Okay, so who are you going to trade?

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Lemmerman, but I don't know how much value he has(not as high as Wong's).

I've actually seen the idea of trading Freese in recent weeks; not just because of Marp, but Wisdom & Tilson as well.

Tilson plays OF, does he not? And Wisdom, despite his power, is struggling to hit .200 and is a long ways off. Kelly is in the same boat; we have a long time before we know if he'll play at this level.

We need Freese for at least the next 2 seasons; moving him to make room for Wong when Wong will almost certainly not be a better player is just bizarre.

I wonder what you've have to give up to the Jays to get Brett Cecil. Wong+what?

They have a huge hole at 2B and Cecil flopped as a starter, but has been a dominant reliever for them.

He's been an awful pitcher for 450 innings in his major league career.

He's been a good one for the last 30.

Scrabble had a pretty similar profile right before he fell apart. I wouldn't give up a likely starting 2b for him and I damn sure wouldn't let them talk me into any "+"...

He's just a lefthanded reliever. Choate's actually done a credible job and with Gast, Siegrist and Lyons doing well and not having been tested in the LHRP role, I'm not sure why we'd be eager to give up a decent asset for him.

Lemmerman? Just who do you think you can get at the trade deadline for him?

Oliver Perez. Discuss.

No idea. Think low level LOOGY.

St. Louis radio intimated that the organization believes there is almost no chance that Gast is used as a LHRP due to a lack of a breaking ball that's considered an out pitch, whereas Lyons is thought of as destined for that role because he has two breaking pitches that profile as put away offerings.

The caveat on Cecil is a lack of sample size as a reliever, about 45 IP. But if you actually look at the comps as relievers, he strikes out far more batters while walking far less than Rzepczynski. In fact, it's not particularly close.

The obvious concern is whether or not that will hold up, but his peripherals suggest that he isn't merely getting by on luck at this point, although he's definitely been fortunate.

It doesn't matter. I started watching Cardinals baseball in the late 80's so obviously Ozzie Smith was one of my childhood favs but another was Willie McGee. He was a true Cardinal, I didn't judge by their color but by their play.

If Wong ends up an above average defensive 2b with an .800 OPS, his value smokes Brett Cecil, especially since Cecil will only come with 3 years of team control (and be arb eligible for all of them).

If we're looking at relievers, I'd deal Wong for a wipeout RHRP with 3+ years of remaining service time that we could use as a closer while waiting to see which of the young arms can't transition to the starting rotation and/or waiting for Swagerty to make it back. The Royals likely wouldn't give up Kelvin Herrera for him (and probably wouldn't give up Holland either), but for 6 years of a guy that's a likely 2-3 WAR player, that's the kind of return I'm going to want.

6 years of Wong is worth quite a bit.

On a side note - Matt Carpenter is already at 3 WAR on the year. That's just freakin' incredible.

The Royals take high first round picks like Hosmer/Moustakas and turn them into below replacement level players while the Cardinals just got 2 months worth of legitimate MVP caliber play from a 13th round pick and have an 8th rounder batting cleanup for a top 10 offense.

Who saw that coming? He has really turned into a real find.:thumb: