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RealSNR 09-15-2019 02:33 PM

Frank Clark ****ing sucks
 
Guy has done NOTHING in two games. Barely any pressures to speak of against trash OTs.

Yeah, I'm in bitchy gameday mode. Don't care. I'm tired of paying out the ass for defensive players who don't make plays.

At least Justin Houston could dominate against bad teams after we paid him.

Molitoth 09-15-2019 02:39 PM

So far the entire team is a stinky asshole.

lewdog 09-15-2019 02:39 PM

Jesus man.

Grab a tampon, put on some classical music and calm the **** down.

dlphg9 09-15-2019 02:40 PM

Yep Frank got paid and now Frank has been playing like shit.

Molitoth 09-15-2019 02:42 PM

May be a Spags thing... lets watch how it goes.

New World Order 09-15-2019 02:45 PM

I'ts been frustrating so far.

Iconic 09-15-2019 02:56 PM

Watched Houston briefly and he looks 10x better than Clark. Already has a sack too.

Jewish Rabbi 09-15-2019 02:57 PM

Eagerly awaiting two sacks from him today because of this thread!

jjchieffan 09-15-2019 03:04 PM

You must be thrilled SNR. You were against the trade from the beginning. He's not doing good to start the season, so now you get to thump your chest and say I told you so. Yay. The rest of us would rather see the Chiefs play well as a team. But, at least you get to feel justified.

lewdog 09-15-2019 03:08 PM

SNR is weaker than a non-vaccinated child against measles.

Aspengc8 09-15-2019 03:10 PM

good thing hes not getting doubled or chipped often, right?

kcclone 09-15-2019 03:15 PM

So far, he hasn’t done crap.

Hopefully he settles in and hits his stride this year because we’ll need him.

Jewish Rabbi 09-15-2019 03:26 PM

NICE TFL BY CLARK!!!

poolboy 09-15-2019 03:27 PM

Yeah, he looks slower, hopefully not injured

lewdog 09-15-2019 03:29 PM

TFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YontsRBake 09-15-2019 03:31 PM

This thread is very premature.

Aspengc8 09-15-2019 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YontsRBake (Post 14449267)
This thread is very premature.

unfortunately here on CP, if you dont get a sack, your an immediate bust and garbage.

ChiefaRoo 09-15-2019 03:44 PM

Clark will be fine.

Chiefs=Champions 09-15-2019 03:46 PM

Deberg-style thread

scho63 09-15-2019 03:48 PM

CHILL THE **** OUT!

CP-The home of the over reactors

jonzie04 09-15-2019 03:51 PM

Edit, Thought I was in the game thread.

TLO 09-15-2019 03:54 PM

HBF, SNR.

Flying High D 09-15-2019 03:56 PM

Where the hell am I?

Blick 09-15-2019 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 14449338)
unfortunately here on CP, if you dont get a sack, your an immediate bust and garbage.

So true

cabletech94 09-15-2019 03:58 PM

what's going on in here?

never trust a man with 2 first names.

frank clark is okay. we'll be fine.

ThyKingdomCome15 09-15-2019 04:02 PM

Clark destroyed the RB in the back field and is the emotional leader along side Chris Jones. D is still finding its footing under the new scheme but had and had a good second quarter. We're OK.

Mahomes is the greatest player I've ever watched. Period.

CasselGotPeedOn 09-15-2019 04:03 PM

I have a feeling this thread is gonna be bumped a few times this season....

Flying High D 09-15-2019 04:25 PM

We got you to be Superman not Kent Clark.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 09-15-2019 05:39 PM

Never go Rerun ;)

Hammock Parties 09-15-2019 05:40 PM

Thanks. Clark is going to have 4 sacks next week.

Deberg_1990 09-15-2019 05:40 PM

This defense won’t have as many sacks as last year. But it will be a better, more sound defense

Kman34 09-15-2019 05:41 PM

He has a INT..??

Chief Roundup 09-15-2019 05:41 PM

Relax it is only week 2......

eDave 09-15-2019 05:42 PM

He's playing his part.

RealSNR 09-15-2019 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 14448966)
You must be thrilled SNR. You were against the trade from the beginning. He's not doing good to start the season, so now you get to thump your chest and say I told you so. Yay. The rest of us would rather see the Chiefs play well as a team. But, at least you get to feel justified.


You’ve got a lot of nerve saying I put my ego before the team, you drooling reerun.

pugsnotdrugs19 09-15-2019 05:43 PM

One thing I can’t question is his effort and intensity.

He’s drawing lots of double teams so sacks are going to be tough unless we have big leads consistently. But he’s helping other guys get 1-on-1s, and that is helping in itself.

St. Patty's Fire 09-15-2019 05:44 PM

Raiders o line is much better than last year

Wbf

Hammock Parties 09-15-2019 05:44 PM

This defense has given up 23 points in the course of actual competitive football the last two weeks.

We seriously need to be appreciative at the moment.

eDave 09-15-2019 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14450397)
One thing I can’t question is his effort and intensity.

He’s drawing lots of double teams so sacks are going to be tough unless we have big leads consistently. But he’s helping other guys get 1-on-1s, and that is helping in itself.

That.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 09-15-2019 05:44 PM

When your MVP QB has a bad wheel, play soft. Not saying it was planned

GermanChiefFan 09-15-2019 05:47 PM

Panic Mode... he can Play better But it is week 2. Both Jac and Oak focused on him so this opens up the Chance for other Players to make Plays. He will get his Sacks Bit i couldnt care less about stats.

keg in kc 09-15-2019 05:49 PM

And then the first quarter ended and the Raiders were shut out for 45 minutes.

I'll take it, sacks or not.

jonzie04 09-15-2019 05:50 PM

He’s good, just not worth what we gave up for him. I said it when we traded for him, and I’ll say it now. He’s not any better than Dee Ford, and we would have been better off keeping Ford and a first round pick.

ThyKingdomCome15 09-15-2019 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14450400)
This defense has given up 23 points in the course of actual competitive football the last two weeks.

We seriously need to be appreciative at the moment.


Yes. It was 37-19 late when JAX scored. Garbage time. I agree completely.

Chiefs=Champions 09-15-2019 05:54 PM

Clark was getting chipped and doubled a LOT today. As long as other guys are making the plays off the one on ones - im fine with it.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-15-2019 05:57 PM

What a dumb ****ing thread ROFL

KCUnited 09-15-2019 05:59 PM

I’ll wait til tomorrow to bring up that he’s tied with Jalen Ramsey for sacks.

In58men 09-15-2019 06:05 PM

Dude didn’t do shit and got a lucky tip drill INT

DTVietnam 09-15-2019 06:11 PM

Honey Badger sucks worse. .

got beat bad a few times today

dlphg9 09-15-2019 06:20 PM

Frank Clark hasnt been good at all. Had one good play, but other than that he's been pretty below average. For a guy that we gave up a 1st round draft pick for and $100 mil he's not doing what he needs to. Then you look at Chris Jones who is actually producing and getting ****ed around by the team. He had 5 tackles 3 QB Hits and 1 sack. If we don't sign Chris Jones because of Frank Clark I'm going to be pissed.

petegz28 09-15-2019 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 14448668)
Jesus man.

Grab a tampon, put on some classical music and calm the **** down.

^

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Sassy Squatch 09-15-2019 06:39 PM

He doesn't suck, but he's nowhere near the DPOY candidate we need.

Mahomes_Is_God 09-15-2019 06:39 PM

Our D only allowed 10 points. Shut the **** up bitch. The whining is insufferable.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 09-15-2019 06:45 PM

Clark is drawing double teams. Can everyone stfu

WhawhaWhat 09-15-2019 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14448542)
Guy has done NOTHING in two games. Barely any pressures to speak of against trash OTs.

Yeah, I'm in bitchy gameday mode. Don't care. I'm tired of paying out the ass for defensive players who don't make plays.

At least Justin Houston could dominate against bad teams after we paid him.

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7aTy...wDjq/giphy.gif

Flying High D 09-15-2019 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 14450429)
He’s good, just not worth what we gave up for him. I said it when we traded for him, and I’ll say it now. He’s not any better than Dee Ford, and we would have been better off keeping Ford and a first round pick.

Ford didn’t know how to line up. Pee Wee football teams go whole seasons without lining up offsides. Same can’t be said for that brokedick Ford.

Flying High D 09-15-2019 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTVietnam (Post 14450504)
Honey Badger sucks worse. .

got beat bad a few times today

That was expected, you have to take the good with the bad. In this case the honey is good golden the badger not so much. Badger be smelling sometimes.

Jewish Rabbi 09-15-2019 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 14450649)
That was expected, you have to take the good with the bad. In this case the honey is good golden the badger not so much. Badger be smelling sometimes.

What the **** does this even mean?

Chief Northman 09-15-2019 06:55 PM

Mathieu was awful. Looked like he was avoiding contact. He needs to shut up on social media and just be a football player.

Fuller, Breeland, Ward, KPass and Jones stood out defensively.

Flying High D 09-15-2019 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14450621)
Clark is drawing double teams. Can everyone stfu

Mostly saw him doing the do-si-do with the opposing tackle, perfected by the former in-house do-si-do expert Allen Bailey.

dlphg9 09-15-2019 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 14450651)
What the **** does this even mean?

Im assuming he's drunk.

kcjayhawks5 09-15-2019 06:56 PM

Can we lock this thread?

TwistedChief 09-15-2019 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 14450649)
That was expected, you have to take the good with the bad. In this case the honey is good golden the badger not so much. Badger be smelling sometimes.

ROFL Yes.

Flying High D 09-15-2019 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 14450663)
Mathieu was awful. Looked like he was avoiding contact. He needs to shut up on social media and just be a football player.

Fuller, Breeland, Ward, KPass and Jones stood out defensively.

When he’s doing that he is channeling his inner Justin Houston spirit onto the field of play.

tredadda 09-15-2019 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 14450429)
He’s good, just not worth what we gave up for him. I said it when we traded for him, and I’ll say it now. He’s not any better than Dee Ford, and we would have been better off keeping Ford and a first round pick.

No we wouldn’t.

dlphg9 09-15-2019 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahomes_Is_God (Post 14450603)
Our D only allowed 10 points. Shut the **** up bitch. The whining is insufferable.

There's a difference between whining and being critical. You don't seem to have the brain capacity to distinguish between the two. I don't see anyone complaining about how well the D did, so what the **** does them allowing 10 points have to do with anything? Using your logic, then people are being whiny when they say our OL sucks.

The Chiefs gave up a **** ton to get Frank N Beans, so he needs to perform. If we don't sign Jones long term it's because we gave Clark a big contract. I'd rather have Justin Houston than Clark and would take Dee Ford, a 1st round pick, and that $100 mil over Clark.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14450621)
Clark is drawing double teams. Can everyone stfu

I don't care what he's facing, he needs to be better. All these guys get doubled, but they still over come. He was on a much worse D line last year, so I'm sure he was double teamed, but he still produced.

And I'm tired of people using the let him adjust to the scheme! Well I was under the impression that Spags D let these guys just go out and play football and not worry about the scheme so much. He's gotta play better.

dlphg9 09-15-2019 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 14450685)
No we wouldn’t.

We'd be better off with just the 1st rounder. Justin Houston or Dee Ford would be icing on the cake.

Raiderhater 09-15-2019 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 14450429)
He’s good, just not worth what we gave up for him. I said it when we traded for him, and I’ll say it now. He’s not any better than Dee Ford, and we would have been better off keeping Ford and a first round pick.

:bong:

dlphg9 09-15-2019 08:04 PM

How offended some of you get over any type of criticism blows my mind. I can only imagine how big of pussies some of you must be in the real world by your reactions to criticism of a football player.

Bowser 09-15-2019 08:05 PM

ERMAGHERD NO SERRK IN TERR GERRRMS

smithandrew051 09-15-2019 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14450759)
We'd be better off with just the 1st rounder. Justin Houston or Dee Ford would be icing on the cake.

Depends.

Maybe the first round pick would be better than Clark, but we don’t know for sure.

I don’t trust Houston or Ford to stay healthy and they’re both expensive.

WhawhaWhat 09-15-2019 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14450926)
Depends.

Maybe the first round pick would be better than Clark, but we don’t know for sure.

I don’t trust Houston or Ford to stay healthy and they’re both expensive.

Not to mention that Houston wasn't going to sign to come back to KC anyway.

IowaHawkeyeChief 09-15-2019 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTVietnam (Post 14450504)
Honey Badger sucks worse. .

got beat bad a few times today


A stupid post in a stupid thread...

Mahomes_Is_God 09-15-2019 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14450725)
There's a difference between whining and being critical. You don't seem to have the brain capacity to distinguish between the two. I don't see anyone complaining about how well the D did, so what the **** does them allowing 10 points have to do with anything? Using your logic, then people are being whiny when they say our OL sucks.

The Chiefs gave up a **** ton to get Frank N Beans, so he needs to perform. If we don't sign Jones long term it's because we gave Clark a big contract. I'd rather have Justin Houston than Clark and would take Dee Ford, a 1st round pick, and that $100 mil over Clark.



I don't care what he's facing, he needs to be better. All these guys get doubled, but they still over come. He was on a much worse D line last year, so I'm sure he was double teamed, but he still produced.

And I'm tired of people using the let him adjust to the scheme! Well I was under the impression that Spags D let these guys just go out and play football and not worry about the scheme so much. He's gotta play better.

SHUT. THE. ****. UP. BITCH

pugsnotdrugs19 09-15-2019 08:29 PM

As a whole, I think fans are too ate up with sacks. They’re awesome, don’t get me wrong, but they don’t correlate to great team defense nearly as much as many seem to believe.

See Chiefs last year for reference.

J Diddy 09-15-2019 08:30 PM

[QUOTE=pugsnotdrugs19;14450990]As a whole, I think fans are too ate up with sacks. They’re awesome, don’t get me wrong, but they don’t correlate to great team defense nearly as much as many seem to believe.

See Chiefs last year for reference.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely this.

FlorentinePogen 09-15-2019 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14450918)
How offended some of you get over any type of criticism blows my mind. I can only imagine how big of pussies some of you must be in the real world by your reactions to criticism of a football player.

I think most people just think it's foolish to shit yourself over two games worth of performance from a player on a new team and new system. No need to call people pussies for not playing along with the unnecessary drama.

J Diddy 09-15-2019 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14450926)
Depends.

Maybe the first round pick would be better than Clark, but we don’t know for sure.

I don’t trust Houston or Ford to stay healthy and they’re both expensive.

Not to mention not leaders, liability in coverage and against the run and incredibly inconsistent.

Them shits can kick bricks. Houston can come back and sign a one day contract to retire as a chief. Ford can suck a fat sausage. We were one dumb ****ers arm away from reaching the promised land.

rabblerouser 09-15-2019 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 14451016)
Not to mention not leaders, liability in coverage and against the run and incredibly inconsistent.

Them shits can kick bricks. Houston can come back and sign a one day contract to retire as a chief. Ford can suck a fat sausage. We were one dumb ****ers arm away from reaching the promised land.

All of this.

Megatron96 09-15-2019 08:54 PM

So I just re-watched the first three quarters of the game, just the Chiefs' defensive snaps. Clark was doubled nearly every single down, which gave other guys on our DL several 1v1 opportunities. I noticed that Chris Jones was doubled most of the time as well. This fits with what we know about Gruden; he wants to take our best defensive players out of the game as much as possible.

Based on how Clark played I'm pretty sure that Spags knew that Clark was going to be a primary focus of the Raiders' OL.

In spite of this attention, Clark came off the snap hot throughout the game; I don't think he took any plays off when he was on the field.

He also managed to make a TFL, a tackle for a one yard gain (if he missed it that one probably would've gone for at least a first down), several QB pressures that forced Carr out of the pocket (exactly what we want), a couple tackles on their TEs that might've gone for big gains if Dee Ford had been out there.

Unfortunately, except for the TFL, he didn't have any splash plays. What he did do was play smart team football, drew a lot of attention to himself and helped everyone else on the DL make plays.

Most importantly, I didn't see him make any big mistakes. No lining up offsides, no encroachments, off-sides, losing his assignments, etc.

I really liked how he drove down on some of those running plays and forced the RB back into the middle. He played contain just about as well as anyone can play it.

I know some people are going to be pissed that Clark got a big contract and he didn't snatch Carr's head off every other passing play, but that's not realistic. The Raiders knew coming into the game who Frank Clark was, and they obviously knew exactly where he was on the field every snap. But all that extra attention helped our DL and our secondary at times. Bottom line, our defense has only allowed a couple dozen points in two games, and only allowed one big running play.

And I don't think Clark is in his best game shape yet. He's going to be fine, IMO. He's making our defensive line better, better at tackling, better at containment, and better against the run.

I'm starting to believe that the Ravens will have a hard time getting those big running plays against us next week.


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