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ChiliConCarnage 02-19-2013 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9414932)
So if they are both the same guy, why was Bradford the consensus #1 when he came out and the experts have been sort of blah about Geno? I dont get it....

The person who made the comparisons in the article has the Chiefs taking Geno Smith #1 overall.

They're just comparisons to player type though I think. I doubt he believes Kenny Vaccaro is going to have the same kind of career Charles Woodson did. He just means he's a hybrid type safety.

Mr. Laz 02-19-2013 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9414815)
Geno combine must face **** the combine to shut naysayer assholes up.

will he throw at the combine?

htismaqe 02-19-2013 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9415341)
will he throw at the combine?

He said he will.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-19-2013 11:32 AM

college w/l record is teh most important over skillz and teh intagibles HERP DERP DERP DERP!
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MahiMike 02-19-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9413451)
I've always thought Bradford was overrated, especially since his surrounding talent at OU was phenomenal.

And LOL at Fisher for sticking with this guy when you could have had RG3. So glad we didn't hire Fisher here. We would have continued our excellence of 8-8.

Yeah, I'm sure those 4 1st-round picks in the next 2 drafts will pale in comparison to broke-knee RG3.

Chiefnj2 02-19-2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9415086)
I think it's based on a few sideline incidents. I didn't see those incidents, I'm just passing on what I heard. I believe Smith's coaches and teammates have downplayed those incidents too. That's why I said I wasn't sure how fair the comparisons are.

Holgorsen pretty directly stated that Smith tried to press and force things, exacerbating the blowout (via KStateSports):

"He was, and we all were. We talked about it all week. ‘Don't get impatient. Don't get impatient.' You have the ball a couple of times and you look up there and you're down 17 points. You start pressing. It's inevitable. We were trying to score 14 points in one play. That is just not very good offensive football. You can't have that mindset."

BWillie 02-19-2013 11:58 AM

Exactly. Very similar to Sam Bradford, which is the very reason I don't want to draft him #1.

ct 02-19-2013 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9413451)
I've always thought Bradford was overrated, especially since his surrounding talent at OU was phenomenal.

And LOL at Fisher for sticking with this guy when you could have had RG3. So glad we didn't hire Fisher here. We would have continued our excellence of 8-8.

They didn't necessarily choose Bradford over RG3.

They chose to keep developing Bradford plus

Moving down to #6 (traded again to Dallas for #14 DT Michael Brockers and #45, traded again to Bears for #50 RB Isaiah Pead, outplayed by 7th round RB Daryl Washington, and #150 OT Watkins, whom I know nothing about) Note Chicago used #45 on WR Alshon Jeffrey, whom I think would have helped STL more than Brian Quick, or Pead and a 5th round OT.
and 2nd round #39 CB Janoris Jenkins
and 2013 1st round pick (#22)
and 2014 1st round pick (TBD)

Worth it? Only time will tell, but two 1st round picks the next couple years is a good position to build around Bradford IMO.

ModSocks 02-19-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 9415546)
Exactly. Very similar to Sam Bradford, which is the very reason I don't want to draft him #1.

I musta missed all the Bradford comparisons you were making prior to this thread.

Bowser 02-19-2013 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 9415546)
Exactly. Very similar to Sam Bradford, which is the very reason I don't want to draft him #1.

What exactly are they similar with? Height?

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-19-2013 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9415603)
What exactly are they similar with? Height?

Skin color.
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buddha 02-19-2013 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9413467)
I think Geno's arm is much better than Bradford's ... but that's just me.

I think Geno's arm is significantly better than Bradford's. I also think that Glennon is going to be the biggest QB bust from this draft. I hate that skinny, weak bitch. Comparing him to Flacco is IN-FREAKING-SANE. Flacco can throw the ball harder/farther in his sleep.

Geno Smith is a terrific QB and I think he'll be a very good pro.

duncan_idaho 02-19-2013 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 9415546)
Exactly. Very similar to Sam Bradford, which is the very reason I don't want to draft him #1.

... except Smith:

1) Has a better arm than Bradford (can't wait to see him throw at the combine following his work at IMG)
2) Faced much more adversity in college (more pressure, less time to throw, much worse defense)
3) is a better athlete/more mobile than Bradford

silver5liter 02-19-2013 01:16 PM

Bucky on 610 right now, says if he had the first pick he would take geno and in his experience with Reid he believes he will pick him too

RealSNR 02-19-2013 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9415722)
Bucky on 610 right now, says if he had the first pick he would take geno and in his experience with Reid he believes he will pick him too

Bam.


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