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-King- 09-26-2019 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 14479892)
^ So, basically you want to get the Band of Fools back together?

I want you to get better reading comprehension.

Marcellus 09-26-2019 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14479885)
I'm saying people are making excuses or are happy about the same things they complained about last year or the years before.

Horseshit.

staylor26 09-26-2019 01:06 PM

King Pussy

-King- 09-26-2019 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14479901)
Horseshit.

How? The chiefs in Sutton's years were on average the 14th ranked defense in opponent TOP and the 9th ranked defense in scoring defense. Last year was literally the only yeah Sutton didn't field a top 10 defense in at least one of those categories if not both. That wasn't good enough but this year it is? Which is it?

Those last 2 years they bad at run defense and was rightfully shitted on for it. But this year we're worse so far at run defense but some people excuse it as being part of the plan or some other bullshit.

-King- 09-26-2019 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14479912)
King Pussy

Whoa. You didn't say bundle of sticks. That was like your favorite word. Im proud of you.

staylor26 09-26-2019 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14479959)
Whoa. You didn't say pillowbitergot. That was like your favorite word. Im proud of you.

Not really.

I use outstanding citizen just as often and I like to say reerun and pussy a lot too.

Aspengc8 09-26-2019 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14479547)
Damn this really makes all those people that denied Clark getting a ton of attention and the Ravens running away from him look really hard headed.

Even week 1 film was insane. Jags ran so much play action with 7 blocking or had the TE chip and kept the RB on that side.

Megatron96 09-26-2019 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14479944)
How? The chiefs in Sutton's years were on average the 14th ranked defense in opponent TOP and the 9th ranked defense in scoring defense. Last year was literally the only yeah Sutton didn't field a top 10 defense in at least one of those categories if not both. That wasn't good enough but this year it is? Which is it?

Those last 2 years they bad at run defense and was rightfully shitted on for it. But this year we're worse so far at run defense but some people excuse it as being part of the plan or some other bullshit.

Sooo, what you're saying is that you'd rather have Sutton back as DC, the guy who fielded what has been described as the ninth worst defense in NFL history for the last two years?

T-post Tom 09-26-2019 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14479944)
How? The chiefs in Sutton's years were on average the 14th ranked defense in opponent TOP and the 9th ranked defense in scoring defense. Last year was literally the only yeah Sutton didn't field a top 10 defense in at least one of those categories if not both. That wasn't good enough but this year it is? Which is it?

Those last 2 years they bad at run defense and was rightfully shitted on for it. But this year we're worse so far at run defense but some people excuse it as being part of the plan or some other bullshit.

Chiefs are 3 games into a new DC/new scheme/& a lot of new players. Give it a minute. Sutton's defense ranked last or near last in almost all significant categories last year. Barring any significant injuries, the Chiefs defense will end the year better than last year's defense. If that doesn't happen, remind me at the end of the season and you can have all of my Casino cash.

JakeF 09-26-2019 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 14479988)
Chiefs are 3 games into a new DC/new scheme/& a lot of new players. Give it a minute. Sutton's defense ranked last or near last in almost all significant categories last year. Barring any significant injuries, the Chiefs defense will end the year better than last year's defense. If that doesn't happen, remind me at the end of the season and you can have all of my Casino cash.

Clark is a pass-rushing DE, does scheme matter?

Megatron96 09-26-2019 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14479995)
Clark is a pass-rushing DE, does scheme matter?

No, of course not. What's Spags thinking? He should be lining up his defense in punt block formation every down like you did in Madden 5. Every opponent would end the game with negative stats across the board . . .

-King- 09-26-2019 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14479983)
Sooo, what you're saying is that you'd rather have Sutton back as DC, the guy who fielded what has been described as the ninth worst defense in NFL history for the last two years?

The defense last year was awful but the defense in 2017 was ok and the ones before that were elite. Sutton has a better track record at DC than Spags actually. I understand that he got let go and support the move. But I'm not going to give Spags credit for the same shit I hated Sutton for. Hopefully we do get a lot better after players gel.

Megatron96 09-26-2019 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14480022)
The defense last year was awful but the defense in 2017 was ok and the ones before that were elite. Sutton has a better track record at DC than Spags actually. I understand that he got let go and support the move. But I'm not going to give Spags credit for the same shit I hated Sutton for. Hopefully we do get a lot better after players gel.

I forget. How much time did we give Sutton to install his defense that was "ok" in 2017, and was categorically one of the worst defenses the world has ever seen last year? Three weeks?

JakeF 09-26-2019 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14480003)
No, of course not. What's Spags thinking? He should be lining up his defense in punt block formation every down like you did in Madden 5. Every opponent would end the game with negative stats across the board . . .

What are you talking about?

Some positions are less effected by scheme than others. A running back can step in and start playing much faster than a WR after changing schemes.

I would think that lining up at DE and chasing the QB would be simplified in many schemes. A 3-4 is more complicated but a 4-3 DE often lines up and just goes.

What about Spag's scheme is hurting Clark's pass-rushing ability?

Megatron96 09-26-2019 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14480046)
What are you talking about?

Some positions are less effected by scheme than others. A running back can step in and start playing much faster than a WR after changing schemes.

I would think that lining up at DE and chasing the QB would be simplified in many schemes. A 3-4 is more complicated but a 4-3 DE often lines up and just goes.

What about Spag's scheme is hurting Clark's pass-rushing ability?

Go back to the last page and read the links provided as well as listen the podcast audio link for the detailed answer to your question.

But as a very simplified response to your question, Spags isn't having Frank just line up and rush the passer. He's only doing that about 25% of the time.


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