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htismaqe 05-05-2021 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15662459)
Some of you assholes are going to be eating a ton of crow if he turns out to be good.

He was pick 58.....not pick 10. If he turns out to be Hitchens or better than it was a good pick.

Yep.

At WORST, it's a lateral move that frees up a big chunk of cap space.

I can't believe people actually hate this pick that much.

It's every bit the pick that Humphrey was.

htismaqe 05-05-2021 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15662791)
The pick shouldn’t have surprised anyone really that much, especially when you take a step back.

We had a giant hole at one of base LB positions.

We were one injury away to Hitch or Gay from seeing Ben Niemann FULL TIME. That is how your defense takes a turn for the worst fast.

We needed a long term solution to take over for Hitchens when he is a cap casualty next year.

As Franchise pointed out, if Bolton becomes 2020 Anthony Hitchens, that’s a great pick. A guy who is a great leader and does a solid to good job in all phases, lines everyone up (making everyone else better).

He doesn’t need to be the athletic run-and-chase freak LB, we need Gay to become that guy. And Bolton will make a lot of plays that way too I think, but it’s the intangible stuff he really is coming in to take over once Hitchens is moved on.

Yep.

Tribal Warfare 05-05-2021 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15663228)
Yep.

At WORST, it's a lateral move that frees up a big chunk of cap space.

I can't believe people actually hate this pick that much.

It's every bit the pick that Humphrey was.



Humphrey could be a stalwart OL for 10 years , Bolton could be love/hate player having decent to solid games then having absolutely dreadful games questioning if he can blackmail the FO & Coaching staff with pictures of them participating in a Mexican donkey show.

htismaqe 05-05-2021 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15663308)
Humphrey could be a stalwart OL for 10 years , Bolton could be love/hate player having decent to solid games then having absolutely dreadful games questioning if he can blackmail the FO & Coaching staff with pictures of them participating in a Mexican donkey show.

Sorry man, you're letting emotion cloud your judgement.

Your last sentence is pure nonsense.

Tribal Warfare 05-05-2021 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15663323)
Sorry man, you're letting emotion cloud your judgement.

Your last sentence is pure nonsense.


That's what he'll be a Peaks and valley's player because of his average athletic ability because if he reads a play wrong he's ****ed because he can't recover

htismaqe 05-05-2021 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15663333)
That's what he'll be a Peaks and valley's player because of his average athletic ability because if he reads a play wrong he's ****ed because he can't recover

He was an all-SEC linebacker known for being the opposite of up and down.

Have you even watched him play? Go read some scouting reports, you'll find that what you're saying has no basis in actual reality.

Tribal Warfare 05-05-2021 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15663340)
He was an all-SEC linebacker know for being the opposite of up and down.

Have you even watched him play? Go read some scouting reports, you'll find that what you're saying has no basis in actual reality.


How's that? If there aren't any weaknesses to his game then he'd be a 1st round pick.

Hence the love-hate element.

htismaqe 05-05-2021 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15663349)
How's that? If there aren't any weaknesses to his game then he'd be a 1st round pick.

Hence the love-hate element.

There are weaknesses to his game. "Up and down" isn't one of them, however. Neither is lack of speed.

His biggest weakness is how he processes the game and the fact that he is somewhat hesitant in his reads. That can be coached.

He also lacks ideal size but that has nothing to do with closing speed.

As for him being a 1st round pick, he was a 1st round pick on nearly every board out there.

Sorry man but you're way off base here. There are definitely things about his game that aren't ideal but "inconsistent" isn't even close to being a problem.

ModSocks 05-05-2021 03:29 PM

Chris Simms breaks down Lord Nick of House Bolton. I've time stamped the video for your convenience.

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Tribal Warfare 05-05-2021 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15663357)
There are weaknesses to his game. "Up and down" isn't one of them, however. Neither is lack of speed.

His biggest weakness is how he processes the game and the fact that he is somewhat hesitant in his reads. That can be coached.

He also lacks ideal size but that has nothing to do with closing speed.

As for him being a 1st round pick, he was a 1st round pick on nearly every board out there.

Sorry man but you're way off base here. There are definitely things about his game that aren't ideal but "inconsistent" isn't even close to being a problem.

His short area speed is worse than Tamba's, but we'll find out if he's maxed out but some of you are acting like he's a future all-pro.

ModSocks 05-05-2021 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15663384)
His short area speed is worse than Tamba's

Lol wtf. Based on what?

htismaqe 05-05-2021 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15663384)
His short area speed is worse than Tamba's, but we'll find out if he's maxed out but some of you are acting like he's a future all-pro.

This is exactly what I'm talking about.

I never said he was a future all-pro. In fact, if you had actually been paying attention instead of making up stuff to bitch about, you'd know that I've said I don't think he'll be an all-pro. I don't think he has that kind of upside.

You've given in to histrionics man. Come back to reality.

Tribal Warfare 05-05-2021 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15663397)
This is exactly what I'm talking about.

I never said he was a future all-pro. In fact, if you had actually been paying attention instead of making up stuff to bitch about, you'd know that I've said I don't think he'll be an all-pro. I don't think he has that kind of upside.

You've given in to histrionics man. Come back to reality.


Not bitching at all, but just want individuals to temper their expectations, because if the safe football player moniker is telling what to expect.

ModSocks 05-05-2021 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15663407)
Not bitching at all, but just want individuals to temper their expectations, because if the safe football player moniker is telling what to expect.

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15663384)
His short area speed is worse than Tamba's.

Yeah but...what are you basing this off of?

RunKC 05-05-2021 04:06 PM

He’s a straight line short area speed type of player. As in you better make the right read because his lateral and side to side speed is below average


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