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Saulbadguy 10-19-2009 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6188128)
Hahah. I have a nice rig, but I'll be playing it on the 360, just because that's how I played COD 4-1. I think the game was made to be played on consoles, but I can't be a true judge because the only COD I played on PC was the original one.

The only true PC mutliplayer shooter to me always has and always will be Counter-Strike. The BF series as well I guess, but I never played them competitively.

I've played on both platforms. I've had nearly every console made starting with the Atari 2600 to present, and have had a gaming PC since DOS 5. FPS was born on PC, evolved on PC, and was then dumbed down for consoles. Now the reverse is happening, which is pretty sad - but it's a sign of the times, and I can't blame companies for wanting to maximize their profits.

KCChiefsMan 10-19-2009 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 6188377)
I've played on both platforms. I've had nearly every console made starting with the Atari 2600 to present, and have had a gaming PC since DOS 5. FPS was born on PC, evolved on PC, and was then dumbed down for consoles. Now the reverse is happening, which is pretty sad - but it's a sign of the times, and I can't blame companies for wanting to maximize their profits.

I have a pretty sweet gaming PC and I cannot run an FPS, every other game runs great but not shooters for some reason, that alone is why I go with console

Saulbadguy 10-19-2009 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan (Post 6188415)
I have a pretty sweet gaming PC and I cannot run an FPS, every other game runs great but not shooters for some reason, that alone is why I go with console

You either don't have a very good gaming PC, or you don't know how to configure it, or the games properly.

I have a fairly crappy PC, most parts are several years old (2006-2007) and it runs every game out there pretty well, and they look better than their console counterparts.

Pants 10-19-2009 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 6188437)
You either don't have a very good gaming PC, or you don't know how to configure it, or the games properly.

I have a fairly crappy PC, most parts are several years old (2006-2007) and it runs every game out there pretty well, and they look better than their console counterparts.

How does it run Crysis? That's what is used to benchmark gaming PC's nowadays.

As far as dumbing shooters down for consoles - there's no such thing. It actually takes a lot more skill to be good at FPS on a console than it does on a PC.

And yeah, hardware issues is why a lot of people go with consoles as well. A person running QUAD-SLI w/ 295's is going to have an edge on you in COD 4-2 any way you look at it. With consoles, everyone is on equal ground unless you have a shitty ISP.

Raiderhater58 10-19-2009 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding (Post 5616989)
O I C

I'm undecided whether I should get this on PS3 or 360.3333233333

360 if youre an onliner. PS3's multiplayer is crap compared to XBOX Live. I have both systems and theres no comparison. Theres a reason Live costs 50 bucks a year.

Saulbadguy 10-19-2009 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6188642)
How does it run Crysis? That's what is used to benchmark gaming PC's nowadays.

As far as dumbing shooters down for consoles - there's no such thing. It actually takes a lot more skill to be good at FPS on a console than it does on a PC.

And yeah, hardware issues is why a lot of people go with consoles as well. A person running QUAD-SLI w/ 295's is going to have an edge on you in COD 4-2 any way you look at it. With consoles, everyone is on equal ground unless you have a shitty ISP.

Dumbing down meaning watered down graphics, options, configs, mod options, etc.

As far as skill goes, I suppose you are right. It is tougher to maneuver with an inferior control set - but most of the players you will run in to on LIVE/PSN are going to be dumbasses anyways.

Pants 10-19-2009 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 6188785)
Dumbing down meaning watered down graphics, options, configs, mod options, etc.

As far as skill goes, I suppose you are right. It is tougher to maneuver with an inferior control set - but most of the players you will run in to on LIVE/PSN are going to be dumbasses anyways.

Yeah, easy pickins until you find the elite. I agree about the mods, but as far as graphics are concerned, that's the price you pay for having the optimal settings for everyone. You, yourself, said that turning down graphics is a part of PC gaming - and it's the shitty part when you're facing someone with a system two times more powerful than yours.

Consoles are winning because they're more accessible (dumbed down, if you will) and the piracy isn't nearly as rampant. To turn any kind of significant profit on a PC, you pretty much have to invest 5 years into developing an MMO and hope to get ~5% of WoW's market, lol.

007 10-19-2009 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhater58 (Post 6188757)
360 if youre an onliner. PS3's multiplayer is crap compared to XBOX Live. I have both systems and theres no comparison. Theres a reason Live costs 50 bucks a year.

I have no problem with PS3 for online. I have played on both and see no difference at all on the COD series. Hell my son played nightly and never had a problem on either console.

I'll stick to free.

Mr. Plow 10-21-2009 11:59 AM

http://www.fourzerotwo.com/?p=745

Modern Warfare 2 For PC


<!--/post-title --> On 10.20.09, In Video Games, By fourzerotwo

I recently broke news on a PC community member’s podcast that Modern Warfare 2 would be introducing a completely new backend infastructure called IWNET that would allow matchmaking for multiplayer games on PC. The news, by default, means no more browsing through a Server List for a server with the settings / ping you want among other things, and sent shockwaves through the hardcore PC community, leading to many more questions than answers as to ‘HOW’ this would work, and if it would really be better for the PC community as a whole.

Questions, assumptions, and speculation I intend to dispel.

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 is actually the biggest investment Infinity Ward has ever made into the PC version of our games. It’s also the most feature-rich PC version we’ve ever made. IWNET takes the benefits of dedicated servers and allows them to be utilized and accessed by every player, out of the box, while removing the barrier to entry for players unaware of how to maintain a server on their own.

How does it do this?

Matchmaking & Smoother Gameplay
: When you want to player a multiplayer game on PC, in the past. You’d have to scroll through a Server Browser which listed every available server which was hosted by individual server admins. Each had their own private rules, mods, or ways of playing the game. Most players would also use the server browser to find just the best quality game (based on PING). With IWNET matchmaking, it takes all that into account for you. All you have to do is select the playlist (pre-set gametypes with custom rules) that fits the style of play you are in the mood for. When you do, it will automatically find you a game with the best performance, ping, and preferences based on your location and individual connection as well as matching you with players of your same SKILL. So you’re always guaranteed the best game performance for where you are and what connection you’re playing on as well as an equal game with other players of your same skill level, not rank, but skill level. It doesn’t mean you’ll just be thrown into a random game! It will put you in the game that will give you the smoothest gameplay possible without you having to manually find a server with the best ping.

Playlists and Private Matches:
As I described above, Playlists are pre-set game modes and gametypes for public games. If you just want to jump into a public game of Search and Destroy or Hardcore Search and Destroy and you don’t care about fully customizing it, then you can utilize playlists to do that quickly for you. However, say you’re in a clan and you want to play a Clan match with another team, or you want to practice for an upcoming tournament that has specific rules in a private game. Then you can start a Private Match (which is essentially like running your own private server) where you have complete control over the rules, who can join, boot players you don’t want, and essentially control the entire game or tweak it to your liking. Once the rules are set, you can invite the other team in or just start it up with your clan to practice with the custom rules before the match. This now allows you to play custom games out of the box without the need to install mods, find a modded server with the rules you like, or worry about not being in control of the match.

Party System and Friendslist:
Modern Warfare 2 on PC also makes it much easier if you want to party up with your friends, or again, with your clan for a match. You can utilize the friendslist to see when your friends are online, and invite them to your Party. A Party allows you to move from game to game as a group. It’s great for clan matches, because you can party of with your clan and move from public game to public game together. Or if you’re doing a scrim, party up and invite the other clan (who is in a party) and they’ll all join at once. Set up a private match together and play. It makes setting up scrims or games with friends easier and hassle free.

Cheat / Hack Free Games
: The biggest benefit of using IWnet by far is the fact that you don’t have to worry about joining a server full of aim-bots, wallhacks, or cheaters. Or relying on the server admin of the server to constantly be monitoring, banning, and policing it. Modern Warfare 2 on PC allows us to control the quality of the game much more than ever before as well as utilizing the VAC (Valve-Anti-Cheat) system to keep games clean of hackers and cheaters.

All in all, IWNET adds a load of new features that the PC version of our games have never had before and allows us an infrastructure to continue to update and improve on the game post-launch.

Pants 10-21-2009 12:08 PM

Man, I started to play COD4-1 again last night to warm up for this after like a 6-month hiatus, I forgot how awesome the game is. Dang.

Saulbadguy 10-21-2009 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 6193449)
http://www.fourzerotwo.com/?p=745

Modern Warfare 2 For PC


<!--/post-title --> On 10.20.09, In Video Games, By fourzerotwo

I recently broke news on a PC community member’s podcast that Modern Warfare 2 would be introducing a completely new backend infastructure called IWNET that would allow matchmaking for multiplayer games on PC. The news, by default, means no more browsing through a Server List for a server with the settings / ping you want among other things, and sent shockwaves through the hardcore PC community, leading to many more questions than answers as to ‘HOW’ this would work, and if it would really be better for the PC community as a whole.

Questions, assumptions, and speculation I intend to dispel.

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 is actually the biggest investment Infinity Ward has ever made into the PC version of our games. It’s also the most feature-rich PC version we’ve ever made. IWNET takes the benefits of dedicated servers and allows them to be utilized and accessed by every player, out of the box, while removing the barrier to entry for players unaware of how to maintain a server on their own.

How does it do this?

Matchmaking & Smoother Gameplay
: When you want to player a multiplayer game on PC, in the past. You’d have to scroll through a Server Browser which listed every available server which was hosted by individual server admins. Each had their own private rules, mods, or ways of playing the game. Most players would also use the server browser to find just the best quality game (based on PING). With IWNET matchmaking, it takes all that into account for you. All you have to do is select the playlist (pre-set gametypes with custom rules) that fits the style of play you are in the mood for. When you do, it will automatically find you a game with the best performance, ping, and preferences based on your location and individual connection as well as matching you with players of your same SKILL. So you’re always guaranteed the best game performance for where you are and what connection you’re playing on as well as an equal game with other players of your same skill level, not rank, but skill level. It doesn’t mean you’ll just be thrown into a random game! It will put you in the game that will give you the smoothest gameplay possible without you having to manually find a server with the best ping.

Playlists and Private Matches:
As I described above, Playlists are pre-set game modes and gametypes for public games. If you just want to jump into a public game of Search and Destroy or Hardcore Search and Destroy and you don’t care about fully customizing it, then you can utilize playlists to do that quickly for you. However, say you’re in a clan and you want to play a Clan match with another team, or you want to practice for an upcoming tournament that has specific rules in a private game. Then you can start a Private Match (which is essentially like running your own private server) where you have complete control over the rules, who can join, boot players you don’t want, and essentially control the entire game or tweak it to your liking. Once the rules are set, you can invite the other team in or just start it up with your clan to practice with the custom rules before the match. This now allows you to play custom games out of the box without the need to install mods, find a modded server with the rules you like, or worry about not being in control of the match.

Party System and Friendslist:
Modern Warfare 2 on PC also makes it much easier if you want to party up with your friends, or again, with your clan for a match. You can utilize the friendslist to see when your friends are online, and invite them to your Party. A Party allows you to move from game to game as a group. It’s great for clan matches, because you can party of with your clan and move from public game to public game together. Or if you’re doing a scrim, party up and invite the other clan (who is in a party) and they’ll all join at once. Set up a private match together and play. It makes setting up scrims or games with friends easier and hassle free.

Cheat / Hack Free Games
: The biggest benefit of using IWnet by far is the fact that you don’t have to worry about joining a server full of aim-bots, wallhacks, or cheaters. Or relying on the server admin of the server to constantly be monitoring, banning, and policing it. Modern Warfare 2 on PC allows us to control the quality of the game much more than ever before as well as utilizing the VAC (Valve-Anti-Cheat) system to keep games clean of hackers and cheaters.

All in all, IWNET adds a load of new features that the PC version of our games have never had before and allows us an infrastructure to continue to update and improve on the game post-launch.

ROFL

FAIL!!! I won't be spending $60 on Call of Duty 4 for PC that has been stripped of features.

Shag 10-21-2009 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 6193449)
http://www.fourzerotwo.com/?p=745

Modern Warfare 2 For PC


<!--/post-title --> On 10.20.09, In Video Games, By fourzerotwo

I recently broke news on a PC community member’s podcast that Modern Warfare 2 would be introducing a completely new backend infastructure called IWNET that would allow matchmaking for multiplayer games on PC. The news, by default, means no more browsing through a Server List for a server with the settings / ping you want among other things, and sent shockwaves through the hardcore PC community, leading to many more questions than answers as to ‘HOW’ this would work, and if it would really be better for the PC community as a whole.

Questions, assumptions, and speculation I intend to dispel.

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 is actually the biggest investment Infinity Ward has ever made into the PC version of our games. It’s also the most feature-rich PC version we’ve ever made. IWNET takes the benefits of dedicated servers and allows them to be utilized and accessed by every player, out of the box, while removing the barrier to entry for players unaware of how to maintain a server on their own.

How does it do this?

Matchmaking & Smoother Gameplay
: When you want to player a multiplayer game on PC, in the past. You’d have to scroll through a Server Browser which listed every available server which was hosted by individual server admins. Each had their own private rules, mods, or ways of playing the game. Most players would also use the server browser to find just the best quality game (based on PING). With IWNET matchmaking, it takes all that into account for you. All you have to do is select the playlist (pre-set gametypes with custom rules) that fits the style of play you are in the mood for. When you do, it will automatically find you a game with the best performance, ping, and preferences based on your location and individual connection as well as matching you with players of your same SKILL. So you’re always guaranteed the best game performance for where you are and what connection you’re playing on as well as an equal game with other players of your same skill level, not rank, but skill level. It doesn’t mean you’ll just be thrown into a random game! It will put you in the game that will give you the smoothest gameplay possible without you having to manually find a server with the best ping.

Playlists and Private Matches:
As I described above, Playlists are pre-set game modes and gametypes for public games. If you just want to jump into a public game of Search and Destroy or Hardcore Search and Destroy and you don’t care about fully customizing it, then you can utilize playlists to do that quickly for you. However, say you’re in a clan and you want to play a Clan match with another team, or you want to practice for an upcoming tournament that has specific rules in a private game. Then you can start a Private Match (which is essentially like running your own private server) where you have complete control over the rules, who can join, boot players you don’t want, and essentially control the entire game or tweak it to your liking. Once the rules are set, you can invite the other team in or just start it up with your clan to practice with the custom rules before the match. This now allows you to play custom games out of the box without the need to install mods, find a modded server with the rules you like, or worry about not being in control of the match.

Party System and Friendslist:
Modern Warfare 2 on PC also makes it much easier if you want to party up with your friends, or again, with your clan for a match. You can utilize the friendslist to see when your friends are online, and invite them to your Party. A Party allows you to move from game to game as a group. It’s great for clan matches, because you can party of with your clan and move from public game to public game together. Or if you’re doing a scrim, party up and invite the other clan (who is in a party) and they’ll all join at once. Set up a private match together and play. It makes setting up scrims or games with friends easier and hassle free.

Cheat / Hack Free Games
: The biggest benefit of using IWnet by far is the fact that you don’t have to worry about joining a server full of aim-bots, wallhacks, or cheaters. Or relying on the server admin of the server to constantly be monitoring, banning, and policing it. Modern Warfare 2 on PC allows us to control the quality of the game much more than ever before as well as utilizing the VAC (Valve-Anti-Cheat) system to keep games clean of hackers and cheaters.

All in all, IWNET adds a load of new features that the PC version of our games have never had before and allows us an infrastructure to continue to update and improve on the game post-launch.

That's a pretty weak response...

Saulbadguy 10-21-2009 12:33 PM

Since we are all going through IW's servers, why don't they allow PC and console players to play together? After all it's painfully clear that the PC version is just a port of the 360 version.

Man i'd love to tee off on the XBL players.

Mr. Plow 10-21-2009 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6193471)
Man, I started to play COD4-1 again last night to warm up for this after like a 6-month hiatus, I forgot how awesome the game is. Dang.

No shit. I started really back into it about a month ago. I had stopped at 7th or 8th prestige. I prestiged up and started from scratch again....now I'm playing it like it's brand new. Fun as shit.

Pants 10-21-2009 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 6193515)
ROFL

FAIL!!! I won't be spending $60 on Call of Duty 4 for PC that has been stripped of features.

No hacks - no deal, huh?


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