If Mahomes is ready this week...
 

He should be the backup :D

Flame away :thumb:

If he is ready to play then he should play


Why hinder this team ?

If Pat is healthy enough to play, he should play. If he's not, he shouldn't suit up. Anything in between is just being a pussy.

moore is in stride. first sign of struggle, or two, then consider it. my thinking is if moore has control of the offense and we pulled out a win, don't we have a bye next week? i don't care about pat's stats. that is five weeks of healing time and they could go 2-1 without him. this is not a bledsoe vs brady situation. :D

No, we dont have a bye. We play the Chargers.

Nah you give the team a boost of moral with Patrick back and give Chiefs best opportunity to win and send a message to the league and haters.

**** YOU!!!!!!!

If we go up 38 -0 by halftime then sit Mahomes and play Moore in second half.

well, there goes my theory :D

still, you make him backup this week, start him next week to knock off some rust, into the bye week.

my point is let moore fail before you insert him after mahomes first designation as full participant. only for a week :thumb:

EAT A DICK!!!! :D

If he is really ready then he plays. If he is only a 'little-bit' ready then don't play him.

im saying if he's 100%, make him break in case of emergency. it's not like they are 3-6 :D

look, the defense is playing 'well'? :D

aside from moore seeming awkward and fumbling a few times, we should give sir pat an extra week off to be 'safe' :thumb:

Rude much?????

He should play if hes ready/cleared

was it the emoji? asking for a friend o:-)

you must be a patriot fan? :D

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has nothing to do with my question :thumb:

Mahomes needs reps before the Chargers game. But, like someone said earlier, if we get up big, sit him and let Moore wrap it up!!!!!!!!!!!!

Technically he IS the backup right now.

What is it with the morons who want PM to be the backup QB? If he is healthy, you play him, period. Look, this is the NFL. There are no gimmes. If you don't bring your best, you can easily get beaten. And yeah, the Titans aren't elite. But they are still in the playoff hunt and could provide a challenge. Never count your wins beforehand and never take an opponent for granted. All hands on deck.

Nick, your whole premise is off. If he’s 100%, there is zero reason to not play him. 100% means 100%. There is just no logic to not playing him if he’s healthy. If he’s not 100%, sure don’t play him.

I agree.

Load management

Mahomes may not be the silver bullet

He played in two of those 3 losses and lost.
just sayin

Not a hater

Why is it that risky? If Moore looks like ass, you could bring in Mahomes after the first drive. The worst-case scenario would be you end up being down by 7 before Mahomes touches the ball, and the best-case scenario is that Mahomes gets an extra week of rest.

He was hurt

IF HE IS HEALTHY HE NEEDS TO PLAY.

This is the NFL, the any given Sunday league. And in case you haven’t noticed, the Faid are riding our asses. You don’t just healthy scratch elite players in this league.

Please hang yourself

Full practice all week....draw your own conclusions

If Mahomes is healthy enough that you trust he can come in if Moore gets injured or plays like crap then he should be the starter. Why is this concept so hard to understand? If he's healthy enough to play, he plays. He is the starting QB. He is the team leader. He is, by far, the most talented QB on this team. He is the most talented QB in the NFL. You don't sit that kind of player if he is able to play.

:shrug:

Is he more likely to get hurt this week than he would be next week? It sounds like the answer is a definite yes, though the difference may be slight.

Do we need him to beat the Titans? Seems unlikely, but out of caution you could have him available as a backup.

That's about all it comes down to for me. Yes, he CAN play. I don't think there's much of a doubt about that. But if we can protect him a bit and make sure he's in GREAT shape rather than just OK shape, that seems like a win to me.

If he’s able to be the backup, start him.

If he’s the backup at any slip up on offense everyone will be looking for him to come in. No reason for that, just start him or don’t dress him

Exactly the case.

Where has it been said another week does that much difference?

The risk of reinjury for that particularly injury decreases as time goes on. It's obviously on a curve, so the difference from Week 1 to Week 2 is huge, the difference between Week 2 to Week 3 is substantial, and the differences become more and more slight after that. Just making numbers up to illustrate the point, the chances of reinjury might go something like 80%, 40%, 20%, 10%, 5%, 2.5%, 1.25%, 0.75%, etc. It will likely never be 100% without surgery, and it's fairly likely he'll go that route in the offseason.

There are lots of videos about it on the interwebs if you'd like to dig around. The gist is that you can think of those tendons like a rubber band that got stretched out way too far. Give it enough time, and it'll shrink back down to pretty close to the size it's supposed to be, but it takes a while, and it'll never be quite the same as it once was.

Thank you for explaining it... I have no patience. The quote you produced yesterday should have been good enough for everyone to follow. I'm getting the feeling that those who don't see the common sense of the matter, don't want to.

Don't get me wrong, I'm generally fine if the team decides to start him, and I do admit that it would be somewhat unusual to have him active but not starting. I just don't think that it's this completely wild idea that isn't worth consideration.

I also think it's important to point out that the questions of "Can he effectively play the game?" and "Is he likely to be reinjured if he takes a hit in the knee?" are completely separate in this case. Yes, he'll be able to move and throw pretty normally. It's purely a matter of risk mitigation.

You ignore how there's 2 1/2 full games of film on Moore now, and sooner or later, Defenses are going to pick up on his tendencies and pick him apart.

If he's healthy, he plays. No questions asked.

Exactly, what is the best you can hope for in a backup? He comes in for 2-3 games and manages to keep you afloat. He went 2-1 in his three games. Thats awesome, thank you Matt.

Titans are a decent team that we have had all kinds of trouble with in the past. We need to beat them, period. Our best chance of doing that is with Patrick. By all accounts he is ready to go, you play him!

GO CHIEFS!!

HE GOOD!!

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That’s what I thought, I just meant more specifically to this case if it had been said and I’d missed it.

If they want to hold him out post bye, it’s whatever to me. I get the caution

But at some point, you’ve gotta win games and he gives you the best chance. The goal is to win the super bowl and with the 1 seed now seemingly back in play, it is what it is.

Again I understand big picture and all, but if we or they are that afraid of reinjury and it’s that common or could be that much of a possibility, just have surgery and shut him down until next year.

I’m guessing they’re not goin on a whim here thoigh

I agree. While we all want PMII in the game, how does he really feel? Just because he's "medically cleared" doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy. I don't have a whole lot of faith in our medical staff right now.

My guess is that they're just waiting to see if it swells or flares up by Sunday. If it doesn't after a week of full practice and he feels good and confident, he'll suit up and start.

This completely.

The Raiders are in our rear view mirror right on our bumper. We can't be thinking we have a real big cushion between us and them plus they have an easier remaining schedule. If we stumbled against Tennessee by trying to play it too safe, that would be catastrophic.

I think Mahomes should start without a doubt even if he's 90-95% healthy.

is there 20+ games on Mahomes?
Mahomes has been pretty public that he (they) struggle with
man to man defenses

:facepalm:

1. No one is 100% halfway into the season.

2. If he is 85% there, you play him.

3. If the risk of injury doesn't go down with more time, there is no reason to take more time.
If this idea made sense at all, Brady would have never played against his division for the last
15 years.

4. MOORE IS NOT PLAYING GREAT. IN CASE YOU MISSED IT, HE NEARLY FUMBLED THE GAME AWAY TWICE. WE HAVE SKATED BY ON GOOD FORTUNE, NOT GOOD QB PLAY.

5. The difference between winning this game and losing it will be a bye week in the playoffs. The AFC is a much tighter race than we thought, and no one needs to go to Baltimore in January, especially this team.

Matt Moore is fool's gold. He damn near came unraveled at the end of the game last week with some god-awful fumbles.

Make no mistake, the shine WILL come off. It always does with QB's like these.

We should take our W's, say thank you and move on as quickly as possible.

Yeah. The narrative completely shifts if we lose that game due to one of those ghastly fumbles.

moore looked like a guy who had had the book on him cracked by the end of the vikings game

he was about to start providing diminishing returns now that there's film on him

You, me, and Andy Reid know what’s up.