; Jim Bowden (@JimBowdenGM) <a href="https://twitter.com/JimBowdenGM/status/1359696854611619841?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If I didn’t hate Jim Bowden I’d be thrilled

Ocotillo 02-10-2021 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 15544082)
If I didn’t hate Jim Bowden I’d be thrilled

Why do you hate Jim Bowden?

His Sunday program The Front Office on MLB Network Radio is an Emmy-winning show.

louie aguiar 02-10-2021 09:05 PM

Seems like a great trade. Are the Red Sox just dumping payroll?

cosmo20002 02-10-2021 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 15543998)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Benintendi dealt to Royals, pending approvals, medicals</p>&mdash; Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1359682307850919939?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

new Gordo

lewdog 02-10-2021 09:08 PM

This move rocks!

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 02-10-2021 09:10 PM

Damn our lineup looks really solid. Just need a couple pitching arms and World Series here we come!

duncan_idaho 02-10-2021 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15544073)
So we looking at:
1 - Whit (RF)
2 - Mondesi (SS)
3 - Santana (1B)
4 - Soler (DH)
5 - Salvy (C)
6 - Benintendi (LF)
7 - Dozier (3B)
8 - Taylor (CF)
9 - Lopez (2B)


I think it’s more likely:

Merrifield - 2B
Benintendi - LF
Dozier - 3B
Santana - 1B
Soler - DH
Perez - C
Mondesi - SS
Taylor - CF
Olivares - RF

You stack 5 pretty good OBP guys at the top there. Deep 1-7.

Nicky Lopez will get time at 2B, too, with Merrifield going to RF. I’d just like to see them give his legs more of a break by letting him play 2B.

Archie Bunker 02-10-2021 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15544073)
So we looking at:
1 - Whit (RF)
2 - Mondesi (SS)
3 - Santana (1B)
4 - Soler (DH)
5 - Salvy (C)
6 - Benintendi (LF)
7 - Dozier (3B)
8 - Taylor (CF)
9 - Lopez (2B)

That’s a deep lineup. Add in the young arms and the bullpen and you’ve got the potential for a fun little run the next few years.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 02-10-2021 09:17 PM

I wish DM could get one more starting pitcher

tk13 02-10-2021 09:51 PM

If Franchy can stay healthy he could do some damage in Fenway. He can certainly smash the ball. But Benintendi is exactly the kind of guy you'd expect to see in the Royals OF. He's also another guy who can take walks. He's not going to destroy the ball like Cordero but he could hit a ton of doubles and triples.

If Hanser Alberto can actually make the team we'll have some real lineup flexibility with him and Whit.

Sure-Oz 02-10-2021 09:55 PM

@JeffPassan: The three-way trade is done, sources tell ESPN.

Royals get: OF Andrew Benintendi

Mets get: OF Khalil Lee

Red Sox get: OF Franchy Cordero, RHP Josh Winckowski, two PTBNLs from Kansas City, one PTBNL from New York

Archie Bunker 02-10-2021 09:57 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Red Sox will send $2.8 million to the Royals to help cover part of Benintendi’s $6.6 million salary. <a href="https://t.co/krHzBwpWP7">https://t.co/krHzBwpWP7</a></p>&mdash; Mark Feinsand (@Feinsand) <a href="https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1359712301096517636?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ocotillo 02-10-2021 10:15 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Why 3 PTBNLs? Bloom says &quot;having time to work through these things is helpful&quot; and that getting a chance to scout certain players will be even more helpful during COVID.<br><br>Adds &quot;it&#39;ll be a little while&quot;, so we won&#39;t know who the PTBNLs are until minor-leaguers get on the field.</p>&mdash; Chris Cotillo (@ChrisCotillo) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisCotillo/status/1359717085748858880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ocotillo 02-10-2021 10:15 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Red Sox do not know specific identities of the PTBNLs they&#39;ll get. Have frameworks in place (likely a list of a certain number of guys and a deadline) but those names won&#39;t be known anytime soon.</p>&mdash; Chris Cotillo (@ChrisCotillo) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisCotillo/status/1359717299058601987?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

dlphg9 02-10-2021 10:19 PM

Do the Royals get him for 3 more years or just 2?

jdubya 02-10-2021 10:21 PM

Dodgers will take it again hands down

Prison Bitch 02-10-2021 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15544212)
Do the Royals get him for 3 more years or just 2?

2

jerryaldini 02-10-2021 10:42 PM

Sweet! Another OBP guy that can play some D. And didn't have to give pitching. Good to see DM going for it with the arms on the precipice.

KChiefs1 02-10-2021 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 15544175)
@JeffPassan: The three-way trade is done, sources tell ESPN.

Royals get: OF Andrew Benintendi

Mets get: OF Khalil Lee

Red Sox get: OF Franchy Cordero, RHP Josh Winckowski, two PTBNLs from Kansas City, one PTBNL from New York


I guess Khalil Lee sucked ass if all they could get was Benintendi.

Holy shit!

Football offseason sucks.

KChiefs1 02-10-2021 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 15544178)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Red Sox will send $2.8 million to the Royals to help cover part of Benintendi’s $6.6 million salary. <a href="https://t.co/krHzBwpWP7">https://t.co/krHzBwpWP7</a></p>— Mark Feinsand (@Feinsand) <a href="https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1359712301096517636?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


That right there tells who lost in the trade.

cmh6476 02-10-2021 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15544269)
That right there tells who lost in the trade.

umm, the Mets?

jerryaldini 02-10-2021 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15544073)
So we looking at:
1 - Whit (RF)
2 - Mondesi (SS)
3 - Santana (1B)
4 - Soler (DH)
5 - Salvy (C)
6 - Benintendi (LF)
7 - Dozier (3B)
8 - Taylor (CF)
9 - Lopez (2B)

Alberto should be starting at 2B vs lefties. That would be a deep lineup.

Prison Bitch 02-10-2021 11:18 PM

Career wRC+

Benintendi 108
Franchy 97


Bbref projected OPS

Benintendi 772
Franchy 750


Obv AB brings speed and defense which Franchy doesn’t but the hitting gap isn’t near what I expected.

KChiefs1 02-11-2021 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 15544273)
umm, the Mets?


The Mets won the trade obviously.

I’m interested in the 2 PTBNL the Royals gave up too.

Lee
Cordero
2 PTBNL

For

Benintendi - 2 yrs left
$2.8 million

Has anyone looked at Benintendi’s last 2 seasons? He sucks.

Titty Meat 02-11-2021 12:20 AM

.500 season on deck let's go

Chiefspants 02-11-2021 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15544300)
The Mets won the trade obviously.

I’m interested in the 2 PTBNL the Royals gave up too.

Lee
Cordero
2 PTBNL

For

Benintendi - 2 yrs left
$2.8 million

Has anyone looked at Benintendi’s last 2 seasons? He sucks.

His 2019 season seems fine enough?

KChiefs1 02-11-2021 12:33 AM

Andrew Benintendi, OF
Age: 26

The Red Sox had one of the top outfields in baseball with Benintendi in left, Jackie Bradley Jr. in center and Mookie Betts in right when they won the 2018 World Series.

Now, Betts is a Dodger, Bradley is a free agent and Benintendi has been shipped to Kansas City.

The championship year was Benintendi’s best season, when he put up 4.1 WAR, as measured by Baseball Reference.

His offense dropped a bit in 2019—his OPS fell from .830 to .774—and he was limited to just 14 games in 2020 because of a strained muscle in his rib cage.

At his best, Benintendi provides a leadoff man’s skills and, despite the decline from 2018 to 2019 to 2020, was showing an ability to more consistently impact the baseball. His average exit velocity, hard-hit rate and barrel percentage each improved year-over-year.

The Royals are betting that Benintendi—Baseball America’s 2015 College Player of the Year and the No. 1 prospect in the game entering the 2017 season—can get back on track with a change of scenery. He is under team control for two more seasons.

KChiefs1 02-11-2021 12:34 AM

***Official 2021 Royals Season Repository Thread***
 
Red Sox have two players coming from the Royals. This trade is too complicated right now to even try and speculate on specific names, though Brad Keller, Josh Staumont and Scott Barlow came to mind from the Royals side of things.

From an emotional fan standpoint, it’s sad to see him go. From a more objective team-building standpoint, given his recent struggles this could make sense depending on the return, but we’ll withhold judgement until we learn who exactly is coming back.

dlphg9 02-11-2021 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15544331)
Red Sox have two players coming from the Royals. This trade is too complicated right now to even try and speculate on specific names, though Brad Keller, Josh Staumont and Scott Barlow came to mind from the Royals side of things.

From an emotional fan standpoint, it’s sad to see him go. From a more objective team-building standpoint, given his recent struggles this could make sense depending on the return, but we’ll withhold judgement until we learn who exactly is coming back.

WTF are you talking about? Keller, Staumont, and Barlow aren't going to be in this trade.

duncan_idaho 02-11-2021 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15544331)
Red Sox have two players coming from the Royals. This trade is too complicated right now to even try and speculate on specific names, though Brad Keller, Josh Staumont and Scott Barlow came to mind from the Royals side of things.

From an emotional fan standpoint, it’s sad to see him go. From a more objective team-building standpoint, given his recent struggles this could make sense depending on the return, but we’ll withhold judgement until we learn who exactly is coming back.


Yeah, there’s no way any of those names are in there.

PTBNL is going to be, at best, 10-20 prospect range and more likely 20-30.

I could see some SP excess - a Zack Haake, for example - headed to Boston.

But it won’t be current big leaguers.

KChiefs1 02-11-2021 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15544392)
Yeah, there’s no way any of those names are in there.

PTBNL is going to be, at best, 10-20 prospect range and more likely 20-30.

I could see some SP excess - a Zack Haake, for example - headed to Boston.

But it won’t be current big leaguers.

I hope so...I know everyone is hyped for this trade but I've been keeping track of Lee for awhile & I hate to see him go for 2 years of a declining Benintendi.

Gregg Jefferies comes to mind when I think of Benintendi.

BigCatDaddy 02-11-2021 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15544445)
I hope so...I know everyone is hyped for this trade but I've been keeping track of Lee for awhile & I hate to see him go for 2 years of a declining Benintendi.

Gregg Jefferies comes to mind when I think of Benintendi.

A declining 26 year old?

KChiefs1 02-11-2021 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 15544451)
A declining 26 year old?

Check his stats from 2017 to 2018 to 2019 to 2020.

You think that's an ascending player? You think the Red Sox would have traded him if they didn't think he was declining?

Chiefspants 02-11-2021 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15544453)
Check his stats from 2017 to 2018 to 2019 to 2020.

You think that's an ascending player? You think the Red Sox would have traded him if they didn't think he was declining?

How many at bat’s did he have in 2020? Don’t really think 2020 is an accurate marker.

KChiefs1 02-11-2021 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15544465)
How many at bat’s did he have in 2020? Don’t really think 2020 is an accurate marker.

Fine...I just have doubts. We will see very soon. :hmmm:

KChiefs1 02-11-2021 09:40 AM

https://theathletic.com/2381397/2021...bout-the-move/

Royals acquire Andrew Benintendi: Answering 5 questions about the move
by
Alec Lewis

Quote:

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Here’s how the Royals described what they coveted all offseason:

“We need more on-base guys,” general manager Dayton Moore said in September. “We need more quality ABs from two other spots in the lineup.”

“We’d like to get a left-handed bat in the outfield if we can,” Moore said in November.

“I think a left-handed bat would be very helpful,” Moore said in January.

And there you have the broad explanation for Wednesday night’s news. The Royals acquired Andrew Benintendi from the Boston Red Sox in a three-team deal including the New York Mets. Khalil Lee, whom the Royals drafted in 2016, was traded to the Mets; Franchy Cordero, whom the Royals acquired last season from the San Diego Padres in exchange for left-handed reliever Tim Hill, was dealt to Boston. The Royals included two other players to be named later in the deal but did not have to give up one of their young pitching prospects.

This was a move that mirrored most of the Royals’ offseason activity. Months ago, they pinpointed a target. As time passed, they remained in touch and studied up. They then completed a deal, setting up for a more competitive 2021.

That’s the basic formula for how this occurred, but here are five more questions and subsequent answers on the deal.



Why did the Royals make this move?

To reiterate: The Royals wanted a left-handed-hitting outfield bat — a reliable left-handed-hitting outfield bat. Cordero was an option, but he has dealt with numerous injuries over the course of his career.

And that gets to the more big-picture element of this deal.

A couple of months ago, Moore also said this: “Our mindset is going to be to go out and win every single pitch, every inning, every game. That’s the only way we’re ever going to win another championship. You’ve got to expect to win in all aspects.”

Expecting to win requires reliability, and though prospects Lee, Nick Heath and Kyle Isbel had shown promise in recent years, none was remotely close to as reliable as Benintendi.

“It fits perfectly,” Moore said Wednesday night, mentioning Jorge Soler, Whit Merrifield, Adalberto Mondesi and Salvador Pérez, four players in whom the Royals are confident. “We wanted to add to that group with Carlos Santana, Mike Minor, Michael A. Taylor and now Benintendi.”

What will Benintendi bring to the table?

The 26-year-old has played five seasons in the big leagues. He won a World Series in 2018. And in college at Arkansas he won the Golden Spikes Award. That’s the historical context.

More recently in 2020, Benintendi struggled. He played in 14 games, posting a .442 OPS. A right rib cage strain shut him down in August, ending his season, but those 52 plate appearances did not concern the Royals.

“We believe in the player,” Moore said. “He’s performed at every level. We’re confident he can get back to his accustomed level. He’s just entering his prime, and we know from our information he’s worked his tail off this offseason. He’s in great shape.”

The Royals assuredly view Benintendi’s ability in the context of his entire career. He’s posted a 107 OPS+ in 1,837 total at-bats (a .273/.353/.435 slash line). Among active Royals hitters, only Santana (31.4), Pérez (24.2) and Merrifield (14.1) have higher career WAR than Benintendi (9.8).

Benintendi won’t become a free agent until 2023, meaning the Royals have two seasons of control. The Royals haven’t yet had extension conversations. They want their newly acquired player to get settled first. But, as Moore often says, the Royals will work to keep talented players in Royals blue for an extended period of time.

Where will Benintendi fit?

The Royals’ outfield is finally filled out: Merrifield will play in right field, Taylor will start in center and Benintendi will get the nod in left field, where he’s played 425 career games.

Benintendi has wavered in his defensive production throughout his career. For reference, Alex Gordon, who is inarguably one of the best defensive outfielders of all time, posted a plus-12 defensive runs saved in 2018, per FanGraphs. Benintendi, on the other hand, posted a plus-3. Kauffman Stadium’s depth may challenge him, but again, there’s certain reliability that comes with a player as experienced as Benintendi.

Lineup-wise, it’s conceivable to think Benintendi slots somewhere toward the middle-lower half, considering Merrifield, Mondesi, Soler, Pérez, Santana and Hunter Dozier can all do damage. Another byproduct of this deal: The Royals can allow Nicky Lopez to play his typical Gold Glove-caliber defense and have the confidence he can work through ups and downs at the plate.

What did the Royals give up?

Lee has long been an interesting prospect within the Royals’ system. Similar to Cordero, he, too, has suffered a number of injuries in recent years. He has also struggled to loft the ball, and as competitive as the Royals have seen him, there’s a maturity jump the 22-year-old has yet to clear.

There’s also the fact the Royals have another left-handed-hitting outfield prospect: Isbel.

“We feel really good about Kyle Isbel,” Moore said Wednesday night. “It wouldn’t shock us a bit if he forces his way on this field sooner than later. He’ll get that opportunity as long as he’s producing in the minors and forcing our hand.”

For years, Royals scouts have compared Isbel to Benintendi. There’s a naturalness in the way both players play. Maybe Benintendi bridges the gap for when Isbel is truly ready. Or maybe they’ll play together, given Merrifield is 32 years old.

“There’s room for both of those guys in the lineup someday,” Moore said.

A minimum of two years for Benintendi also allows development time for soon-to-be 18-year-old Erick Pena.

What does this mean for where the Royals are in their competitive window?

“We believe we can win,” Moore said Wednesday night.

He wasn’t talking about 2022 or 2023 or beyond. No, he was talking about this year. About the season that is slated to begin April 1.

That’s why the Royals signed Santana, an on-base machine who has won an American League pennant. That’s why they added Taylor, who can roam the swaths of grass in center field and has won a World Series. That’s why they added Minor, who has MLB playoffs experience, and Greg Holland, too. This move was simply an extension to that.

“He’s a proven talent,” Moore said of Benintendi. “He’s been a part of the playoffs. He’s a proven winner. He gets on base. He does a lot of things you need players to do in your lineup if you’re going to win.”

Asked about the influence owner John Sherman had on the move, Moore said they had detailed conversations throughout the process. Sherman was supportive, as he so often has been. Within the answer, though, Moore delved deeper into the current psyche of the organization, which was cemented by Wednesday night’s move.

“This is a winning culture,” he said. “We have a terrific manager. We have an unbelievable fan base that expects us to put a competitive team on the field. We’ve won World Championships. We’ve been to back-to-back World Series. We’ve proven as a group that we can accomplish some very special and unique things. … We just focus on what we do, not what anybody else has done or done in the past.”

KChiefs1 02-11-2021 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 15492711)
Didn't see that anyone had posted this yet. Four in the top 100. Three in the top 50.
https://www.baseballamerica.com/rank...100-prospects/

Bobby Witt (#16), Daniel Lynch (#25), Asa Lacy (#37), Jackson Kowar (#95)

Keith Law's Farm System Ranks:
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15. Kansas City Royals

The Royals’ investment in college pitching in the 2018-20 drafts is really paying off, as they’ve remade a system they’d all but strip-mined to win a World Series and another pennant in 2014-15. They’ve also added a handful of very high-ceiling position player prospects to the system in Bobby Witt Jr. and Erick Peña, both signed in 2019. The real test of the system will be how some of their players who struggled in 2019, like Nick Pratto, MJ Melendez or Khalil Lee, bounce back after a year focused just on development at the team’s alternate site.

siberian khatru 02-11-2021 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15544473)
Fine...I just have doubts. We will see very soon. :hmmm:

https://insidethecrown.substack.com/...drewbenintendi

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Benintendi was the seventh overall pick in 2015 out of Arkansas and spent all of 151 games in the minors before debuting at 22 in August of the next season. He hit well, but retained rookie eligibility so he was the top prospect heading into the next season and had a commendable rookie year before breaking out in 2018, hitting .290/.366/.465 and playing a tough left field very well.

The beginning of his 2019 was rough. He kept fouling balls off his right leg. And the end was tough due to an oblique injury. But it took a brutal September to bring his numbers down that year. He was hitting .283/.357/.459 at the end of August and then proceeded to hit just .141/.243/.219 the last month. Of course, then he played in only 14 games in 2020 and hit .103/.314/.128. Yep, he had just four hits and only one extra base hit. So his last 35 games have been brutal.

It was another injury that plagued his 2020 season, a rib injury that ended his year on August 11, which was obviously just a couple weeks after the season started in the 60-game schedule. So what does this all mean for him going forward?

To me, the biggest thing is that if he’s healthy, there’s very little reason to assume he’s anything but the guy who hit .282/.358/.451 before the oblique injury derailed his 2019 season. Is there a reason to assume he’ll stay healthy? Well no, obviously not, but before the injury, he found himself getting better and better contact every season. His barrel rate was improving as was his hard hit rate and his xSLG was rising every season.

Prison Bitch 02-11-2021 10:06 AM

I’m afraid DM overpaid for “grit” again.


OTOH, he’s brought in 4 vets this winter that are all upgrades from their predecessor. For a 28-32 team that wasn’t all that bad last year......THERE’S A GLEAM!

KChiefs1 02-11-2021 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 15544577)

Ok...I'm trying to convince myself this is a good trade for the Royals.

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bsp4444 02-11-2021 10:31 AM

Who’s playing third base this year?

KChiefs1 02-11-2021 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bsp4444 (Post 15544629)
Who’s playing third base this year?

Hunter Dozier

duncan_idaho 02-11-2021 10:55 AM

I'm high on Khalil Lee. I love his athleticism and raw tools. He has had some trouble with swing and miss, and his GB rate was really high. For him, it's all about tapping into his raw power (he's one of those 50-raw guys whose game power plays down).

He is not an insignificant price to pay. If it clicks, you could be looking at a guy who hits .260/.360/.500 in the majors.

But Benintendi, if the 2019 September is a fluke, is absolutely a high upside risk worth taking.

Prior to September 2019, Benintendi is a career .282/.358/.450 hitter. You absolutely hit that guy in the top 1-2 of the lineup.

nicksdad 02-11-2021 11:05 AM

lifelong Chiefs fan living in new England so also sox fan. Bennie seems like a good buy low candidate for you. on the other hand Bloom has done a pretty good job at extracting prospects ( Tampa alumni) in most of his deals so far. Bennie seemed like a ten year plug and play guy who somehow lost his approach at the plate entirely. change of scene and playing for a new contract may help. the only negative ( besides his last 2 1/2 seasons is that he had a reputation early on as kind of a douche / know it all . when he was going good this was a cockiness that allowed him to step in and flourish quickly. when his numbers tanked people questioned whether he was uncoachable . the talent is there but he needs to turn it around. that could very well happen in KC.

Prison Bitch 02-11-2021 11:09 AM

ZiPS war:

2021. AB 1.6 Franchy 1.1
2022. AB 1.6, Franchy 0.9



Worse: That’s projecting 500 PA for AB, 275 for Franchy.

That’s an ugly projection for KC. We better be getting the old AB and not the one of the past two seasons.

nicksdad 02-11-2021 11:11 AM

2 and a half. he was an all star for the first half of 2018 but pretty much sucked the second half

Deberg_1990 02-11-2021 11:41 AM

I smell 70 wins. Woohoo!

duncan_idaho 02-11-2021 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicksdad (Post 15544720)
2 and a half. he was an all star for the first half of 2018 but pretty much sucked the second half

He was excellent in 2019 save for September (last month), though. That 2018 second-half slide didn't carry over to 2019.

nicksdad 02-11-2021 12:12 PM

no need to quibble. career high SO, career low BB, career low WAR in 2019. in any event a guy with talent and good low buy for KCR

KChiefs1 02-11-2021 12:13 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New at The Changeup: A look at the Andrew Benintendi trade and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a>&#39; efforts to contend: <a href="https://t.co/Cd8pJY6r4W">https://t.co/Cd8pJY6r4W</a></p>&mdash; The Changeup ⚾️ (@The_Changeup) <a href="https://twitter.com/The_Changeup/status/1359927050979672071?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KChiefs1 02-11-2021 12:14 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andrew Benintendi Trade Grades<br>Royals: B+<br>Mets: B<br>Red Sox: B-for now, could change after 3 PTBNL are named- NN</p>&mdash; SN Sports (@thesn_sports) <a href="https://twitter.com/thesn_sports/status/1359924618803507202?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KChiefs1 02-11-2021 12:15 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Which two players do you believe the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> will send to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Boston?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Boston</a> to complete the Benintendi trade? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MLB?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MLB</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RedSox?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RedSox</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Benintendi?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Benintendi</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpringTraining?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SpringTraining</a></p>&mdash; Kings of Kauffman (@KingsofKauffman) <a href="https://twitter.com/KingsofKauffman/status/1359922917681856518?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KChiefs1 02-11-2021 12:17 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> make a close-to-Spring Training splash in February and acquire Andrew Benintendi from the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RedSox?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RedSox</a> in a 3-team deal with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mets?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Mets</a>. KC correspondent <a href="https://twitter.com/MKelley_ND?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MKelley_ND</a> takes an in-depth look at the centerpiece of this trade. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WooPig?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WooPig</a> <a href="https://t.co/FiptibI0Lt">https://t.co/FiptibI0Lt</a></p>&mdash; Prospects1500 (@Prospects1500) <a href="https://twitter.com/Prospects1500/status/1359918713236041731?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KChiefs1 02-11-2021 12:18 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">��️ New <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HeadlinePod?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HeadlinePod</a> reacting to Wednesday night&#39;s MLB trade with <a href="https://twitter.com/alec_lewis?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@alec_lewis</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/jcmccaffrey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jcmccaffrey</a>...<br><br>⚾️ How does Benintendi fit into the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> timeline<br>⚾️ Bloom&#39;s Boston rebuild continues<br>⚾️ How will <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RedSox?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RedSox</a> fans remember Benintendi?<br><br>Listen FREE!<a href="https://t.co/iC4fQ6cyYQ">https://t.co/iC4fQ6cyYQ</a></p>&mdash; Tim McMaster (@TimMMcMaster) <a href="https://twitter.com/TimMMcMaster/status/1359915797490126849?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KChiefs1 02-11-2021 02:48 PM

The rookies most likely to make each American League team out of spring training

Kansas City Royals

Jackson Kowar is probably the rookie most likely to make the Royals out of spring training, because he’s got the ability to impact their bullpen right out of the chute. Kowar’s fastball-changeup combination is deadly and the fact he can control both pitches makes him major-league ready. His changeup is a legitimate wipeout pitch and one of the best in the game. His fastball is in the mid-90s and there is a 10 mph differential between the two offerings. He also has an average curveball he can mix in.

Daniel Lynch is the Royals rookie starting pitcher closest to the major leagues, but he’ll probably begin the year in Triple A. However, don’t sleep on him making the team if he’s able to put together a dominant spring training. Lynch has a 97 mph fastball to go along with an above-average slider and changeup with the curveball being his fourth pitch. He’s made a lot of progress at the alternate site in terms of improving his mechanics which should lead to improved command — and that will be the key to him making the team out of spring training.

dlphg9 02-11-2021 03:04 PM

I really hate giving up Khalil Lee. Really ****ing hate it.

Prison Bitch 02-11-2021 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15545416)
I really hate giving up Khalil Lee. Really ****ing hate it.

His ZiPS projections next 5 years were all below 0.0. FG projects Lee as a platoon type guy. I guess that means something like a Jarrod Dyson?


Scouts might like him more than analytics do.

Mama Hip Rockets 02-11-2021 03:13 PM

I'm excited about this season! Lineup looks stacked and pitching shows a lot of promise. Curious to see if they bring up any more of the young guys this year like they did with Singer and Bubic last year.

Wilson8 02-11-2021 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15544107)
I think it’s more likely:

Merrifield - 2B
Benintendi - LF
Dozier - 3B
Santana - 1B
Soler - DH
Perez - C
Mondesi - SS
Taylor - CF
Olivares - RF

You stack 5 pretty good OBP guys at the top there. Deep 1-7.

Nicky Lopez will get time at 2B, too, with Merrifield going to RF. I’d just like to see them give his legs more of a break by letting him play 2B.

1. R – Whit Merrifield - 2B
2. L – Andrew Benintendi - LF
3. R – Hunter Dozier - 3B
4. S – Carlos Santana - 1B
5. R – Jorge Soler - DH
6. R – Salvador Perez - C
7. S – Adalberto Mondesi - SS
8. R – Michael A. Taylor - CF
9. R – Edward Olivares – RF

The battle for the bench and rotational players will be interesting.
2020 Rules - 26 man roster now. Only 13 can be pitchers.
L - Nicky Lopez - INF
R - Hanser Alberto – INF
R – Cam Gallaghar – C
L – Meibrys Viloria – C
L – Ryan McBroom – 1B/PH/DH
L – Ryan O’Hearn – 1B/PH/DH
L – Nick Heath – OF/PR
R – Kelvin Gutierrez 3B

It seems like Nicky Lopez might win out over Hanser Alberto since Hanser is already on a minor league contract, but Hanser will be really valuable against LH pitching, so I think he will be brought up pretty quickly.

Cam Gallagher and Meibrys Viloria will compete for the backup catcher role. Gallagher is 5 years older so Royals might be OK with him sitting on Royal’s bench while Viloria plays in the minors.

Ryan O’Hearn and Ryan McBroom will fight for a shot at the back up slot but both might be beat out. Ryan McBroom has played some outfield.

Kelvin Gutierrez will have to shine in spring training to be given a chance. He probably starts out in minors and has to wait for a Hunter Dozier injury.

Nick Heath will battle the younger players for the 4th outfield spot in spring training. Nick’s left handed bat, speed at running the bases, and his 27 year old age makes him the likely player to win this spot.

Likely Bench – Nicky Lopez, Cam Gallagher, Ryan McBroom, and Nick Heath. Hanser Alberto will be brought up at first opportunity.

Wilson8 02-11-2021 09:18 PM

They were interviewing Rex Hudler on 610 radio today. He thinks that Whit will play 2B with some outfield when needed. He thinks Royals will be stealing bases and 2B would be easier on Merrifield's legs.

Prison Bitch 02-11-2021 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15544107)
I think it’s more likely:

Merrifield - 2B
Benintendi - LF
Dozier - 3B
Santana - 1B
Soler - DH
Perez - C
Mondesi - SS
Taylor - CF
Olivares - RF

You stack 5 pretty good OBP guys at the top there. Deep 1-7.

Nicky Lopez will get time at 2B, too, with Merrifield going to RF. I’d just like to see them give his legs more of a break by letting him play 2B.



They won’t bat Mondesi behind the slowest guy in baseball

Wilson8 02-11-2021 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15546194)
They won’t bat Mondesi behind the slowest guy in baseball

That is a good point.

I hope Mondesi really takes a big step forward this year.

KChiefs1 02-11-2021 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 15546185)
They were interviewing Rex Hudler on 610 radio today. He thinks that Whit will play 2B with some outfield when needed. He thinks Royals will be stealing bases and 2B would be easier on Merrifield's legs.


Who plays RF?

Wilson8 02-11-2021 09:42 PM

Edward Olivares

tk13 02-11-2021 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 15546204)
That is a good point.

I hope Mondesi really takes a big step forward this year.

He sure looked like it the last month of the season. Probably the biggest key to how this team goes offensively. If he plays like a superstar again this lineup is going to be legit.

ChiefsCountry 02-11-2021 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15544712)
ZiPS war:

2021. AB 1.6 Franchy 1.1
2022. AB 1.6, Franchy 0.9



Worse: That’s projecting 500 PA for AB, 275 for Franchy.

That’s an ugly projection for KC. We better be getting the old AB and not the one of the past two seasons.

Analytics don't like Benintendi's defense.


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