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Mother****erJones 10-22-2015 10:02 AM

Aaron Murray couldn't be any worse and would cost only a mid round rookie contract whereas Smith is costing us a franchise rate.

scho63 10-22-2015 10:14 AM

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OctoberFart 10-22-2015 11:23 AM

He has to do a better job.

Rausch 10-22-2015 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OctoberFart (Post 11824665)
He has to do a better job.

Elsewhere...

Mr. Laz 10-22-2015 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 11824516)
Aaron Murray couldn't be any worse and would cost only a mid round rookie contract whereas Smith is costing us a franchise rate.

Actually Smith's contract is about 15th in the NFL for QB's.

He really doesn't hit "franchise money" until 2016


I don't expect Alex Smith will ever see his 2017 and 2018 money which is almost HALF of the total value of his contract.

Rausch 10-22-2015 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11824682)
I don't expect Alex Smith will ever see his 2017 and 2018 money which is almost HALF of the total value of his contract.

If he see's 2016 this team is fail...

The Franchise 10-22-2015 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11824696)
If he see's 2016 this team is fail...

June 1st cut and we get $1 million added to our cap space.

BigMeatballDave 10-22-2015 11:47 AM

We can still finish 11-5 guys!http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_XnCGHyg0_s/maxresdefault.jpg

KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN 10-22-2015 12:40 PM

Andy Reid still believes...that it's time to hit that all you can eat buffet!

Mr. Laz 10-22-2015 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11824696)
If he see's 2016 this team is fail...

His cap hit is pretty big if we cut him in 2016 iirc.

I believe a new regime would keep him around 1 more year even if they draft somebody.

according to over-the-cap

2016 pre june 1st cut: $24,900,000 dead money and $7,100,000 cap hit
2016 after june 1st cut: $17,700,000 dead money and $100,000 cap SAVINGS

2017 pre june 1st cut: $7,100,000 dead money and $9,700,000 cap savings
2017 after june 1st cut: $3,600,000 dead money and $13,300,000 cap savings


cap wise keeping him around a year with a QB draft pick makes way more sense

O.city 10-22-2015 01:57 PM

Would require clark to cut him a big check

bevischief 10-22-2015 02:09 PM

In that the Wizard of Oz was a true story.

Mav 10-22-2015 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11822266)
Alex Smith is rallying the team.

Don't worry.


Uhhhh.....check down

TEX 10-22-2015 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11824696)
If he see's 2016 this team is fail...

You're right but it's gonna be too big of a hit to let him go after this season. Will probably keep him for one more year. I won't have a problem with it IF they get a franchise QB.

Well, that's not true, I still will...

Mr. Laz 10-22-2015 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 11825072)
You're right but it's gonna be too big of a hit to let him go after this season. Will probably keep him for one more year. I won't have a problem with it IF they get a franchise QB.

Well, that's not true, I still will...

As long as Alex Smith is just a placeholder then he's fine for another year. He's a team guy and won't cause problems.

If we still don't have a plan than that's a problem whether AS is here or not.

Saccopoo 10-22-2015 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11825396)
As long as Alex Smith is just a placeholder then he's fine for another year. He's a team guy and won't cause problems.

If we still don't have a plan than that's a problem whether AS is here or not.

They better have a ****ing plan that includes drafting a QB next year and playing Murray after the bye week to find out if the guy is just wasting a roster spot, can fill in for Daniel or has the potential of starting in the league.

Smith is a solid Hasselbeck type mentor/clipboard holder at this point.

They need to get the long term answer in here this next draft.

jimidollar 10-22-2015 08:24 PM

It's ****ed up when your punter is your leader.

Hammock Parties 10-13-2021 08:09 AM

He still believes.

Hammock Parties 10-13-2021 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11824718)

We did.

Wallcrawler 10-13-2021 08:56 AM

I dont think our defense was this much of an abomination.

The slow start to that year was due to some top tier pant shitting on the sideline by Randy.

Once that issue was resolved, we went on a tear. He actually had a defense that could stop a busload of old women.

There's just not anything that Andy can do here. Defense is not his thing. He has to be perfect on offense now. He has to understand the situation that if we plow into the centers ass for a 2 yard loss on 3rd n 2 when we have the best qb on the planet and a bevy of better options, and we fail, we are gonna be down another 7 points.

He needs to cast aside his faith in the defense, but he wont.

He has to be perfect, and he's not. Nobody is.

Steve needs to un **** the defensive scheme or hit the bricks.

We are surrendering 30 points per game. You aren't winning anything with that trash on the field.

Hammock Parties 10-13-2021 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 15891828)
We are surrendering 30 points per game. You aren't winning anything with that trash on the field.

29 PPG through five games in 2015

Wallcrawler 10-13-2021 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15891829)
29 PPG through five games in 2015

So youre sayin theres a chance......

Hammock Parties 10-13-2021 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 15891942)
So youre sayin theres a chance......

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smithandrew051 10-13-2021 10:51 AM

If it takes losing the turnover battle by 4-0 to lose to good teams, then the Chiefs will beat the bad teams without even significantly improving.

Just get hot at the right time and stay healthy. We’ll have a chance come playoff time.

Sorce 10-13-2021 10:52 AM

https://i.imgur.com/9F0MEhC.jpg

/CP

milkshock 10-13-2021 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 15891828)
I dont think our defense was this much of an abomination.

The slow start to that year was due to some top tier pant shitting on the sideline by Randy.

Once that issue was resolved, we went on a tear. He actually had a defense that could stop a busload of old women.

There's just not anything that Andy can do here. Defense is not his thing. He has to be perfect on offense now. He has to understand the situation that if we plow into the centers ass for a 2 yard loss on 3rd n 2 when we have the best qb on the planet and a bevy of better options, and we fail, we are gonna be down another 7 points.

He needs to cast aside his faith in the defense, but he wont.

He has to be perfect, and he's not. Nobody is.

Steve needs to un **** the defensive scheme or hit the bricks.

We are surrendering 30 points per game. You aren't winning anything with that trash on the field.


No that year was worse. At this point only the very top teams can run with us - if that’s because of our offense being massively stronger than it was under AS so be it.

This weekend for example I think most of us expect to steamroll WFT and ultimately end up in the playoffs this year. We may well be a one and done but thats a different story.

Not sure anyone believed we were capable of a winning record let alone the division at 1-5.


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Hammock Parties 10-13-2021 11:29 AM

Mahomes ain't never going one and done.

crispystl 10-13-2021 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15892112)
Mahomes ain't never going one and done.

DAMN ****ING RIGHT HE AIN'T

KCChiefsFan88 10-13-2021 11:53 AM

In 2015 the Chiefs dropped to 1-4 after five weeks, with a terrible home loss at Arrowhead, and losing RB #25 to injury.

In 2021 the Chiefs dropped to 2-3 after five weeks, with a terrible home loss at Arrowhead, and losing RB #25 to injury.

The difference in 2021 is Patrick Mahomes vs. Alex Smiff in 2015.

Hammock Parties 10-13-2021 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 15892149)
In 2015 the Chiefs dropped to 1-4 after five weeks, with a terrible home loss at Arrowhead, and losing RB #25 to injury.

In 2021 the Chiefs dropped to 2-3 after five weeks, with a terrible home loss at Arrowhead, and losing RB #25 to injury.

The difference in 2021 is Patrick Mahomes vs. Alex Smiff in 2015.

I AM QUOTING THIS POST TO SHOW MY AGREEMENT.

New World Order 10-13-2021 12:01 PM

In the words of the Trivia King:

We gotta belief!!!!

carcosa 10-13-2021 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 15892175)
In the words of the Trivia King:

We gotta belief!!!!

I belief that we will when!!!;

Beef Supreme 10-13-2021 04:47 PM

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Stryker 10-13-2021 07:55 PM

BELIEVE? ROFL BELIEVE THIS - This team is NOT going to turn it around in time to change ANYTHING. This team is a hull of it's past self. We had an INCREDIBLE last 3 seasons and the NFL has figured it out - COVER 2! Gut the D in the off season and rebuild the D in 2 seasons.

Your playoff teams are these...

AFC
Bills, Ravens, Chargers, Titans - NEITHER of which the Chiefs could beat.

NFC
Bucs, Rams, Cards, Packers - NEITHER of which the Chiefs could beat.

It sucks but it is what it is - WE SUCK! Thanks shitty D and thanks numerus TO's in the first 5 games. NOT HAPPENING!

smithandrew051 10-13-2021 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 15892821)
BELIEVE? ROFL BELIEVE THIS - This team is NOT going to turn it around in time to change ANYTHING. This team is a hull of it's past self. We had an INCREDIBLE last 3 seasons and the NFL has figured it out - COVER 2! Gut the D in the off season and rebuild the D in 2 seasons.

Your playoff teams are these...

AFC
Bills, Ravens, Chargers, Titans - NEITHER of which the Chiefs could beat.

NFC
Bucs, Rams, Cards, Packers - NEITHER of which the Chiefs could beat.

It sucks but it is what it is - WE SUCK! Thanks shitty D and thanks numerus TO's in the first 5 games. NOT HAPPENING!

Counterpoint: GO **** YOURSELF!!!!!

carcosa 10-13-2021 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15892823)
Counterpoint: GO **** YOURSELF!!!!!

EPIC THIS!!!!!!!!

Bowser 10-13-2021 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Beef Supreme (Post 15892609)
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Sax Guy! LMAO


And bah gawd King, that's Young Jami Gertz's music!!

https://www.tvtrev.com/content/images/2014/Jan/jizz.gif

Stryker 10-13-2021 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15892823)
Counterpoint: GO **** YOURSELF!!!!!

Go **** myself? LOL! Are not watching what is happening to this team week in and week out? JC? YOU are an IDIOT to "BELIEVE" this is going to change - this is not a fairy tale - this is a team that SUCKS! Leaving now so that I can go **** MYSELF! Keep on believing - FOOL! LMAO

KS Smitty 10-13-2021 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 15892836)
Go **** myself? LOL! Are not watching what is happening to this team week in and week out? JC? YOU are an IDIOT to "BELIEVE" this is going to change - this is not a fairy tale - this is a team that SUCKS! Leaving now so that I can go **** MYSELF! Keep on believing - FOOL! LMAO

Seriously, you've made your thoughts quite clear in many threads on here. I think we've all got it. Thanks for sharing!

Stryker 10-13-2021 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KS Smitty (Post 15892850)
Seriously, you've made your thoughts quite clear in many threads on here. I think we've all got it. Thanks for sharing!

And officially, I WILL STOP. I am frustrated like all of you are but it just sucks/hurts that this superior NFL team has fallen to a cold cellar status. It breaks my heart and kills me mostly for all the locals who spend so much on tickets, parking, tailgating, concessions for a 0 return on investment. I promise to not say anything else about the Chiefs this season in a negative fashion.


CP I formally apologize for my negativity on this forum. Shutting up now.

rabblerouser 10-13-2021 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 15892821)
BELIEVE? ROFL BELIEVE THIS - This team is NOT going to turn it around in time to change ANYTHING. This team is a hull of it's past self. We had an INCREDIBLE last 3 seasons and the NFL has figured it out - COVER 2! Gut the D in the off season and rebuild the D in 2 seasons.

Your playoff teams are these...

AFC
Bills, Ravens, Chargers, Titans - NEITHER of which the Chiefs could beat.

NFC
Bucs, Rams, Cards, Packers - NEITHER of which the Chiefs could beat.

It sucks but it is what it is - WE SUCK! Thanks shitty D and thanks numerus TO's in the first 5 games. NOT HAPPENING!

That's not entirely true. If they bench Sorensen, move Jones back inside, and Gordon balls out?

We could get it together. Will they do those things? I don't know.

We went through a rough stretch in 2019. I've been preaching that you want to peak in Dec-Jan-Feb, not Sept-Oct-Nov

Simply Red 10-13-2021 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 15892253)
I belief that we will when!!!;

wii ALL when!!,,,

rabblerouser 10-13-2021 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 15892941)
wii ALL when!!,,,

WEE OWL WHEN!!

sully1983 10-13-2021 11:25 PM

a lot of dumb posts in this thread

crayzkirk 10-14-2021 01:03 AM

I wouldn't go so far as to say the Chiefs suck; they do have some issues on defense that would be solved by a solid pass rush and better run stoppage. Right now, there's plays where the opposing team gets a pass and there's absolutely no one even in the picture for ten yards.

The turnovers have been bad, the inability to make a stop on defense to give some momentum to the offense is an issue.

They don't suck, they just appear distracted and disinterested.

Kman34 10-14-2021 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 15892821)
BELIEVE? ROFL BELIEVE THIS - This team is NOT going to turn it around in time to change ANYTHING. This team is a hull of it's past self. We had an INCREDIBLE last 3 seasons and the NFL has figured it out - COVER 2! Gut the D in the off season and rebuild the D in 2 seasons.

Your playoff teams are these...

AFC
Bills, Ravens, Chargers, Titans - NEITHER of which the Chiefs could beat.

NFC
Bucs, Rams, Cards, Packers - NEITHER of which the Chiefs could beat.

It sucks but it is what it is - WE SUCK! Thanks shitty D and thanks numerus TO's in the first 5 games. NOT HAPPENING!

7 teams per conference make the playoffs… The Chiefs will be one of them.. We will always have a chance with our QB..

Chiefspants 10-14-2021 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 15892821)
BELIEVE? ROFL BELIEVE THIS - This team is NOT going to turn it around in time to change ANYTHING. This team is a hull of it's past self. We had an INCREDIBLE last 3 seasons and the NFL has figured it out - COVER 2! Gut the D in the off season and rebuild the D in 2 seasons.

Your playoff teams are these...

AFC
Bills, Ravens, Chargers, Titans - NEITHER of which the Chiefs could beat.

NFC
Bucs, Rams, Cards, Packers - NEITHER of which the Chiefs could beat.

It sucks but it is what it is - WE SUCK! Thanks shitty D and thanks numerus TO's in the first 5 games. NOT HAPPENING!


Fool, NEITHER refers to two things. Thus, your argument is INVALID.

Chiefs goin' all the way.


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