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raybec 4 08-02-2022 05:15 PM

The Bader/Montgomery trade was good for both teams. I just wish Mo would have let his nuts drop and gotten Soto.

bdj23 08-02-2022 05:18 PM

Mozeliak actually redeemed himself but I still want him canned

Rams Fan 08-02-2022 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16392470)
The Bader/Montgomery trade was good for both teams. I just wish Mo would have let his nuts drop and gotten Soto.

I don't think it was good for the Yankees at all.

They gave up a good middle rotation starter who has another year of team control for a CF that has plantar fasciitis, which impacts the biggest asset he has (his defense) while barely being able to be hit worth a damn.

Miles 08-02-2022 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16392458)
This is the first tradeline where I'm not pissed off or underwhelmed in quite awhile.

Yeah I’m happy with the trades a well and didn’t feel like they gave up too much. Mostly just hoped for one of the bigger fish.

VAChief 08-02-2022 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Miles (Post 16392494)
Yeah I’m happy with the trades a well and didn’t feel like they gave up too much. Mostly just hoped for one of the bigger fish.

I suppose as opposed to a Lester/Happ it’s a slight upgrade, but kinda feels like instead of going from dating a 4 to a 5…when the goal is setting your standard to going balls deep in nothing lower then a 9.

Rams Fan 08-02-2022 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by VAChief (Post 16392657)
I suppose as opposed to a Lester/Happ it’s a slight upgrade, but kinda feels like instead of going from dating a 4 to a 5…when the goal is setting your standard to going balls deep in nothing lower then a 9.

I think you’re severely underestimating how good Montgomery is and how giving up Bader is probably the best move long term as it clears a way for Walker to play sooner.

Short of getting Soto, this is probably the best I would expect the Cardinals to do. And while I still disagree with the FO’s overall approach, I can’t be upset with what they did at the deadline.

Happ and Lester were both pitching below league replacement level before coming to STL. Quintana and Montgomery aren’t and are both having good seasons and peripherals to match their success.

They aren’t reclamation projects like Masterson, Happ, LeBlanc, Lester, Ross, etc.

raybec 4 08-02-2022 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16392667)
I think you’re severely underestimating how good Montgomery is and how giving up Bader is probably the best move long term as it clears a way for Walker to play sooner.

Short of getting Soto, this is probably the best I would expect the Cardinals to do. And while I still disagree with the FO’s overall approach, I can’t be upset with what they did at the deadline.

Happ and Lester were both pitching below league replacement level before coming to STL. Quintana and Montgomery aren’t and are both having good seasons and peripherals to match their success.

They aren’t reclamation projects like Masterson, Happ, LeBlanc, Lester, Ross, etc.

How does offloading Bader get Walker a clearer path?

Marcellus 08-02-2022 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16392679)
How does offloading Bader get Walker a clearer path?

Carlson stays in CF and that opens a corner outfield spot for Walker.

He is supposed to start playing outfield in the minors soon.

raybec 4 08-02-2022 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16392681)
Carlson stays in CF and that opens a corner outfield spot for Walker.

He is supposed to start playing outfield in the minors soon.

Huh, I didn't know that. I know they had some concerns about his defense at third.

Marcellus 08-02-2022 07:17 PM

And Carlson just hit a 2 run homer after making a great catch to end the previous inning.

ChiefsCountry 08-02-2022 07:17 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Starting tonight, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/STLCards?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#STLCards</a> top prospect Jordan Walker — who has played exclusively third base until now — will begin seeing time at all three outfield spots.<br><br>TV: Bally Sports Midwest<br>Stream: <a href="https://t.co/QiZXjEQLVA">https://t.co/QiZXjEQLVA</a> <a href="https://t.co/VPxbtZaQt1">pic.twitter.com/VPxbtZaQt1</a></p>&mdash; Bally Sports Midwest (@BallySportsMW) <a href="https://twitter.com/BallySportsMW/status/1554619522954706946?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BigRedChief 08-02-2022 07:23 PM

Expected but this still piss’s me off.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/STLCards?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#STLCards</a> Pres. John Mozeliak on improving the roster: “Getting to the postseason &amp; getting the opportunity to get to the World Series, I don’t think anybody is going to claim they built a World Series club today. If we get hot, we can play with anybody &amp; hopefully we get hot.”</p>&mdash; John Denton (@JohnDenton555) <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnDenton555/status/1554609639450464268?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

bdj23 08-02-2022 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16392691)
Expected but this still piss’s me off.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/STLCards?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#STLCards</a> Pres. John Mozeliak on improving the roster: “Getting to the postseason &amp; getting the opportunity to get to the World Series, I don’t think anybody is going to claim they built a World Series club today. If we get hot, we can play with anybody &amp; hopefully we get hot.”</p>&mdash; John Denton (@JohnDenton555) <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnDenton555/status/1554609639450464268?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You can't get much hotter than a 17 game winning streak, which then resulted in 1 road playoff game. Then you fired the manager

I hate Bozoliak

ChiefsCountry 08-02-2022 07:28 PM

I don't know if its me or what I think Walker ends up in right field.

Marcellus 08-02-2022 07:29 PM

DJ must be working on a really long really angry post.................


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