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Hoover 04-29-2012 09:12 AM

Pioli Deserves Props
 
The NFL draft is a lot like Christmas morning. There is a lot of anticipation leading up to the big day, and when the time finally arrives to see what’s under the tree for us we can sometimes be a little disappointed.

We all remember the Christmas that we got everything we wanted. For Chiefs fans that was last year. We got a QB, WR, DBs, and LBs. Heck we even liked the more practical gifts like a Rodney Hudson. Frankly, the 2011 draft gave us a lot to play with, and we used them.

After a big year like 2011, some of you seem down. Sure we got the big present we always talk about (NT), but its’ not as cool as we thought it would be. We also ended up with some more practical gifts than we expected.

Here is how I view this draft, and to be honest I’m pretty stoked about it.

After having a draft like we did in 2011 where we seemed to hit on almost every pick, it wasn’t necessary for the Chiefs to snag additional pass rushers to sit behind guys like Hali and Houston. While we are still a little shallow when it comes to the safety position and could use some depth at center, the Chiefs are well positioned. In fact, I think the practicality of the 2012 Chiefs draft will allow them the flexibility in future drafts to aggressively seek out play makers to add to this team.

If there is one thing that I think Pioli deserves credit for, it’s rebuilding the Chiefs offensive live. While Albert was already hear when he arrived, Pioli not only filled a glaring hole at RT when he signed Eric Winston, but his last three drafts has set the Chiefs on a course to maintain a quality offensive line for years to come.

Many on this board recoiled at any suggestion that the Chiefs should use their first round pick on a lineman. After all the heated debates about the value of DeCastro, Pioli seems to agree with those who don’t want to invest first round picks on the line. Maybe instead of bitching that we didn’t have the Steelers’ draft, some of you should praise Pioli for doing exactly what you advocated for.

In the last three years, Pioli has taken four offensive linemen in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the draft. Asamoah and Hudson are now starters. Jeff Allen is going to push Ryan Lilja for a starting spot at guard, but is more likely to be seasoned for a year before finding a permanent home on the life. I know it’s sometimes hard to get excited about the offensive line, but Pioli obviously has a process that seems to be working really well.

Picking back-to-back tackles isn’t as exciting as drafting guys like Justin Houston or Javier Arenas, but it feeds a system that can produce quality linemen that allows the Chiefs not use first round picks on offensive tackles, guards, or centers. It also means that the Chiefs will not be forced to commit free agent dollars on those positions either.

We are lucky to have landed Winston this offseason. Without him there would probably be no Poe. I like how Pioli is building this team. While I continue to be frustrated about Cassel, finding a franchise QB is never easy. We have had three solid drafts under Pioli and we can already see the results. Yes we need to find a QB, but at least we are building a strong team while we continue to look for him.

Hammock Parties 04-29-2012 09:15 AM

Pioli doesn't deserve shit until he delivers a playoff win.

LiveSteam 04-29-2012 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8580431)
Pioli doesn't deserve shit until he delivers a playoff win or has Matt Cassels baby .

:evil:

Hammock Parties 04-29-2012 09:18 AM

Only if he dies in childbirth.

BoneKrusher 04-29-2012 09:18 AM

Pioli and Cassel both suck.
just not sure which sucks more yet.

chiefzilla1501 04-29-2012 09:20 AM

The great news is, we're a QB away from being a good team for a very long time.
The bad news is, we're a QB away from being a good team for a very long time.

RealSNR 04-29-2012 09:20 AM

I don't care about positions or any of that other shit. Pioli wants to draft all fatties? Fine.

Just draft some good ones for ****'s sake. Not guys that have "backup potential".

Hammock Parties 04-29-2012 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8580438)
The great news is, we're a QB away from being a good team for a very long time.
The bad news is, we're a QB away from being a good team for a very long time.

I disagree, and people keep saying this, and it's just not ****ing true.

We need a QB and a HC.

RealSNR 04-29-2012 09:26 AM

You want to draft a WR in the 4th round? Fine. How about you draft a guy who's not a white brokedick piece of shit?

With most of this draft I was fine. You can't expect every player to turn into a stud, but you can draft so that every player (or nearly every player) has some good things going for him.

Last year, I think every single player except for Shane Bannan (a freakin 7th rounder) had good things going for him. It wouldn't be shocking if all of them didn't work out, but at least every single guy had an elite quality about him.

This year, we took Allen, Menzie, Gray, and Hemingway. Stephonson, Wylie, and Long were abortions. If the Poe pick works out, then the draft is a success. However, I give small odds (no more than 35%)

It's why lots of people aren't giving up or hopeless. They're just disappointed.

RealSNR 04-29-2012 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8580444)
I disagree, and people keep saying this, and it's just not ****ing true.

We need a QB and a HC.

Romeo is mediocre. He's not terrible.

Like all mediocre head coaches, if you give him a franchise QB to work with, he can appear to be a great coach when he's really not.

Hammock Parties 04-29-2012 09:28 AM

The Poe pick is honestly a complete ****ing abortion and no one should be defending it right now.

You don't pick players with shit production at #11. You just ****ing don't. It's reeruned as hell.

Right now it feels like we drafted Poe because the idiot in charge ignored NT for 3 years, and he backed himself into a corner, and reached.

**** that pick. And this is coming from someone who defended Tyson Jackson for a season.

Deberg_1990 04-29-2012 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8580451)
The Poe pick is honestly a complete ****ing abortion and no one should be defending it right now.

You don't pick players with shit production at #11. You just ****ing don't. It's reeruned as hell.

Right now it feels like we drafted Poe because the idiot in charge ignored NT for 3 years, and he backed himself into a corner, and reached.

**** that pick. And this is coming from someone who defended Tyson Jackson for a season.

Didn't realize u could see into the future? your awesome!

Hammock Parties 04-29-2012 09:36 AM

In the future, you might actually learn how to spell "you're."

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-29-2012 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8580431)
Pioli doesn't deserve shit until he delivers a playoff win.

It's coming . If we can stay healthy this year we shall kick Peyton Mannings ass (Crennel knows how), win the AFCW and be a legit challenger to win the AFC.







Wait. Theres Cassel.

Nevermind!

CrazyHorse 04-29-2012 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8580451)
The Poe pick is honestly a complete ****ing abortion and no one should be defending it right now.

You don't pick players with shit production at #11. You just ****ing don't. It's reeruned as hell.

Right now it feels like we drafted Poe because the idiot in charge ignored NT for 3 years, and he backed himself into a corner, and reached.

**** that pick. And this is coming from someone who defended Tyson Jackson for a season.

This post is very encouraging, because you're never right.


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