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Canofbier 01-26-2013 04:12 PM

Dysert completely unaware of the blind-side pressure.

B14ckmon 01-26-2013 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 9353179)
WTF is wrong with you? Are you obsessed with me?

You got laughed off the Jaguars forum and decided to make us all look like morons on another team's forum.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-26-2013 04:12 PM

Has wilson played yet...?

Canofbier 01-26-2013 04:13 PM

WOW. What in the hell was that?

B14ckmon 01-26-2013 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9353183)
Has wilson played yet...?

Yes...quite a bit.

silver5liter 01-26-2013 04:13 PM

I tell you what, geno really hurt himself not going to this turd

Sfeihc 01-26-2013 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9353172)
nothing to go on....but his entire college career?

we just spent the #11 pick on a combine freak who did jack shit in college...i'm fine with 'only having all his game tape'...


My point is in this relativity weak qb class why not come out and show us all he is the man. of course I understand his decision not to participate this week. Most of the top qb's in their draft class don't do the Senior Bowl.

Setsuna 01-26-2013 04:13 PM

JFC.......:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

****ing QBs are making Bray look like the 2nd best QB in the draft. ****!

Rain Man 01-26-2013 04:13 PM

#7 reminded me a lot of Matt Cassel on that interception.

Canofbier 01-26-2013 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9353183)
Has wilson played yet...?

Yeah. He went 6/7 but didn't do anything fantastic. His one incompletion was a pretty terrible throw that would have been picked 4 out of 5 times.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-26-2013 04:15 PM

Starting to look like a game coached by the Raiders and Lions

Canofbier 01-26-2013 04:16 PM

These QBs are doing terribly. Who'd have thought that ****ing EJ Manuel would have had the best first half performance?

Mr_Tomahawk 01-26-2013 04:16 PM

Well great.

fairladyZ 01-26-2013 04:16 PM

jones, dysert, nassib.. Just down right ****ing TERRIBLE! Doesn't even look like they know what they are doing

Sfeihc 01-26-2013 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9353195)
Starting to look like a game coached by the Raiders and Lions

This.

Setsuna 01-26-2013 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9353197)
Well great.

Take that crap sig down dude.

fairladyZ 01-26-2013 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9353197)
Well great.

Tyler looked good but was real vanilla short passes and check downs, he had 2 real good throws, 1 real bad underthrow that should have been picked.

B14ckmon 01-26-2013 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canofbier (Post 9353196)
These QBs are doing terribly. Who'd have thought that ****ing EJ Manuel would have had the best first half performance?

Wilson underthrew one pass.

Hardly "terrible".

Quote:

Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 9353201)
Tyler looked good but was real vanilla short passes and check downs, he had 2 real good throws, 1 real bad underthrow that should have been picked.

The players aren't calling the plays. Those were screen passes not check downs.

keg in kc 01-26-2013 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9353183)
Has wilson played yet...?

Looked like every other QB today. Throwing lots of short stuff. Didn't throw a pick, at least, so that's a plus.

Nobody has looked good at all. Manuel had one decent throw for a TD, that's the only QB highlight of the game so far.

Hammock Parties 01-26-2013 04:18 PM

Tyler Wilson looked like Cassel. No joke.

All checkdowns. When he tried to make a play, FAIL

silver5liter 01-26-2013 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 9353198)
jones, dysert, nassib.. Just down right ****ing TERRIBLE! Doesn't even look like they know what they are doing

Glennon was awful too

fairladyZ 01-26-2013 04:20 PM

glennon atleast looked like he knew what he was doing though. Don't think he's played great by any means but it hasn't been a shit show like the others ahve put on.

the Talking Can 01-26-2013 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 9353187)
My point is in this relativity weak qb class why not come out and show us all he is the man. of course I understand his decision not to participate this week. Most of the top qb's in their draft class don't do the Senior Bowl.

i really don't understand why people are hung up on the senior bowl...just my opinion

the game is not a great venue for QBs...and it shows, these guys all look extraordinarily average...

keg in kc 01-26-2013 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 9353212)
glennon atleast looked like he knew what he was doing though. Don't think he's played great by any means but it hasn't been a shit show like the others ahve put on.

You watched a different Glennon then me I think.

the Talking Can 01-26-2013 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 9353212)
glennon atleast looked like he knew what he was doing though. Don't think he's played great by any means but it hasn't been a shit show like the others ahve put on.

glennon couldn't hit a barn if you threw it at him

Canofbier 01-26-2013 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9353206)
Wilson underthrew one pass.

Hardly "terrible".



The players aren't calling the plays. Those were screen passes not check downs.

You can't really argue with my statement regarding the group as a whole. I like Wilson a lot, but his performance so far is average at best. Manuel's performance might be considered to be slightly above average due to his nice deep throw. Mix those two in with others playing at a very, very low level and I stand by my statement.

fairladyZ 01-26-2013 04:22 PM

lol i hope not cause i still think he sucks. He made a couple passes and his deep pass was off his recievers finger tips.

But atleast he hasn't been throwing the balls 5 yards short or to either side of the reciever or looked completly lost like dysert and jones.

keg in kc 01-26-2013 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9353213)
i really don't understand why people are hung up on the senior bowl...just my opinion

the game is not a great venue for QBs...and it shows, these guys all look extraordinarily average...

Yep.

There's a reason Smith didn't come. This is why. He was almost certainly already the top rated QB in the class, so he didn't have anything at all to gain. The only thing he could do was hurt his position with a game like all these guys have had so far today.

B14ckmon 01-26-2013 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canofbier (Post 9353219)
You can't really argue with my statement regarding the group as a whole. I like Wilson a lot, but his performance so far is average. Manuel's performance might be considered to be slightly above average due to his nice deep throw. Mix those two in with others playing at a very, very low level and I stand by my statement.

I'm not. I also think Geno is underwhelming as a first round QB.

I am incredibly happy my team isn't taking a first round QB this year.

fairladyZ 01-26-2013 04:23 PM

i'd give manuel the edge over wilson just cause his TD pass was beautiful and he has a TD pass but wilson has played just as good and made very accurate throws even for being short passes

fairladyZ 01-26-2013 04:24 PM

i'm baffled at how bad landry jones sucks

keg in kc 01-26-2013 04:25 PM

I'm baffled that anybody would be baffled at how bad landry jones sucks.

Hammock Parties 01-26-2013 04:25 PM

Landry Jones = dogshit

Mr_Tomahawk 01-26-2013 04:26 PM

Is it half?

fairladyZ 01-26-2013 04:26 PM

i'm baffled that your baffled that this is the first i've seen of him and just heard how bad he sucked!

Sfeihc 01-26-2013 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9353213)
i really don't understand why people are hung up on the senior bowl...just my opinion

the game is not a great venue for QBs...and it shows, these guys all look extraordinarily average...

Quite true, like Mayock said this game is a perfect venue for a player like Ziggy. Not so much for qbs. Don't get me wrong I want to like Geno just not there yet. Although to your point about Poe, Smith wouldn't have to do much to be an improvement over any CHIEFS 1st rounder under Egoli. Yes that includeds MR. 2-time Pro Bowler

keg in kc 01-26-2013 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9353235)
Is it half?

Just about. Minute to go.

silver5liter 01-26-2013 04:26 PM

Glennon going back in lol

Hammock Parties 01-26-2013 04:27 PM

Glennon puts one in the dirt.

Shitty.

Setsuna 01-26-2013 04:27 PM

I'm bout to rage. These QBs are just sucking major dick.

Rain Man 01-26-2013 04:27 PM

If Geno doesn't look good at the combine, I think we should go for a left tackle.

keg in kc 01-26-2013 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9353240)
Glennon going back in lol

And throwing exactly like he did to start the game. Glennon might be hillbilly for "gopherball".

keg in kc 01-26-2013 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9353244)
If Geno doesn't look good at the combine, I think we should go for a left tackle.

I'd be really surprised if Geno did anything at all at the combine other than height/weight and interview.

Canofbier 01-26-2013 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9353223)
I'm not. I also think Geno is underwhelming as a first round QB.

I am incredibly happy my team isn't taking a first round QB this year.

Underwhelming as a #1 overall, maybe, but he'd have definitely been in contention for the Dolphin's 8th overall pick last year ahead of Tannehill, IMO. It could just be the rose-colored goggles I'm wearing, but as of now, I think Geno is a solid top-10 or top-15 pick in any post-payscale change draft.

the Talking Can 01-26-2013 04:28 PM

glennon just threw the worst pass in the history of football

BossChief 01-26-2013 04:29 PM

ROFL @ Glennon.

Rain Man 01-26-2013 04:29 PM

Wow. That quarterback is killing me. Is that Glennon? If that's Glennon we should give up a 7th just to not have him on the team.

B14ckmon 01-26-2013 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canofbier (Post 9353250)
Underwhelming as a #1 overall, maybe, but he'd have definitely been in contention for the Dolphin's 8th overall pick last year ahead of Tannehill, IMO. It could just be the rose-colored goggles I'm wearing, but as of now, I think Geno is a solid top-10 or top-15 pick in any post-payscale change draft.

Yea I should have worded it different. I meant a first round Chiefs/Jaguars pick. Easily a top 10 pick .

keg in kc 01-26-2013 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canofbier (Post 9353250)
Underwhelming as a #1 overall, maybe, but he'd have definitely been in contention for the Dolphin's 8th overall pick last year ahead of Tannehill, IMO. It could just be the rose-colored goggles I'm wearing, but as of now, I think Geno is a solid top-10 or top-15 pick in any post-payscale change draft.

I think a lot of folks would agree with you on his rating with regards to Tannehill.

The QBs in this class are being rated on a sliding scale.

the Talking Can 01-26-2013 04:30 PM

remember, Glennon is black bob's guy...lmao

keg in kc 01-26-2013 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9353254)
Wow. That quarterback is killing me. Is that Glennon? If that's Glennon we should give up a 7th just to not have him on the team.

Send me a a thousand bucks Kevin, I'll take care of it.

Hammock Parties 01-26-2013 04:30 PM

http://i.imgur.com/auJWPju.gif

the Talking Can 01-26-2013 04:31 PM

barkley and smith are texting each other right now..."suckers"..."lol..u know it"

keg in kc 01-26-2013 04:32 PM

Mayock almost said something positive about Smith. Like pulling teeth.

Canofbier 01-26-2013 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9353255)
Yea I should have worded it different. I meant a first round Chiefs/Jaguars pick. Easily a top 10 pick .

I just don't see how it would be a "bad idea" to take him at 1 if he's worth some other top-10 pick. He's a strong prospect at what is by far our team's largest position of need. Had we won one or two more games by sheer luck, our team would have the exact same needs as it does now, and all of a sudden he would be a good pick?

the Talking Can 01-26-2013 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9353261)

that's what falling to the 3rd round looks like

:LOL:

fairladyZ 01-26-2013 04:32 PM

k i take it all back glennon now looks as worse as the others...

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-26-2013 04:33 PM

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout

So…who feels good about drafting a QB in Round 1 now?

B14ckmon 01-26-2013 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canofbier (Post 9353270)
I just don't see how it would be a "bad idea" to take him at 1 if he's worth some other top-10 pick. He's a strong prospect at what is by far our team's largest position of need. Had we won one or two more games by sheer luck, our team would have the exact same needs as it does now, and all of a sudden he would be a good pick?

No one said it was a bad idea. Chiefs have no choice. It's just unfortunate for the Chiefs IMO.

keg in kc 01-26-2013 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9353271)
that's what falling to the 3rd round looks like

Falling 'back' to the 3rd round.

If he ever actually left.

Canofbier 01-26-2013 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9353276)
No one said it was a bad idea. Chiefs have no choice. It's just unfortunate for the Chiefs IMO.

Maybe you didn't say it, but there are media folks and even a significant portion of Chiefs fans who are. I just don't understand it.

keg in kc 01-26-2013 04:35 PM

Halftime analyst just said what I've been thinking: there haven't been any NFL throws in this game. Aside from (maybe) Manuel's TD.

Just awful.

B14ckmon 01-26-2013 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canofbier (Post 9353279)
Maybe you didn't say it, but there are media folks and even a significant portion of Chiefs fans who are. I just don't understand it.

I have been a Geno fan for two years now. I have every every single game of his last year and the year before. I was raving for the Jaguars to get him at the beginning of the season.

And even I would be terrified about taking him with our #2. I think it's just way too much of a gamble with him. Though the Chiefs definitely have fewer holes to fill on the team so they HAVE to make the pick.

Titty Meat 01-26-2013 04:39 PM

Can I get a link?

the Talking Can 01-26-2013 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9353280)
Halftime analyst just said what I've been thinking: there haven't been any NFL throws in this game. Aside from (maybe) Manuel's TD.

Just awful.

no zip on any of the passes...no touch...bleh

keg in kc 01-26-2013 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9353300)
no zip on any of the passes...no touch...bleh

and no accuracy.

It's the trifecta.

Titty Meat 01-26-2013 04:45 PM

Link please?

BossChief 01-26-2013 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 9353155)
What bothers me most about Smith is if he is "the guy" we won't have anything to go on in this process if he just does the measurables at the combine. No Senior Bowl, no combine just WVU games. I know he'll have a pro day but we won't be there.

His proday will be televised.

BossChief 01-26-2013 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9353261)

Matt Cassel laughed at that pass.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-26-2013 04:46 PM

This is where i wish geno would have played. Do these guys suck that bad...or is it the product from the coaching, or there lack of...?

B14ckmon 01-26-2013 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9353329)
This is where i wish geno would have played. Do these guys suck that bad...or is it the product from the coaching, or there lack of...?

Play calling has been awful.

fairladyZ 01-26-2013 04:48 PM

i would have liked geno to play just to see everyone working with the same recievers for the most part. And if he is the best he would have shown it.

Sfeihc 01-26-2013 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9353324)
His proday will be televised.

I hope you're right.

WildTurkey 01-26-2013 04:49 PM

Quoting milkman from the Tyler Wilson thread because it is relevant in this thread. Obviously if there was much to gain from watching this game the scouts and all would be in attendance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9353302)
There's a reason all the scouts, personnel people, and NFL coaches leave before the actual game is played.


Mr_Tomahawk 01-26-2013 04:50 PM

So has it been that bad of play calling...?

Canofbier 01-26-2013 04:50 PM

Two pretty good throws from Glennon. The knock on the guy has been his consistency, though, and he's not doing anything to help himself in that respect today.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-26-2013 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9353345)
So has it been that bad of play calling...?


It's Oakland and the Lions staff what do you think?

B14ckmon 01-26-2013 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildTurkey (Post 9353344)
Quoting milkman from the Tyler Wilson thread because it is relevant in this thread. Obviously if there was much to gain from watching this game the scouts and all would be in attendance.

Because you don't talk to the players while they play. You can see the game on TV. They go before the game because they can talk to guys.

Plus it's a huge GM/Scout circle jerk.

-King- 01-26-2013 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9353161)
I just want to let everyone know that even Jaguars fans hate this kid. He is a college football fan who some days pretends to be a Jaguars fan.


LMAO Ouch.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-26-2013 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildTurkey (Post 9353344)
Quoting milkman from the Tyler Wilson thread because it is relevant in this thread. Obviously if there was much to gain from watching this game the scouts and all would be in attendance.

True....itd be nice to see it translate to the field tho...


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