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RunKC 01-08-2018 10:07 AM

Biggest need: DL
 
Let’s talk about this position. Chris Jones is an obvious stud. Ideally we keep Bennie Logan at a reduced price. Allen Bailey either needs to take a big paycut or be given a pink slip.

Due to this years sub par FA class, I’ll start bringing up guys in the draft that I would love.

Here is my number 1 DL at this time: Harrison Phillips from Stanford.

6’4”
300 lbs

2016-6.5 sacks
2017-7 sacks

He’s also a damn good run stuffer...

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O.city 01-08-2018 10:14 AM

They need guys who can do both

Iczer 01-08-2018 10:30 AM

I dunno, I think CB is up there with a big need as well. We got nobody outside of Peters. I pray they don't bring Revis back next year as well.

TambaBerry 01-08-2018 11:22 AM

to be able to stop the run especially against a guy as big as Henry you have to have more then 2 ****ing down lineman

New World Order 01-08-2018 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iczer (Post 13345401)
I dunno, I think CB is up there with a big need as well. We got nobody outside of Peters. I pray they don't bring Revis back next year as well.

Draft Phillips then bring in Talib on a 2-year deal.

hitchief 01-08-2018 01:16 PM

Well, they certainly need an upgrade along the Dline for sure. But also need another ILB alongside Rageland. Also need another starting CB Also need another OLB as there is zero pass rush.

Lots of needs and hopefully they can get two in the draft with a pick from the trade of Alex in the offseason. But have to hit on the limited picks this year!!

Iczer 01-08-2018 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13345872)
Draft Phillips then bring in Talib on a 2-year deal.

I could be on board with this.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 01-08-2018 05:19 PM

Too white

Looked like he could barely jog during the one Stanford game I watched. Probably a broken body. Was a good wrestler, however.

O.city 01-09-2018 09:29 PM

They need a legit #2 wr and another ILB

Probably 2 corners and some dl

Bewbies 01-10-2018 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13350763)
They need a legit #2 wr and another ILB

Probably 2 corners and some dl

Mahomes doesn’t need all world talent around him.

Kelce + Hill + Conley + Wilson + Robinson + Chesson is most likely more than enough.

On offense I’d like to see us upgrade our depth at TE more than WR.

CoMoChief 01-10-2018 04:32 PM

Defense across the board is needed

I think however, OLB is the most important need.

Hali will be gone.

Nobody wants to see Zombo play another down in KC.

Ford could apply to the above as well.

KPass still extremely raw.

Corner is probably the next biggest need. You can get by with avg corners if the pass rush is there. In KC case though its not.

Beef Supreme 01-11-2018 10:02 AM

I want big mean nasty linemen. On both sides of the ball.

Tribal Warfare 01-11-2018 06:28 PM

DT/NT is a primary need, and I assume from what happened thus far that he's aggressive concerning draft selections and willing to trade up. Hence, Vita Vea/Da'Ron Payne are the players that they're targeting

BryanBusby 01-11-2018 08:11 PM

I can't imagine a team without a first is targeting top 20 guys.

RunKC 01-11-2018 09:52 PM

Hope they get Pennel bc he could solve our NT problem for 3-4 years, but he was the reason why NYJ will move on from Muhammed Wilkerson, so we might not be able to get him.

Honestly at this point they need to just draft any defensive player that is the highest on the board. We could use an upgrade at literally any position at this point.

BryanBusby 01-11-2018 10:45 PM

Take Lotulelei in the late 4th and you're set.

bevischief 01-12-2018 04:58 AM

A brain

Gravedigger 01-12-2018 09:03 AM

This is a year where you can put offense behind defense, not ignore it, but really put your eggs into the defense basket. I think you have to nail down Pass Rusher first, it's almost like QB that until you get a great one, you have to at least try to seal up that position. Unfortunately the last one we drafted has been a bust with only maybe half a season to show on a highlight reel in Dee Ford. I think you go Pass Rusher first, then start solidifying DLine, LB's and Secondary. Or OLine if you have some opportune picks.

CoMoChief 01-12-2018 12:23 PM

OLB is the biggest need on D right now

Houston had a down yr
Hali will retire
Ford sucks, 1 dimensional at best, cant stay healthy either
KPass is still very raw

Wtf can the Chiefs really count on at this position other than a Houston thats a shell of his former self pre injury?

CB is probably 2nd biggest need but a good passrush can make avg JAG corners look legit.

Mecca 01-12-2018 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 13356182)
OLB is the biggest need on D right now

Houston had a down yr
Hali will retire
Ford sucks, 1 dimensional at best, cant stay healthy either
KPass is still very raw

Wtf can the Chiefs really count on at this position other than a Houston thats a shell of his former self pre injury?

CB is probably 2nd biggest need but a good passrush can make avg JAG corners look legit.

That's not really true when teams just do the 3 step drop quick fire to the side Peters isn't on.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-12-2018 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13355440)
Hope they get Pennel bc he could solve our NT problem for 3-4 years, but he was the reason why NYJ will move on from Muhammed Wilkerson, so we might not be able to get him.

Honestly at this point they need to just draft any defensive player that is the highest on the board. We could use an upgrade at literally any position at this point.

I say definitely just take BPA. Because even at safety, you've got Parker aging and Berry coming off of an Achilles. We saw how much it hurt the defense having him out.

CB is a need. ILB is a need. Edge rusher. Interior.

I'd be just fine with taking the best defensive player available every single round if they do that.

kccrow 01-13-2018 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13355440)
Hope they get Pennel bc he could solve our NT problem for 3-4 years, but he was the reason why NYJ will move on from Muhammed Wilkerson, so we might not be able to get him.

Honestly at this point they need to just draft any defensive player that is the highest on the board. We could use an upgrade at literally any position at this point.

Pennel is an RFA iirc, so that's probably the biggest hurdle. Also a reason I've fallen off Justin Coleman at CB.

nbarone007 01-13-2018 05:45 PM

Can't have garbage at OLB when your entire DL is comprised of 2-down players. We have absolutely no pass rush to speak of.

We need to aggressively attack the DL/OLB in free agency. We need to draft guys that can rush the passer.

Don't draft guys that are projects and need to change positions. Draft guys that can get to the quarterback.

Go after guys like Shaq Barrett and Kareem Martin in FA. One promising young FA and another solid jack of all trades guy that would be a massive upgrade over Zombo.

Berry back obviously helps the D in all areas and upgrading over Sorenson/Murray with a guy like Eric Reid would be superb.

NJChiefsFan 01-14-2018 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13350763)
They need a legit #2 wr and another ILB

Probably 2 corners and some dl

I don't think they can afford to spend capital on a WR. They need to fix 1-2 spots on the front 7 and get a CB. WR isn't a need compared to any of that.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-14-2018 11:43 PM

I'm definitely on board with the idea of loading up the DL and OLB positions. I just look at teams like the Eagles, Jags, Vikings... they are so deep and talented on their fronts.

Bewbies 01-16-2018 09:16 AM

Pretty sure if I could turn Alex Smith into Roquan Smith I'd have to go ahead and turn the draft off cause I'd be spent.

staylor26 01-17-2018 08:20 PM

I’d give my left nut for Vita Vea.

I’d settle for Phillips with our original 2nd and a corner like McFadden with whatever pick we get for Alex.

Plent of DL I’d be happy with in the 2nd though. This class is pretty stacked IMO, at least at the top.

Phillips, Ejiofor, Bryan, McIntosh, Nnadi to name a few that could be available on day 2. I think DL and either CB or OLB in the 2nd seems ideal. Then whichever one we don’t get in the 3rd.

RunKC 01-19-2018 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13345330)
Let’s talk about this position. Chris Jones is an obvious stud. Ideally we keep Bennie Logan at a reduced price. Allen Bailey either needs to take a big paycut or be given a pink slip.

Due to this years sub par FA class, I’ll start bringing up guys in the draft that I would love.

Here is my number 1 DL at this time: Harrison Phillips from Stanford.

6’4”
300 lbs

2016-6.5 sacks
2017-7 sacks

He’s also a damn good run stuffer...

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Welp. Daniel Jeremiah has Harrison Phillips as a 1st rd pick. So much for that.

Tribal Warfare 01-19-2018 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13370423)
Welp. Daniel Jeremiah has Harrison Phillips as a 1st rd pick. So much for that.

KC in the 1st round with the trade compensation for Alex, and what they'll do with Peters with Marcus being a PR and distraction liability going to be interesting.

NJChiefsFan 01-19-2018 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 13370471)
KC in the 1st round with the trade compensation for Alex, and what they'll do with Peters with Marcus being a PR and distraction liability going to be interesting.

I would imagine/hope that Peters is not a thought in their mind.

Chief Roundup 01-23-2018 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13357082)
I say definitely just take BPA. Because even at safety, you've got Parker aging and Berry coming off of an Achilles. We saw how much it hurt the defense having him out.

CB is a need. ILB is a need. Edge rusher. Interior.

I'd be just fine with taking the best defensive player available every single round if they do that.

I hate drafting for need it only sets us up to take lesser quality players.
We should take BPA that fits a position of need instead of passing on a better quality of player because we need whatever position.

staylor26 01-23-2018 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13378044)
I hate drafting for need it only sets us up to take lesser quality players.
We should take BPA that fits a position of need instead of passing on a better quality of player because we need whatever position.

Absolutely. The first 3-4 picks should be best defensive player or G available. I’d prefer to go defense though.

RunKC 01-23-2018 10:42 AM

I think the Chiefs will try to fix the “needs” in FA and then draft BPA.

Hopefully FA nets us a backup QB, LG, DL and DB.


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