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Woogieman 05-02-2021 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15656396)
People get too caught up on combine numbers. The combine for the most part doesn't matter. He's going to bring more nastiness to the D and I love it. Can't wait to see him crush a few RBs.

Yep...you don't have to run a 4.4 when you can easily diagnose the play and see where the hole is. That's NBs stock-in-trade.

The Franchise 05-02-2021 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15658621)
I had hopes of JOK or Zaven falling to us.


Laughable now in retrospect. Clearly Arizona saw what I saw in Zaven, just an absolute monster. Yet another LB that's going to put up insane numbers in Glendale.


That said, Bolton could be great. He may be small and his 3 cone might not wow anybody but he's got a lion's heart kind of like Mathieu. Man I was wrong about Honey Badger, I still don't know how he does it.

What the **** is Zaven going to play? MLB? Heís 270 lbs now and they just took Simmons high last year.

htismaqe 05-02-2021 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 15658600)
I think very few here had even heard of Speaks, not just because he was from Ol' Miss, but because he wasn't very distinguished. Bolton was the SEC leading tackler in 2019 and 2-Time All-SEC with a mediocre D-line. Very different body of work coming in.

Several of us had heard of Speaks. He was a consensus 2nd-team All-SEC player his senior season and was actually pretty productive while playing both DT and DE.

htismaqe 05-02-2021 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15658649)
What the **** is Zaven going to play? MLB? Heís 270 lbs now and they just took Simmons high last year.

Collins at 17 or Bolton at 58.

ROFL

It isnít even a discussion. The Cardinals have lost their minds

O.city 05-02-2021 09:54 AM

If you’re looking for an off ball linebacker I wouldn’t take Collins

I think he can play that hybrid de lb like they did with Reddick so that makes some sense

duncan_idaho 05-02-2021 10:02 AM

As for his speed... I donít recall that ever being a real issue in college, and he was used in coverage a lot.

Like most MLB, if a speedy RB gets isolated on him on a wheel or streak, Bolton doesnít have the speed to stay with him 50 yards downfield.

Bowser 05-02-2021 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15658687)
As for his speed... I donít recall that ever being a real issue in college, and he was used in coverage a lot.

Like most MLB, if a speedy RB gets isolated on him on a wheel or streak, Bolton doesnít have the speed to stay with him 50 yards downfield.

We should re-sign Justin Houston to do the covering 50 yards down the field.

(**** you, Bob Sutton)

Chris Meck 05-02-2021 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 15658588)
Poor receiver just got dragged down, like the two Vols players that got knocked out of the game. Who knew a good dragging could be so violent?

I CHOOSE VIOLENCE.

UChieffyBugger 05-02-2021 12:29 PM

If you listen to Kent and the other AP draft guys they were almost in tears about us getting Bolton (and Creed) lol it's just pathetic :D . According to them he's just a "two down back who does what Hitchens does"...smh and these guys do draft guides for Chiefs fans??? Yes Nick is not an all world guy in coverage yet but he certainly has shown the talent to cover his man and get ints so I don't know what they are talking about. Infact Zerline from nfl draft rated Bolton higher than he did Darius Leonard and says he's a three down back so we'll see who is right in the end.

RunKC 05-02-2021 12:32 PM

They’re kinda right though. Bolton does most things well. He isn’t great at anything physically and when you see him on tape. He’s a high floor, low ceiling player.

I guess you could say he’s very smart and that’s fine, but so is Hitchens and he’s kinda just there.

I think Gay has way more potential

staylor26 05-02-2021 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15658845)
They’re kinda right though. Bolton does most things well. He isn’t great at anything physically and when you see him on tape. He’s a high floor, low ceiling player.

I guess you could say he’s very smart and that’s fine, but so is Hitchens and he’s kinda just there.

I think Gay has way more potential

He’s absolutely great at playing downhill and knocking people the **** out.

To just shrug off the mental aspect is reeruned. The coaches have always spoken about Hitchens intelligence and ability to be a coach on the field since day 1. It’s extremely valuable for them, and it’s obvious why.

Bolton also has much more upside than Hitchens. He plays a lot faster/quicker, and he’s already probably better in coverage. His ball skills are also significantly better, so I’d expect him to make more plays in coverage than Hitchens ever has.

Would you rather pay Hitchens type of money again or get a much cheaper option with more upside on a rookie deal? It’s a position that had to be addressed this year or next, so I really don’t understand what the issue is at all.

Pasta Little Brother 05-02-2021 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 15658843)
If you listen to Kent and the other AP draft guys they were almost in tears about us getting Bolton (and Creed) lol it's just pathetic :D . According to them he's just a "two down back who does what Hitchens does"...smh and these guys do draft guides for Chiefs fans??? Yes Nick is not an all world guy in coverage yet but he certainly has shown the talent to cover his man and get ints so I don't know what they are talking about. Infact Zerline from nfl draft rated Bolton higher than he did Darius Leonard and says he's a three down back so we'll see who is right in the end.

Those clowns do not know jack about football. Why anyone would care about their opinion us beyond me. He's absolutely a 3 down backer.

Pasta Little Brother 05-02-2021 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15658845)
Theyíre kinda right though. Bolton does most things well. He isnít great at anything physically and when you see him on tape. Heís a high floor, low ceiling player.

I guess you could say heís very smart and thatís fine, but so is Hitchens and heís kinda just there.

I think Gay has way more potential

They aren't right...at all. It's like they either haven't seen him play or most likely gave no ****ing clue what they are looking at. We got our Darius Leonard type .

Chris Meck 05-02-2021 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15658845)
Theyíre kinda right though. Bolton does most things well. He isnít great at anything physically and when you see him on tape. Heís a high floor, low ceiling player.

I guess you could say heís very smart and thatís fine, but so is Hitchens and heís kinda just there.

I think Gay has way more potential

They said the same thing about Mathieu.

Sometimes guys are just really good at football.

Pitt Gorilla 05-02-2021 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 15658853)
They aren't right...at all. It's like they either haven't seen him play or most likely gave no ****ing clue what they are looking at. We got our Darius Leonard type .

Bolton isn't a workout warrior, which is why he was available when we picked.


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