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RealSNR 10-18-2021 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15901160)
Watching this guy again and he’s really starting to grow. He had another TFL as well as a “no gain” stop yesterday. That was after having 2 TFL’s last week. So he’s got 5 TFL’s in 6 games.

He’s our best tackler IMO. The guy knows how to wrap up and simply doesn’t miss often. And he is very smart. Watching him pre-snap he can tell the formation and what angles he’s gonna need.

No he’s no super athletic but playing in the middle doesn’t require that.

I think this guy was definitely a hit and will be a rock solid productive player for a long time. And again this is from someone who didn’t like the pick when it was made

"Where are the Pro Bowlers, Veach??!!!!! Draft us All Pros, you phony!!!!! Dorsey was better!!!!"

When you draft in the bottom of the first and have used half of your 1st rounders in trades while another one was traded before you became GM, getting a handful of halfway decent starters at a few interior positions isn't bad at all. A solid 4-3 Mike backer isn't glamorous, but if they're a significant notch better than dudes like Nico Johnson and give you competence and consistency, that's a good use of a 2nd round pick. Same goes for the Humphrey pick. If he's a solid starting C, that's a good 2nd round pick. If he's a future Pro Bowler (which he could be) that's a GREAT pick, even at C.

Sorry Veach hasn't unearthed a 15-sack edge rusher or a true WR1 with his late 2nd round picks and beyond in the draft, people. In the meantime, he HAS found many good players that can be good contributors on a Super Bowl team. You can criticize him for the reasons why he has only had one first round pick in his time as GM, but to bitch about the lack of All Pros and studs from his drafts given what he's had is kind of moronic.

wachashi 10-18-2021 12:20 PM

This dude currently leads the team in solo tackles, total tackles, and tackles for loss. Not bad for a rookie taken late in the second round. It's pretty obvious at this point that Veach nailed this and the Humphrey pick.

Wallymo 10-18-2021 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15901370)
But using pick 58 on him leads to those expectations. Because off ball LBs aren't high positional value you need a high level of production to make the pick worth it.

It's hard to have positional value concerns when you are trying to replace dog shit in the lineup. Would a better positional value pick have been a fourth corner for the team? Perhaps. But our LB corps was a wasteland. So good pick Vertch!

RunKC 10-18-2021 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15901370)
But using pick 58 on him leads to those expectations. Because off ball LBs aren't high positional value you need a high level of production to make the pick worth it.

A smart competent LB who is the QB of the defense is definitely worth it for the 58th pick.

Again we do need some stars and that’s what 1st rd picks and FA is for, but getting very good players in general is the goal.

Mahomes already gives us a huge advantage over the majority of teams. Having good players in general is what helps. They don’t. All need to be stars.

We just need to avoid Breeland Speaks type draft picks.

staylor26 10-18-2021 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15901370)
But using pick 58 on him leads to those expectations. Because off ball LBs aren't high positional value you need a high level of production to make the pick worth it.

:facepalm:

All-Pro is realistic expectations at 58? In what ****ing universe?

Perineum Ripper 10-18-2021 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15901370)
But using pick 58 on him leads to those expectations. Because off ball LBs aren't high positional value you need a high level of production to make the pick worth it.

If people are expecting pick 58 to be an All Pro because he is not a high value position, they are being unrealistic.

JPH83 10-18-2021 01:52 PM

I liked the pick, thought he was a high floor not massively high ceiling type. I don't think he's been that good, but I still think he'll be a solid player. He's come on board with an absolute dumpster fire at DL and a player next to him whose meant to be the general and looks completely clueless. Plus it's a hard position to come in and rip it up from the get go - there aren't going to be many JOKs. Still optimistic.

notorious 10-18-2021 03:46 PM

Bolton has been very good.

His instincts are fantastic so far.

BryanBusby 10-18-2021 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15901160)
Watching this guy again and he’s really starting to grow. He had another TFL as well as a “no gain” stop yesterday. That was after having 2 TFL’s last week. So he’s got 5 TFL’s in 6 games.

He’s our best tackler IMO. The guy knows how to wrap up and simply doesn’t miss often. And he is very smart. Watching him pre-snap he can tell the formation and what angles he’s gonna need.

No he’s no super athletic but playing in the middle doesn’t require that.

I think this guy was definitely a hit and will be a rock solid productive player for a long time. And again this is from someone who didn’t like the pick when it was made

He's going to get better. Granted you probably don't want him covering Noah Fant for 30+ yards but I really do think he's going to erase a lot of the bad run D when the light fully turns on.

He's getting there.

Superturtle 10-18-2021 03:56 PM

LMAO There's been an off ball LB drafted in or near the top 10 for at least the last half decades worth of drafts.

Reddick
Smith
White
Simmons
Parsons

keg in kc 10-18-2021 03:57 PM

Watching him play has been kind of like seeing everything you hear about why Ben Neimann is on the field but he's actually athletic enough to make a few plays .

notorious 10-18-2021 03:58 PM

The dude stones guys. They don’t get any extra yards very often once he makes contact.

Pitt Gorilla 10-18-2021 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15901735)
LMAO There's been an off ball LB drafted in or near the top 10 for at least the last half decades worth of drafts.

Reddick
Smith
White
Simmons
Parsons

Bolton has basically produced like Devin White this season.

tredadda 10-18-2021 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15901914)
Bolton has basically produced like Devin White this season.

That is huge as White is one of the best young LBs in the league. Would love if Bolton can continue to produce like that.

PAChiefsGuy 10-18-2021 08:10 PM

He looked good out there. Hopefully he continues to improve and he becomes a great player for us. Chiefs sure could use the help on D.


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