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FRCDFED 08-19-2011 10:20 AM

Alex Smith to Chiefs?
 
2011 NFL Trade Rumors – Alex Smith to Chiefs?

August 18, 2011 08:10 PM EDT

comments: 1

Alex Smith has been given several opportunities to win over the front office and fans of the San Francisco 49ers, but the former NFL first-round draft pick has been inconsistent throughout his career, and it could be time for a change in scenery.

The 49ers drafted a quarterback for their future and now are looking to bring in a veteran quarterback to lead the team for a year and let Colin Kaepernick learn the ropes from someone other than Smith.

The latest trade rumor has Smith being sent to the Kansas City Chiefs in a deal that will give Smith a fresh start, and the Chiefs badly needed backup to Matt Cassel. Kansas City now has just rookie fifth-round draft choice Ricky Stanzi as the teams backup, and an injury to Cassel could be harmful to the team's success in the upcoming NFL season.

The good news for Chiefs fans is that Smith would be a cheap acquisition, and it would give the team some much-needed insurance at the quarterback position. If San Francisco brings in a veteran in the next week or two, look for Smith to become a member of a different team before the season begins.

FRCDFED 08-19-2011 10:20 AM

Could Zorn help Smith develop?

keg in kc 08-19-2011 10:21 AM

9ers qbs always work out well here.

tymania 08-19-2011 10:22 AM

this is interesting... if he is cheap i dont see any harm in bringing him in...

lcarus 08-19-2011 10:22 AM

See ya Falko

FRCDFED 08-19-2011 10:22 AM

Yeah the article was dated yesterday. Surprised this is the first I've heard of it.

Hydrae 08-19-2011 10:23 AM

Quote:

Kansas City now has just rookie fifth-round draft choice Ricky Stanzi as the teams backup
I know Calabeloo isn't anything exciting but when the author is speculating about a teams interest in a player is would be a good thing to know who the team already has onboard.

SuperChief 08-19-2011 10:23 AM

Nothing wrong with this addition, for the right price of course. I'd take him over Falko any day of the week (and that's saying something about Falko).

FRCDFED 08-19-2011 10:24 AM

The 49ers have been in chaos since he was drafted with all the coaching changes. I wonder if he would see a trade as a fresh start and settle down with a little stability.

DJ's left nut 08-19-2011 10:24 AM

I'd take him.

Alex Smith's failure still doesn't make sense to me. He has a very nice arm, he's mobile, he's a hard worker and the kid is actually very smart.

His coaching has to have been complete dogshit because I swear that kid has the talent to be at least an average NFL quarterback. I think that's why the 9ers keep giving him a chance; the talent is there.

If he comes for a 5th rounder or something, sure - I'd take him.

ModSocks 08-19-2011 10:24 AM

Better than Tyler Calabalo I guess.

FRCDFED 08-19-2011 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7835505)
I'd take him.

Alex Smith's failure still doesn't make sense to me. He has a very nice arm, he's mobile, he's a hard worker and the kid is actually very smart.

His coaching has to have been complete dogshit because I swear that kid has the talent to be at least an average NFL quarterback. I think that's why the 9ers keep giving him a chance; the talent is there.

If he comes for a 5th rounder or something, sure - I'd take him.

This

I always heard the kid was really smart. Didn't he graduate college his sophmore year or something crazy like that?

ModSocks 08-19-2011 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7835505)
I'd take him.

Alex Smith's failure still doesn't make sense to me. He has a very nice arm, he's mobile, he's a hard worker and the kid is actually very smart.

His coaching has to have been complete dogshit because I swear that kid has the talent to be at least an average NFL quarterback. I think that's why the 9ers keep giving him a chance; the talent is there.

If he comes for a 5th rounder or something, sure - I'd take him.

This. Though I'd prefer it be something like a 6th or 7th.

Brock 08-19-2011 10:25 AM

That would be a good move.

Mr. Arrowhead 08-19-2011 10:25 AM

a million times better than Falco

Fansy the Famous Bard 08-19-2011 10:26 AM

I would give up a 6th at most. We've had good value in the 5th and would hate to use that on a 1 yr rental backup QB.

He is currently under a 1 yr contract with SF for $4 mil, with up to $900k in incentives.

nychief 08-19-2011 10:27 AM

Just wait till they release him.

FRCDFED 08-19-2011 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 7835511)
I would give up a 6th at most. We've had good value in the 5th and would hate to use that on a 1 yr rental backup QB.

He is currently under a 1 yr contract with SF for $4 mil, with up to $900k in incentives.

Smith hasn't done anything to prove he is a #1 QB. Idk if he would get any offers to be a starting QB after this season. If he likes the environment in KC then he may be our backup for a while. I don't like the idea of slowing Stanzi's growth but if Smith works out then I would like to think he would resign with us.

Deberg_1990 08-19-2011 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRCDFED (Post 7835491)
Could Zorn help Smith develop?

No...a player sucks because he sucks. If Smith hasnt gotten it by now, hes never going to get it.

gblowfish 08-19-2011 10:32 AM

Remind him not to diss the food in KC....

Trade Brokie for him!

boogblaster 08-19-2011 10:34 AM

maybe ....

durtyrute 08-19-2011 10:38 AM

Make it happen

Bump 08-19-2011 10:40 AM

I'd take him over Palko for sure, I'd take anybody over Palko for that matter though.

ForeverChiefs58 08-19-2011 11:21 AM

Alex smith isn't worth any draft pick whatsoevah. He sucks really bad. Any 49er fan will do cartwheels at talk of getting him off the team. If Cassel goes down Smith would be much, much worse. This season is prob doomed if Cassel fails. I think it would be better to use the draft pick we already spent and let Stanzi take his best shot.

Mosbonian 08-19-2011 11:22 AM

If he can be had for the right price bring him in. It's a whole lot better than what we have now.

Mosbonian 08-19-2011 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 7835732)
Alex smith isn't worth any draft pick whatsoevah. He sucks really bad. Any 49er fan will do cartwheels at talk of getting him off the team. If Cassel goes down Smith would be much, much worse. This season is prob doomed if Cassel fails. I think it would be better to use the draft pick we already spent and let Stanzi take his best shot.

I am trying to see what everyone likes about Stanzi.....maybe someone can enlighten me as to why he isn't anything more than Brodie Croyle revisited.

ModSocks 08-19-2011 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 7835575)
I'd take him over Palko for sure, I'd take anybody over Palko for that matter though.

Who?

Oh you mean Calabalo. Yeah, Calabalo needs to go.

ModSocks 08-19-2011 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dsnyfn (Post 7835740)
maybe someone can enlighten me as to why he isn't anything more than Brodie Croyle revisited.

Well, He's isn't on I.R for starters...

the Talking Can 08-19-2011 11:25 AM

sure...for a 6th


stanzi would be best served by not playing this year....

Mr. Laz 08-19-2011 11:26 AM

as long as it's cheap,cheap,cheap

6th round pick?

Demonpenz 08-19-2011 11:26 AM

don't stanzi close to me

MahiMike 08-19-2011 11:27 AM

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Brock 08-19-2011 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dsnyfn (Post 7835740)
I am trying to see what everyone likes about Stanzi.....maybe someone can enlighten me as to why he isn't anything more than Brodie Croyle revisited.

Well, he isn't a proven failure for one thing.

Okie_Apparition 08-19-2011 11:34 AM

I hope they let Nick Wright do a background check on Smith before any trade offers are made

Pasta Little Brioni 08-19-2011 11:35 AM

For the right price, it couldn't hurt, better than what we have, he can jump the ropes with Stanzi, yada yada, yada...

HotRoute 08-19-2011 11:39 AM

It would be interesting to see cassels reaction to having a backup like smith.

Remember the days of huard and croyle? That was a rough time for chiefs fans

Bump 08-19-2011 11:40 AM

On second thought, there have been a lot of former #1 pick QB busts out there that moved around to other teams because they sucked. NONE of them ever worked out anywhere else.

I change my vote to PASS

sign up somebody else for a back up.

ChiefsCountry 08-19-2011 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 7835803)
On second thought, there have been a lot of former #1 pick QB busts out there that moved around to other teams because they sucked. NONE of them ever worked out anywhere else.

Jim Plunkett, Vinny Testervade say whats up.

RustShack 08-19-2011 11:43 AM

Why isn't Boss in here yet raising hell? Or is he busy crying? Stanzi da manzi!!!1!11! America #1 Cassel sucks!!¡10ne1!!

the Talking Can 08-19-2011 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotRoute (Post 7835799)
It would be interesting to see cassels reaction to having a backup like smith.

Remember the days of huard and croyle? That was a rough time for chiefs fans

why he care about a career failure as backup?


and wtf do huard and croyle have to do with anything?

Bump 08-19-2011 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7835807)
Jim Plunkett, Vinny Testervade say whats up.

ha, 2 outta 100 ain't bad I guess

ForeverChiefs58 08-19-2011 11:46 AM

The thing is, Alex Smith is NOT better than anything we have. He sux like Palko. For anyone who hasnt watched him, I have, and I dont see him winning one game. Alex Smith, QB, or winning does not belong in the same sentence together. He is not worth a 7th rd pick in 2020. He is not worth a PB and J sandwich.

ChiefsCountry 08-19-2011 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 7835827)
ha, 2 outta 100 ain't bad I guess

Jeff George did well after his first team as well. All bc Couch and Russell sucked major dick doesn't mean they are all true busts.

RustShack 08-19-2011 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 7835832)
The thing is, Alex Smith is NOT better than anything we have. He sux like Palko. For anyone who hasnt watched him, I have, and I dont see him winning one game. Alex Smith, QB, or winning does not belong in the same sentence together. He is not worth a 7th rd pick in 2020. He is not worth a PB and J sandwich.

A little overboard there. He has won a few games on a worse team. He also has experience at least and talent. He's better than Palco who is currently our #2.

keg in kc 08-19-2011 11:51 AM

I get saying he sucks. He's been a bust as a #1. But saying he's Palko? Good grief.

the Talking Can 08-19-2011 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 7835832)
The thing is, Alex Smith is NOT better than anything we have. He sux like Palko. For anyone who hasnt watched him, I have, and I dont see him winning one game. Alex Smith, QB, or winning does not belong in the same sentence together. He is not worth a 7th rd pick in 2020. He is not worth a PB and J sandwich.

he's a lot better and more experienced than palko

chiefqueen 08-19-2011 11:53 AM

Do I want somebody on the team Tambe treated like a rag doll last year?

the Talking Can 08-19-2011 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefqueen (Post 7835860)
Do I want somebody on the team Tambe treated like a rag doll last year?

we aren't signing a Tackle...he's a backup QB


hey people, backup QBs have flaws....hence their being backups

chiefqueen 08-19-2011 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7835869)
we aren't signing a Tackle...he's a backup QB


hey people, backup QBs have flaws....hence their being backups

Have you seen the Chiefs 2010 yearbook?

Rooster 08-19-2011 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 7835744)
Well, He's isn't on I.R for starters...

ROFL That's a good point.

the Talking Can 08-19-2011 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefqueen (Post 7835874)
Have you seen the Chiefs 2010 yearbook?

do you drink green tea?

Brock 08-19-2011 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7835881)
do you drink green tea?

LMAO

ForeverChiefs58 08-19-2011 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 7835845)
A little overboard there. He has won a few games on a worse team. He also has experience at least and talent. He's better than Palco who is currently our #2.

If u watched any 49er games, it is not overboard at all. Alex Smith was benched last year in favor of Troy Smith who won more games than A. Smith and is out of football now. The only reason Alex Smith is still on the roster is cause of where he was drafted. He sux in epic proportions. He makes Croyle look like Brady.

Thig Lyfe 08-19-2011 12:10 PM

Maybe he can be our QB coach next year!!!

JD10367 08-19-2011 12:15 PM

Remember what you're talking about here. Backup quarterback. Not the Chiefs' team leader of the future. Backup. If he comes cheap, it's an absolute no-brainer.

Alex Smith has thrown for almost 10,000 yards and over 50 touchdowns.

Palko has thrown for 35 yards. And no touchdowns. And is almost a year older than Alex Smith.

No one will confuse Alex Smith with Peyton or Brady any time soon. But anyone who thinks he's equal to Palko is a ****ing moron.

ForeverChiefs58 08-19-2011 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7835851)
he's a lot better and more experienced than palko

Alex Smith isn't a lot better than my mother. He has a lot of experience losing and turning the ball over.

Skyy God 08-19-2011 12:27 PM

$4M and a pick in 2012. Pass on el-busto.

Sofa King 08-19-2011 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pittsie (Post 7835984)
$4M and a pick in 2012. Pass on el-busto.

You're complaining about spending 4 million on a competent backup????

We have 30 million in cap space...... 4 million isn't gonna break us... And it's at the most valuable position on the whole team...

ForeverChiefs58 08-19-2011 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 7835951)
Remember what you're talking about here. Backup quarterback. Not the Chiefs' team leader of the future. Backup. If he comes cheap, it's an absolute no-brainer.

Alex Smith has thrown for almost 10,000 yards and over 50 touchdowns.

Palko has thrown for 35 yards. And no touchdowns. And is almost a year older than Alex Smith.

No one will confuse Alex Smith with Peyton or Brady any time soon. But anyone who thinks he's equal to Palko is a ****ing moron.

It is making a point. Both suck. No one has seen palko play in reg game, but there is no need cause he sux. I watched A. Smith a lot and he is worse than bad.
If it is just backup and no worries of him playing then let Stanzi be backup. Alex Smith is one of the worst QB's in the league. He does not belong on a team that cares about winning.

Okie_Apparition 08-19-2011 12:34 PM

The old man QB with the Steelers, worked with Zorn. Ben, Leftwich, Dixion & old guy I can't think the name of...Batch.

Mr. Arrowhead 08-19-2011 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 7835992)
You're complaining about spending 4 million on a competent backup????

We have 30 million in cap space...... 4 million isn't gonna break us... And it's at the most valuable position on the whole team...

dont worry, thats Clark Hunt talking

Chiefs Pantalones 08-19-2011 12:41 PM

Alex Smith and Matt Cassel together form so much suckage that it would magically make us Super Bowl contenders :)

MOhillbilly 08-19-2011 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 7836014)
Alex Smith and Matt Cassel together form so much suckage that it would magically make us Super Bowl contenders :)

only if smith plays wr.

KC Hawks 08-19-2011 12:43 PM

I'd be for it. Alex Smith certainly isn't a good player, but he has experience and is worlds better than Palko. I was holding out for Tom Brady to be our backup, but Smith would do.

Epic Fail 007 08-19-2011 12:46 PM

What is up with u all sayin,yes i want if cheap.lol.This the NFL not the local dollar store or walmart.You do not win being cheap.

DJ's left nut 08-19-2011 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric007 (Post 7836023)
What is up with u all sayin,yes i want if cheap.lol.This the NFL not the local dollar store or walmart.You do not win being cheap.

DAMN RIGHT!

Give up a 1st round pick for that MFer!

And if he only costs a 6th - screw it, Palko FTMFW!

....
....

You're aware you don't make a goddamn bit of sense - yes?

The Franchise 08-19-2011 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 7835999)
It is making a point. Both suck. No one has seen palko play in reg game, but there is no need cause he sux. I watched A. Smith a lot and he is worse than bad.
If it is just backup and no worries of him playing then let Stanzi be backup. Alex Smith is one of the worst QB's in the league. He does not belong on a team that cares about winning.

Dude.....did Alex Smith **** your mom?

NJChiefsFan 08-19-2011 01:01 PM

I don't care how much anybody thinks Smith sucks, there is no way, that this season, Palko or Stanzi are better options if Matt gets hurt. Now if you want to say if Matt gets hurt we are out and might as well let Stanzi go for it, well I disagree, but I see the arguement.

To me the only reason to not give up a six or so is if you don't want to clog it up for Stanzi. Who knows what Stanzi will be, but if you bring in Smith you now have 3 guys that have question marks at QB. Hopefully this year either puts a line through Cassel for good or shows he has the goods, not something inbetween. Either way I don't see them trying Smith before Stanzi. If they don't think Stanzi is ready they would just stay with Cassel, not go to Smith. So would the Chiefs bring him in and not try to see if he can start? Its a weird situation, unless they brought him in and said you are the #2, and if Cassel goes you still will be the #2.

What I am saying is I would like to have him as a backup this year, but as for the future if Cassel isn't the answer I would almost prefer a simple decision of lets try Stanzi instead of trying to see if we should give Smith a chance first. Guess best case is bring him in to backup until Stanzi is ready to be the #2 for sure and then let him go. When I say Stanzi being ready to be the #2, I mean knowing the offense and NFL game, so next year at the earliest.

Fat Elvis 08-19-2011 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dsnyfn (Post 7835740)
I am trying to see what everyone likes about Stanzi.....maybe someone can enlighten me ....

Go here:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=30

See Stanzi fans.

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/7...anzimedium.jpg

BigRichard 08-19-2011 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7836041)
Dude.....did Alex Smith **** your mom?

I was going to ask the same exact question.

The Franchise 08-19-2011 01:09 PM

And Alex Smith is WAY better than ****ing Palko.

Smith has kind of been ****ed over his entire career. He's had something like 4 different coordinators in his first 5 years. He's got the talent and I think it'd be beneficial for him to come in and not be thrown into a starting spot.

Predarat 08-19-2011 01:24 PM

If they can get this guy, print 'em!

BigRichard 08-19-2011 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7836087)
And Alex Smith is WAY better than ****ing Palko.

Smith has kind of been ****ed over his entire career. He's had something like 4 different coordinators in his first 5 years. He's got the talent and I think it'd be beneficial for him to come in and not be thrown into a starting spot.

Who is this Palko everyone keeps talking about?

ForeverChiefs58 08-19-2011 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7836041)
Dude.....did Alex Smith **** your mom?

If I let him even try to **** her he would probably miss her by 5 yards.

ForeverChiefs58 08-19-2011 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7836087)
And Alex Smith is WAY better than ****ing Palko.

Smith has kind of been ****ed over his entire career. He's had something like 4 different coordinators in his first 5 years. He's got the talent and I think it'd be beneficial for him to come in and not be thrown into a starting spot.

wut? He has 53 INT and 34 fumbles. Have you seen him play?

In last weeks game (which of course he lost) his ave throw was for 1.4 yards.

Jim Harbough is supposed to be somewhat of a QB guru also.

I understand everyone wants a veteran backup, but he is not it. He is not better than starting a rookie, he really isn't.

The Franchise 08-19-2011 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 7836170)
wut? He has 53 INT and 34 fumbles. Have you seen him play?

In last weeks game (which of course he lost) his ave throw was for 1.4 yards.

Jim Harbough is supposed to be somewhat of a QB guru also.

I understand everyone wants a veteran backup, but he is not it. He is not better than starting a rookie, he really isn't.

1. Yeah....I've seen him play. I live an hour outside of San Francisco....
2. You just pulled stats from a ****ing preseason game......you're dumb.
3. He has 53 INTs....and 51 TDs. That's not the greatest stats but I'm not calling for him to come in and start over Cassel.
4. It's Jim Harbaugh....not Harbough.

rocknrolla 08-19-2011 01:50 PM

If Cassel goes down, the season is down the shitter with Smith as a back up. So why cock block Stanzi?

BigRichard 08-19-2011 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocknrolla (Post 7836198)
If Cassel goes down, the season is down the shitter with Smith as a back up. So why cock block Stanzi?

Because it might be detrimental to his progression if you throw him to the wolves.

ForeverChiefs58 08-19-2011 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7836187)
1. Yeah....I've seen him play. I live an hour outside of San Francisco....
2. You just pulled stats from a ****ing preseason game......you're dumb.
3. He has 53 INTs....and 51 TDs. That's not the greatest stats but I'm not calling for him to come in and start over Cassel.
4. It's Jim Harbaugh....not Harbough.



:spock:
You are calling for him to start if something happens to Cassel. That is a dumb mistake.

If you have seen him play and you still want him anywhere near this team than you are the one who is dumb.

He was benched for Troy Smith who only had 3 carreer TD's in 3 years with the Ravens. He was also outplayed by T. Smith who sucks but wasn't a number 1 draft pick. That is the only reason he is still there.

He should follow the QB he was benched for, and try a different profession.

Mosbonian 08-19-2011 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 7835915)
If u watched any 49er games, it is not overboard at all. Alex Smith was benched last year in favor of Troy Smith who won more games than A. Smith and is out of football now. The only reason Alex Smith is still on the roster is cause of where he was drafted. He sux in epic proportions. He makes Croyle look like Brady.

That's an overboard opinion....Croyle is a bust and will be forever.

Smith would be a decent backup...but not one I would pay much for.

Detoxing....you didn't really answer my question so I'll give you another shot at it...

Why is Stanzi any better option than Smith?


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