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go bo 08-25-2009 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by wild1 (Post 6000566)
it should be bannable to start any post with the words "You do know". Invariably what follows is pompous and makes you want to kick the person in the shin...
you do know, don't you? really...

btw, you want to kick someone in the shin?

with a little better aim you could kick their family jewels into the next county...

as for pompous, how long have you been around here?

Donger 08-25-2009 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 6000756)
DUDE. Donger. If you put a plane on a treadmill and engaged the engine, it will create thrust and move the body of the plane, regardless of WTF the wheels are doing, off of the treadmill, and take the fugg off.
Yes, we've established what is required to produce lift.

Bearcat 08-25-2009 05:07 PM
For great conversation.... Rain Man, FAX, Phobia, TinyEvel, HC_Chief

For just football... stevieray, hismaque (whatever), OTW, Mecca, keg

For dinner and a show... frazod, KcMizzou, Zach, irishjayhawk, Laz



People left out, not enough chairs, etc.

Buehler445 08-25-2009 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 6000767)
Yes, we've established what is required to produce lift.
Don't be an ass. That is what will happen regardless of what the wheels are doing. Another good example is that the wheels will move at a slower speed with a tailwind, which illustrates that it doesn't matter what the wheels do. If the engines are creating enough thrust to creade lift, the ****er's flying.

Baby Lee articulated it much more effectively than I did.
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Buehler445 08-25-2009 05:21 PM
As far as the OP, its too hard of a question. Too many good posters here.
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Donger 08-25-2009 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 6000781)
Don't be an ass. That is what will happen regardless of what the wheels are doing. Another good example is that the wheels will move at a slower speed with a tailwind, which illustrates that it doesn't matter what the wheels do. If the engines are creating enough thrust to creade lift, the ****er's flying.

Baby Lee articulated it much more effectively than I did.
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Actually, the wheels in the treadmill scenario are very important. As I said, if the wheels are locked, then the treadmill basically acts as a catapult. The plane would quickly achieve sufficient ground speed (or air speed over the wings, if you prefer) required to achieve lift and flight. If the wheels are free to spin, that makes thing a bit more complicated.

seclark 08-25-2009 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 6000562)
get outta my head sec.
SHUT YOUR COCKHOLSTER OR I'LL STAB YOU IN THE FACE WITH AN ICE PICK!!!
sec

Buehler445 08-25-2009 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 6000785)
Actually, the wheels in the treadmill scenario are very important. As I said, if the wheels are locked, then the treadmill basically acts as a catapult. The plane would quickly achieve sufficient ground speed (or air speed over the wings, if you prefer) required to achieve lift and flight. If the wheels are free to spin, that makes thing a bit more complicated.
The wheels don't matter. The thrust does.

You need to read Baby Lee's post.

Donger 08-25-2009 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 6000790)
The wheels don't matter. The thrust does.

You need to read Baby Lee's post.
If the wheels are locked and the treadmill moves, the wheels most certainly do matter. Because the plane will move in the direction the treadmill is moving, regardless of any other motive force.

Donger 08-25-2009 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 6000790)
The wheels don't matter. The thrust does.

You need to read Baby Lee's post.
Look at it this way:

A plane is sitting on a treadmill

The wheels are free to spin.

The plane's propeller is not moving (so it has no forward thrust).

The treadmill begins to move in the direction opposite the plane's normal direction (forward).

In that scenario (and assuming a lack of friction), what would happen to the plane?

Buehler445 08-25-2009 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 6000799)
If the wheels are locked and the treadmill moves, the wheels most certainly do matter. Because the plane will move in the direction the treadmill is moving, regardless of any other motive force.
WTF would you try to take off the plane with the brakes on? If you did, you'd likely just cause damage to the plane.

Donger 08-25-2009 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 6000837)
WTF would you try to take off the plane with the brakes on? If you did, you'd likely just cause damage to the plane.
LMAO

Brock 08-25-2009 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 6000805)
Look at it this way:

A plane is sitting on a treadmill

The wheels are free to spin.

The plane's propeller is not moving (so it has no forward thrust).

The treadmill begins to move in the direction opposite the plane's normal direction (forward).

In that scenario (and assuming a lack of friction), what would happen to the plane?
Nothing.

Buehler445 08-25-2009 05:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Donger (Post 6000805)
Look at it this way:

A plane is sitting on a treadmill

The wheels are free to spin.

The plane's propeller is not moving (so it has no forward thrust).

The treadmill begins to move in the direction opposite the plane's normal direction (forward).

In that scenario (and assuming a lack of friction), what would happen to the plane?
That's not the question. The question was would a plane take off on a treadmill, and the answer is yes.

Donger 08-25-2009 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6000845)
Nothing.
Correct. Now, same scenario, but the treadmill is moving in the other direction (forward).

What happens to the plane?


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