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Craash 12-27-2012 04:42 PM

Buy Here Pay Here Dealer
 
My wife has a recently divorced friend who is a mess. She just had her car repo'ed today while at work.

Anyway, partly to keep my wife from becoming her taxi driver I'm putting feelers out for anyone that might know/own/work at a car place that caters to those with worse than bad credit and is less buzzardly than normal.

I'm of the opinion she hasn't hit bottom yet and won't turn things around until she does but she's deep into Lindsay Mode denial. The tough thing is she has two kids and the dad is threating to take her back to court to try and take away her custoday . . . . so my wife is struggling with it.

Any leads?


fire/aids tree/antifreeze/piihb/gaz

DaKCMan AP 12-27-2012 04:44 PM

pics?

Craash 12-27-2012 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9244262)
pics?


Damn, I missed that one.

She USED to be hot.

FlaChief58 12-27-2012 04:48 PM

First of all, why would anyone want to finance a car for her when you describe her as someone who is less than responsible?

Secondly, the kids may actually be better off with the dad

Craash 12-27-2012 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 9244269)
First of all, why would anyone want to finance a car for her when you descride her as someone who is less than responsible?

Secondly, the kids may actually be better off with the dad

I don't disagree with any of this.

TribalElder 12-27-2012 06:01 PM

http://www.metcalfautoplaza.com/

Saw their commercial once.
It's a starting point I guess

Saul Good 12-27-2012 06:39 PM

Tell her to buy a $500 car that will last her a few months. Going to a buy here pay here lot is a recipe for disaster.

SAUTO 12-27-2012 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9244498)
Tell her to buy a $500 car that will last her a few months. Going to a buy here pay here lot is a recipe for disaster.

This. Buy a cheap ****ing car and limp that ****er through for a while
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Dr. Gigglepants 12-27-2012 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9244498)
Tell her to buy a $500 car that will last her a few months. Going to a buy here pay here lot is a recipe for disaster.

100% This. Sounds like a bad idea to go to one of those places now. Unless you're trying to help her reach rock bottom.
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threebag 12-27-2012 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9244498)
Tell her to buy a $500 car that will last her a few months. Going to a buy here pay here lot is a recipe for disaster.

This all day. Unless she is willing to work it off in trade.

hometeam 12-27-2012 06:45 PM

Buy here pay here is a nightmare in most cases. That being said, if she is a 590 or so a regular bank/dealership will get her bought. I have seen 470s get bought under the right circumstances. I would exhaust every avenue of traditional financing before getting interest bombed by a buy here pay here lot.

Easy 6 12-27-2012 06:50 PM

If she's that bad, she'll likely need atleast 2k down and be prepared to pay crazy (15-20%) interest.

If thats the route she goes, just make double sure that they report to the credit bureau, so she can atleast start building better credit after biting the high interest bullet... many of those places dont report.

Saul Good 12-27-2012 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9244528)
If she's that bad, she'll likely need atleast 2k down and be prepared to pay crazy (15-20%) interest.

If thats the route she goes, just make double sure that they report to the credit bureau, so she can atleast start building better credit after biting the high interest bullet... many of those places dont report.

If she's got $2000 to put down, she should just buy a $1500 car and set $500 aside for repairs.

Mr. Flopnuts 12-27-2012 06:55 PM

If she couldn't make the payment how can she make the down?

KurtCobain 12-27-2012 06:56 PM

How has she not hit rock bottom? This sounds pretty bottom.

Easy 6 12-27-2012 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9244536)
If she's got $2000 to put down, she should just buy a $1500 car and set $500 aside for repairs.

$1500 for a car these days, is almost wasted money.

You can get lucky and find a real gem once in a while, but in most instances they're not even worth driving, just a perpetual drag on the pocketbook.

Its usually better to pony up and get something as new and nice as possible.

Bugeater 12-27-2012 06:56 PM

Tell her to get her life together and then she can worry about a car.

SAUTO 12-27-2012 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9244546)
$1500 for a car these days, is almost wasted money.

You can get lucky and find a real gem once in a while, but in most instances they're not even worth driving, just a perpetual drag on the pocketbook.

Its usually better to pony up and get something as new and nice as possible.

I disagree
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Saul Good 12-27-2012 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9244546)
$1500 for a car these days, is almost wasted money.

You can get lucky and find a real gem once in a while, but in most instances they're not even worth driving, just a perpetual drag on the pocketbook.

Its usually better to pony up and get something as new and nice as possible.

You can get a year out of a $1500 car if you budget $500 for repairs. She will wind up paying more than that in interest in the first year if she takes out a high interest loan.

Bugeater 12-27-2012 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9244549)
I disagree
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The reason you disagree is because you have the skills required to keep an old POS running.

KurtCobain 12-27-2012 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9244547)
Tell her to get her life together and then she can worry about a car.

lol. Wtf, a car isn't a luxury.

hometeam 12-27-2012 07:04 PM

cash for clunkers destroyed the bottom end of the used car market, it drove up prices from the low end up.

This is my business day in and day out, that 1500 dollar car is gonna be a big POS in MOST CASES.

That being said I'm driving a 225k mile civic every day that I bought a couple years back for 1800 bucks.

YMMV.

SAUTO 12-27-2012 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9244561)
The reason you disagree is because you have the skills required to keep an old POS running.

Not true. I buy cars quite often from people.

Bought a 93 Taurus with 30,000 original miles for two hundred bucks a couple months ago. Guy was 100. Family didn't want him driving.

Sold it for 1500 and those people have had absolutely no issues.

Bought a 99 neon for three hundred, sold it for a grand. No problems in a year. Well nothing major.


Bought a 97 Olds 88 with a blown motor, put in an engine, had seven in it. Sold out for two thousand. That was nine months ago.
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Saul Good 12-27-2012 07:10 PM

Let me know what she needs and how much she has to spend in cash (if any) and I can probably get her something that will run reasonably well.

Bugeater 12-27-2012 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argo (Post 9244563)
lol. Wtf, a car isn't a luxury.

It's possible to get by without one.

KurtCobain 12-27-2012 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9244584)
It's possible to get by without one.

Not with small kids. and how do you get to work if you don't live by a busstop? How do you get the kids to day care/ School?

KurtCobain 12-27-2012 07:19 PM

McDonalds won't even give you a job without having a licenced car, unless you can prove your mom or roommate had one and is willing to drive you everyday.

KurtCobain 12-27-2012 07:26 PM

And how exactly did this Bitch get to the point where car got repoed? Sickens me the people that sit around and let that happen. You have a car, which means you have a legit shot at making money everyday even if you don't have a job. Between scrapping metal, doing errands for people and day to day temp services, nobody with a working vehicle should be broke enough to lose it.

Saul Good 12-27-2012 07:40 PM

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=201438

Here's an interesting thread in a similar vein.

burt 12-27-2012 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argo (Post 9244618)
And how exactly did this Bitch get to the point where car got repoed? Sickens me the people that sit around and let that happen. You have a car, which means you have a legit shot at making money everyday even if you don't have a job. Between scrapping metal, doing errands for people and day to day temp services, nobody with a working vehicle should be broke enough to lose it.

Judgmental much? Damn, you got all this shit figured out!

Bugeater 12-27-2012 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argo (Post 9244594)
Not with small kids. and how do you get to work if you don't live by a busstop? How do you get the kids to day care/ School?

Find a job closer to home, or a home closer to your job. School? I see these big slow-ass yellow things called school buses on the streets all the time.

Bwana 12-27-2012 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9244498)
Tell her to buy a $500 car that will last her a few months. Going to a buy here pay here lot is a recipe for disaster.

Without a doubt. If she goes to one of those hack outfits, she will end up paying 3k for a $500 car by the time the dust settles.

KurtCobain 12-27-2012 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burt (Post 9244646)
Judgmental much? Damn, you got all this shit figured out!

The OP pretty much threw the opinion of this lady under the bus. There's no excuse for these people.

Valiant 12-27-2012 09:01 PM

Yeah. She could buy a beater to last a year or two for under 2grand. But she needs someone trusty to buy/inspect and keep it running. But that is the problem.

El Jefe 12-27-2012 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9244565)
cash for clunkers destroyed the bottom end of the used car market, it drove up prices from the low end up.

This is my business day in and day out, that 1500 dollar car is gonna be a big POS in MOST CASES.

That being said I'm driving a 225k mile civic every day that I bought a couple years back for 1800 bucks.

YMMV.

I agree 100%, I have bought many cars in my young life, and in this economy you will be lucky to be able to find a running car for a thousand bucks. Jason, I hear what you're saying and I believe you, but in my area that is highly unlikely. I go to auctions and check CL and the paper, you will only find a solid car for a thousand bucks if you are in the right place at the right time. I have bought to cars for under a grand, they needed many repairs.

Bugeater 12-27-2012 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9244860)
I agree 100%, I have bought many cars in my young life, and in this economy you will be lucky to be able to find a running car for a thousand bucks. Jason, I hear what you're saying and I believe you, but in my area that is highly unlikely. I go to auctions and check CL and the paper, you will only find a solid car for a thousand bucks if you are in the right place at the right time. I have bought to cars for under a grand, they needed many repairs.

Yep, a while back I was looking at $1000 cars for my son. Out of the 20-25 I looked at, I only saw one that I would even consider letting him park in front of my house. They were that bad. You pretty much have to get up to at least the $2000 range for something decent.

Brock 12-27-2012 10:00 PM

Those gypsies will take her money and keep the car.

REDHOTGTO 12-27-2012 10:06 PM

as a former car salesman and finance man for 18 years tell her to take her tax return if she gets one and buy a cheap car from craigslist from an individual. stay with a buick, olds, chevy something with a 3800 v6 they are real reliable and cheap with some miles on them. shemay have to buy a car a year but its still better than making a payment on something that will never last out the loan from a buy pay dealer. she can also carry liability on it and save more that way too so its a win win. hope this helps
goat

J Diddy 12-27-2012 10:12 PM

Just curious how much she owed on the previous car and why won't they work something out with her? How much was she behind on payments? I've been in a bad spot with a car loan before but I've always worked it out ahead of time. However, I've had friends who have had vehicles repoed and worked it out with the bank the next day.

I'm also wondering if she was that far behind that she couldn't afford to make them up, how is she going to make a down, get tags, insurance, and then monthly payments?

LiveSteam 12-27-2012 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craash (Post 9244259)
My wife has a recently divorced friend who is a mess. She just had her car repo'ed today while at work.

Anyway, partly to keep my wife from becoming her taxi driver I'm putting feelers out for anyone that might know/own/work at a car place that caters to those with worse than bad credit and is less buzzardly than normal.

I'm of the opinion she hasn't hit bottom yet and won't turn things around until she does but she's deep into Lindsay Mode denial. The tough thing is she has two kids and the dad is threating to take her back to court to try and take away her custoday . . . . so my wife is struggling with it.

Any leads?


fire/aids tree/antifreeze/piihb/gaz

Heh.
Tell your wife to stay out it. Kid or kids sound like they would be better off with the father.
Even if he smokes pot & kills squirrels.

KurtCobain 12-27-2012 10:19 PM

Smoking pot and killing squirrels is the new drinking tea and reading a book.

LiveSteam 12-27-2012 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argo (Post 9244931)
Smoking pot and killing squirrels is the new drinking tea and reading a book.

Huckleberry Finn

SAUTO 12-27-2012 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9244860)
I agree 100%, I have bought many cars in my young life, and in this economy you will be lucky to be able to find a running car for a thousand bucks. Jason, I hear what you're saying and I believe you, but in my area that is highly unlikely. I go to auctions and check CL and the paper, you will only find a solid car for a thousand bucks if you are in the right place at the right time. I have bought to cars for under a grand, they needed many repairs.

Auctions are the problem...

Can't believe you aren't getting the same/BETTER deals with the nature of your business
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GloryDayz 12-27-2012 10:40 PM

Can she change a tire?

http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/TRC4775.jpg

LiveSteam 12-27-2012 10:41 PM

Bitch needs to ride the bus right to the bottom.

LiveSteam 12-27-2012 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9244979)

She's kinda funny looking.

edit. Her face has angels like a stealth fighter

GloryDayz 12-27-2012 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 9244985)
She's kinda funny looking.

edit. Her face has angels like a stealth fighter

Oh OK, I'd suffer through that sexual experience I guess!

KurtCobain 12-27-2012 10:55 PM

I thought that was a badass tattoo on her knee at first

LiveSteam 12-27-2012 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argo (Post 9245005)
I thought that was a badass tattoo on her knee at first

She has nice pink toe nails.

LiveSteam 12-27-2012 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9245000)
Oh OK, I'd suffer through that sexual experience I guess!

As would I

GloryDayz 12-27-2012 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 9245007)
She has nice pink toe nails.

And a running car too...

KurtCobain 12-27-2012 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 9245007)
She has nice pink toe nails.

I wonder if she stands up when she paints her toenails.

LiveSteam 12-27-2012 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9245010)
And a running car too...

Depending on what kind of car that is? The car could be hotter

GloryDayz 12-27-2012 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argo (Post 9245011)
I wonder if she stands up when she paints her toenails.

Of course....it's a rule...

LiveSteam 12-27-2012 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argo (Post 9245011)
I wonder if she stands up when she paints her toenails.

I cant touch my toes anymore

GloryDayz 12-27-2012 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 9245012)
Depending on what kind of car that is? The car could be hotter

Perhaps it was this, then she touched it, IDK... I'd let her touch me to see if it changes anything...

http://www.albany.ga.us/images/junk-car-web.jpg

LiveSteam 12-27-2012 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9245016)
Perhaps it was this, then she touched it, IDK... I'd let he touch me to see if it changes anything...

http://www.albany.ga.us/images/junk-car-web.jpg

FYP man

LiveSteam 12-27-2012 11:04 PM

Hurry before anyone sees

GloryDayz 12-27-2012 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 9245014)
I cant touch my toes anymore

There's hope..

http://www.belicove.com/archives/bel...lPedicure2.jpg

GloryDayz 12-27-2012 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 9245017)
FYP man

LOL, done..

LiveSteam 12-27-2012 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9245025)
LOL, done..

:p

GloryDayz 12-27-2012 11:14 PM

Did somebody get the girl a car?

J Diddy 12-27-2012 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9245044)
Did somebody get the girl a car?

I heard Gochiefs gave her a ride.

GloryDayz 12-27-2012 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9245053)
I heard Gochiefs gave her a ride.

She's gonna need another car seat!

mdstu 12-28-2012 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9244860)
I agree 100%, I have bought many cars in my young life, and in this economy you will be lucky to be able to find a running car for a thousand bucks. Jason, I hear what you're saying and I believe you, but in my area that is highly unlikely. I go to auctions and check CL and the paper, you will only find a solid car for a thousand bucks if you are in the right place at the right time. I have bought to cars for under a grand, they needed many repairs.

Same here in Cincinnati. I spent the last three years trying to upgrade my two POS cars. Its definitely been a sellers market since the "cash for clunkers" program. If it's less than 20 y/o, less than 200k mileage, and runs, $2000 probably won't cut it.

Titty Meat 12-28-2012 01:51 AM

This thread is pretty interesting because my car has been a money pit and ****ed up again on Christmas and I was thinking about going to a buy here pay here place.

El Jefe 12-28-2012 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9244966)
Auctions are the problem...

Can't believe you aren't getting the same/BETTER deals with the nature of your business
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Yeah auctions are a big issue, but the car market is saturated with junk that people think is worth something. Two years ago I bought a Supercharged 97 Riviera with a bad transmission for $400. I was thrilled, I figured I would have $500 or $600 into it (total of a grand) and sell it for 1500. Needless to say I have almost 3 grand into it now, and I will keep it until I get my moneys worth. Everyone in this area thinks that even though they car is broken that they can get top dollar, and a lot of idiots are paying high numbers on Craigs List. I had a chance to buy a 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee yesterday, it had 150K miles on it, it needed a cat. converter, transmission had internal issues, the tires were shot, and both pinion seals were leaking. That right there is $1200 at least (my cost), I figured if I could get the car for $500 I would still have some meat left. She tells me she has done some looking and has found cars like hers selling for $2500-$3000.00, I said, I believe that if they are in good running order which yours isn't. So I asked her again how much she wanted and she says "I won't take a dime under $1500". I told her that we were worlds apart, and that I would buy it for $500, she said that it was worth "at least $1500". Sometimes these interactions remind me of Pawn Stars, how people come in and want triple the value of their items (sometimes junk).

FAX 12-28-2012 07:27 AM

Dear Mr. Craash:

In a case of this nature, I suggest you consider contacting your local churches. Here in Nashville, cars are donated to churches all the time (I, myself, have done it). The donor is allowed a tax deduction and the church can use the vehicle for any number of purposes including giving said automobile to a person in need of transportation. For example, if it weren't for this system, many of the Lost Boys who relocated to Nashville would never have had a job or gone to school because they never would have had transportation. I'm sure other cities have similar programs.

Just an idea and probably worth a day of phone calls to local churches.

FAX

Bob Dole 12-28-2012 07:40 AM

Buy Here Pay Here is legalized loan sharking. Of all the shit people worry about Uncle Sugar "fixing" for them, this should be on the top of the list. But it's not even on the radar because as a group, they have their lobbying shit together.

Bob Dole could go to one of many pawn shops locally and buy a $1500 vehicle that would last for at least a year. The trick to getting out of the hole is that she's going to have to make a monthly "car payment" to herself to a dedicated account so if/when it requires a repair that's not feasible, she has the money to replace it.

R8RFAN 12-28-2012 07:40 AM

Cash for clunkers killed all the good used cars and jacked up the prices on the junk left....

R8RFAN 12-28-2012 07:42 AM

Payday Loans, Buy Here Pay Here places, Tv rental centers are parasites that prey on the poor. Total scumbags.

scho63 12-28-2012 07:43 AM

Here's how you help her with a simple "Ten Step" program and you at the same time:

Step one: Set up a private room in your house

Step two: Put ad up on Chiefs Planet, Eros and Craigslist for her services at $300 per hour

Step three: Let her do her thing 6 times a day for one week. $1,800 a day x 5 days = $9,000

Step four: Give her $6,000, you keep $3,000

Step five: She gives you a "freebie" for helping her out

Step six: She buys her car

Step seven: Kick her out and disinfect the room

Step eight: Start thread on CP bragging about your recent business success

Step nine: Post photos on CP

Step ten: Draft Geno Smith

This looks like a winning formula to me! :D

ChiliConCarnage 12-28-2012 08:13 AM

move step 5 up to step 2.

El Jefe 12-28-2012 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 9245449)
Buy Here Pay Here is legalized loan sharking. Of all the shit people worry about Uncle Sugar "fixing" for them, this should be on the top of the list. But it's not even on the radar because as a group, they have their lobbying shit together.

Bob Dole could go to one of many pawn shops locally and buy a $1500 vehicle that would last for at least a year. The trick to getting out of the hole is that she's going to have to make a monthly "car payment" to herself to a dedicated account so if/when it requires a repair that's not feasible, she has the money to replace it.

Maybe if you were lucky.

Lzen 12-28-2012 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REDHOTGTO (Post 9244902)
as a former car salesman and finance man for 18 years tell her to take her tax return if she gets one and buy a cheap car from craigslist from an individual. stay with a buick, olds, chevy something with a 3800 v6 they are real reliable and cheap with some miles on them. shemay have to buy a car a year but its still better than making a payment on something that will never last out the loan from a buy pay dealer. she can also carry liability on it and save more that way too so its a win win. hope this helps
goat

ROFL

Dayze 12-28-2012 08:42 AM

my 2nd car I bought for $700; 85 Camry back in 96. 275k miles; returned from my Navy A-School and drove it out to California. back in the pre-cell phone days, I can't believe I made that trip alone lol.

but yeah as someone mentioned, the cash for clunkers killed a good used car market.

Bob Dole 12-28-2012 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9245490)
Maybe if you were lucky.

You know, if Bob Dole wasn't saving to buy a tractor, he'd be seriously tempted to accept that challenge. :)

El Jefe 12-28-2012 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 9245502)
ROFL

The 3.8 motor is a great motor. I have had a 2000 Buick LeSabre that I bought at 72k miles and took it to over 200k before I sold it, not a single issue outside of brakes, tires, general maint. They are pretty good cars if you get them with low mileage.

El Jefe 12-28-2012 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 9245525)
You know, if Bob Dole wasn't saving to buy a tractor, he'd be seriously tempted to accept that challenge. :)

That's hilarious, I am too. What are you trying to buy? I'm looking for either a good old Farmall, or a Ford 8N.

Bob Dole 12-28-2012 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9245547)
That's hilarious, I am too. What are you trying to buy? I'm looking for either a good old Farmall, or a Ford 8N.

Just something with a bucket that will handle a bush hog. BIL called yesterday and found a JD 750 for $3600 that has Bob Dole's attention. Bob Dole is going to defer to said BIL's trained JD mechanic expertise and 25+ years of farming experience to select the correct tool. Bob Dole doesn't know shit about tractors.


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