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007 07-23-2021 07:55 AM

The Cleveland Guardians?
 
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/clev...guardians.html

The Major League Baseball team in Cleveland is changing its name to Guardians, the franchise announced Friday, dropping the controversial "Indians," by which it had been known for more than a century.

ptlyon 07-23-2021 07:57 AM

That's offensive

smithandrew051 07-23-2021 07:58 AM

Pretty lame new name

The Franchise 07-23-2021 07:59 AM

I dig it

Pablo 07-23-2021 08:00 AM

Cleveland Baseball Team has a better ring to it.

Deberg_1990 07-23-2021 08:01 AM

The Kansas City Football Club coming soon

ptlyon 07-23-2021 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 15751665)
Cleveland Baseball Team has a better thing to it.

Maybe the Cleveland Thing?

Dayze 07-23-2021 08:03 AM

tones of toxic masculinity.

...need to change the name..

louie aguiar 07-23-2021 08:04 AM

I don't like it. FWIW, I think Washington Football Team should just keep that name and not try to add a mascot.

Pablo 07-23-2021 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 15751670)
Maybe the Cleveland Thing?

I like it better. LMAO

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-23-2021 08:07 AM

Now every time I watch a Cleveland baseball game I'm going to be reminded of that stooge TheGuardian.

ChiefsCountry 07-23-2021 08:12 AM

Should have went with Cleveland Spiders.

Hammock Parties 07-23-2021 08:18 AM

nobody cares about cleveland sports anyway

smithandrew051 07-23-2021 08:21 AM

The Cleveland Rocks would’ve been funny

ptlyon 07-23-2021 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15751690)
The Cleveland Rocks would’ve been funny

This is what it should've been

smithandrew051 07-23-2021 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 15751692)
This is what it should've been

Could’ve been an awesomely bad name…would’ve fit that city perfectly. They blew it.

tyecopeland 07-23-2021 08:26 AM

Of the galaxy?

lcarus 07-23-2021 08:28 AM

As someone with a deep Guardian heritage, I find this offensive.

cabletech94 07-23-2021 08:29 AM

Who is the ad wizard that came up with this idea?

/Seinfeld, snl circa 90s.

tredadda 07-23-2021 08:29 AM

I guess it was bound to happen. Long overdue.

RedinTexas 07-23-2021 08:33 AM

They should now make a raccoon with a gun their mascot.

ptlyon 07-23-2021 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 15751706)
I guess it was bound to happen. Long overdue.

GFY

Spott 07-23-2021 08:36 AM

It’s pretty meh, just like the rest of Ohio.

Kman34 07-23-2021 08:43 AM

So the Steamers didn’t make the cut???

tredadda 07-23-2021 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 15751712)
GFY

ROFL Must have hit a sore spot with you.

alpha_omega 07-23-2021 08:47 AM

Yuck.

Prison Bitch 07-23-2021 09:01 AM

Sad watching Middle America continue to be eviscerated by The Left.

Mecca 07-23-2021 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 15751679)
Now every time I watch a Cleveland baseball game I'm going to be reminded of that stooge TheGuardian.

Baseball is very metaphysical.

wazu 07-23-2021 09:08 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This baseball look’s like a knockoff tranformer you got for Christmas the year your dad lost his job <a href="https://t.co/mMO5vO1Pu5">pic.twitter.com/mMO5vO1Pu5</a></p>&mdash; PFTCommenter (@PFTCommenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFTCommenter/status/1418579210868822018?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 23, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Mecca 07-23-2021 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15751748)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This baseball look’s like a knockoff tranformer you got for Christmas the year your dad lost his job <a href="https://t.co/mMO5vO1Pu5">pic.twitter.com/mMO5vO1Pu5</a></p>&mdash; PFTCommenter (@PFTCommenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFTCommenter/status/1418579210868822018?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 23, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Dad I wanted optimus prime, shutup boy this here is gspot ball, learn how to find it.

stevieray 07-23-2021 09:10 AM

whew!

Thank goodness.

So many people can feel better about themselves now!

lcarus 07-23-2021 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15751690)
The Cleveland Rocks would’ve been funny

Cleveland Rocks or Cleveland Steamers. Either would've been better than the shitty generic redesign using "The Guardians". Worst logo and uniform in baseball now.

baitism 07-23-2021 09:11 AM

Not a single Native American gave a shit. White leftists all deserve the gallows.

morphius 07-23-2021 09:23 AM

Would have been more fun if they would have kept the name and changed but gave it an India vibe, they have plenty of wicked looking Gods to choose from I believe.

morphius 07-23-2021 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baitism (Post 15751755)
Not a single Native American gave a shit. White leftists all deserve the gallows.

There were a handful of them that are trying to destroy any legacy usage not linked with casinos I think...

ChiefRocka 07-23-2021 09:25 AM

Steamers

ptlyon 07-23-2021 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morphius (Post 15751774)
Would have been more fun if they would have kept the name and changed but gave it an India vibe, they have plenty of wicked looking Gods to choose from I believe.

I think they wanted to do that, but the team refused wearing dots on their foreheads.

ChiefRocka 07-23-2021 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 15751724)
So the Steamers didn’t make the cut???

Damnit

Braincase 07-23-2021 09:26 AM

Better than the old racist name and mascot. Racists might disagree.

BigBeauford 07-23-2021 09:28 AM

That name is some uninspired A ball shite.

stevieray 07-23-2021 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 15751782)
Better than the old racist name and mascot. Racists might disagree.

^false narratives^

DJJasonp 07-23-2021 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morphius (Post 15751776)
There were a handful of them that are trying to destroy any legacy usage not linked with casinos I think...

Cleveland Casinos......logo could have been JACKPOT - JACKPOT - JACKPOT from a slot machine

DaFace 07-23-2021 09:29 AM

I hope they have Rocket Raccoon as their new mascot.

Mecca 07-23-2021 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baitism (Post 15751755)
Not a single Native American gave a shit. White leftists all deserve the gallows.

Not sure I would go that far considering a pitcher on the Cardinals had a ****in meltdown about the Braves during their playoff series.

dirk digler 07-23-2021 09:31 AM

That is a dumb name

ThaVirus 07-23-2021 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morphius (Post 15751774)
Would have been more fun if they would have kept the name and changed but gave it an India vibe, they have plenty of wicked looking Gods to choose from I believe.

There are still over a billion people worldwide who practice Hinduism. It's just best not to use their actual gods as mascots/logos.

MMXcalibur 07-23-2021 09:43 AM

Guardians sounds generic and forgettable.
That logo....yeesh.

KCUnited 07-23-2021 09:44 AM

I guess the Cleveland Oh Shit The River's On Fire Again doesn't really roll off the tongue

L.A. Chieffan 07-23-2021 09:45 AM

So, Chiefs is gonna be gone soon right?

Bowser 07-23-2021 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 15751812)
So, Chiefs is gonna be gone soon right?

Probably inevitable at this point

Chiefaholic 07-23-2021 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 15751782)
Better than the old racist name and mascot. Racists might disagree.

Not sure if trolling or not.... :hmmm:

However if you disagree with my OPINION, then feel free to refer to yourself as one of the multiple "ist" that's popular when in a public debate.

stevieray 07-23-2021 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 15751821)
Probably inevitable at this point

Kansas City Gehas

But hey, you can sleep at night with a clear conscience.

Always look on the bright side of BS.

mr. tegu 07-23-2021 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 15751821)
Probably inevitable at this point


It’s best if we eliminate as much Native American imagery as possible you know.

Deberg_1990 07-23-2021 09:59 AM

I will agree the mascot/image of Chief Wahoo was insensitive and racist. Not sure about the name “Indians” though….

morphius 07-23-2021 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 15751801)
There are still over a billion people worldwide who practice Hinduism. It's just best not to use their actual gods as mascots/logos.

Oh, you are no fun. I just wanted to see what their reaction would be, they might think it is pretty cool. I've driven past their temples, they don't seem to have an issue with displaying their gods. Karna has a pretty unique lightning bow thing that could work as a logo. "no, no, that isn't a native american bow, that is an India indian god bow".

morphius 07-23-2021 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 15751812)
So, Chiefs is gonna be gone soon right?

I still think, if they wanted to, they could get ahead of it by utilizing Chiefs from different cultures. Most civilizations had a Chief you could choose from, and we use the name in our military as well, so we could even have some of them. We have chosen to be more inclusive and celebrate Chiefs from around the world...

ptlyon 07-23-2021 10:18 AM

And if they wanted to, they could just say "Because **** you. That's why."

Wisconsin_Chief 07-23-2021 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morphius (Post 15751856)
I still think, if they wanted to, they could get ahead of it by utilizing Chiefs from different cultures. Most civilizations had a Chief you could choose from, and we use the name in our military as well, so we could even have some of them. We have chosen to be more inclusive and celebrate Chiefs from around the world...

Yep, if you ever see the mob come after Hunt and this organization to the point where they have no choice, they will just rebrand rather than rename. The term 'Chief' is not trademarked by Native Americans last time I checked.

A military style uniform would be pretty badass now that you mention it, and also rub it in the face of the mob who forced the change. Perfect solution.

I still don't think it'll be an issue though. The Chiefs and Braves both really have solid ground to stand on, there's nothing offensive about their brands and anything that was, they've already eliminated.

gblowfish 07-23-2021 10:30 AM

Spiders, Rocks, Steamers, Clinics ALL would have been better. I hate this PC crap.

Frazod 07-23-2021 10:30 AM

Guardians? What the **** are they guarding? :spock:

Obviously I never gave it much thought, or gave a shit, but it seems like Cleveland Rockers would have been a better choice. The logo could have been a baseball with a guitar neck coming out of it, or a guitar with baseball stitching on it. Direct tie in to a local tourist draw. Mascot could have been somebody playing a guitar. Wouldn't have offended anybody. Hell, many locals might have even embraced it.

Probably makes too much sense for the woke crowd, though.

Mecca 07-23-2021 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15751888)
Guardians? What the **** are they guarding? :spock:

Obviously I never gave it much thought, or gave a shit, but it seems like Cleveland Rockers would have been a better choice. The logo could have been a baseball with a guitar neck coming out of it, or a guitar with baseball stitching on it. Direct tie in to a local tourist draw. Mascot could have been somebody playing a guitar. Wouldn't have offended anybody. Hell, many locals might have even embraced it.

Probably makes too much sense for the woke crowd, though.

Rocker, are Shawn and Marty the mascots?

TEX 07-23-2021 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 15751887)
Spiders, Rocks, Steamers, Clinics ALL would have been better. I hate this PC crap.

Yep. It's so ****ing stupid.

Bowser 07-23-2021 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15751913)
Rocker, are Shawn and Marty the mascots?

A couple of buff white dudes? In this environment?

https://media.tenor.com/images/4cf4a...baea/tenor.gif

Frazod 07-23-2021 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15751913)
Rocker, are Shawn and Marty the mascots?

I assume this guy is available. :D

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/wp-cont...cker.jpg?w=420

old_geezer 07-23-2021 10:47 AM

I think the "Cleveland Karens" would be perfect.

vailpass 07-23-2021 10:48 AM

Just a bit outside.

gblowfish 07-23-2021 10:50 AM

I saw on the news this AM they chose Guardians as the name because an old bridge in Cleveland have statues built into them that are called "The Guardians." OK, but still, there would have been a dozen better names. The Rocks or Rockers would have been great.

Deberg_1990 07-23-2021 10:51 AM

They paid Tom Hanks to help ‘sell’ it.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Together, we are all... <a href="https://t.co/R5FnT4kv1I">pic.twitter.com/R5FnT4kv1I</a></p>&mdash; Cleveland Indians (@Indians) <a href="https://twitter.com/Indians/status/1418565355472101378?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

gblowfish 07-23-2021 10:52 AM

Charlie Sheen in the Wild Thing uni would have been better...

BWillie 07-23-2021 10:53 AM

I don't understand how bad the names of some of the new teams are.

Las Vegas Golden Knights
Cleveland Guardians
Almost every team in MLS

The Kraken is actually a cool name for Seattle, but that is it.

bdj23 07-23-2021 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15751793)
Not sure I would go that far considering a pitcher on the Cardinals had a ****in meltdown about the Braves during their playoff series.

Nobody gave a shit about what some 1/16th Cherokee larper thought.

Minus twitter

Rainbarrel 07-23-2021 11:05 AM

It all started going down hill when they allowed Sunday liquor sales.

mililo4cpa 07-23-2021 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15751750)
Dad I wanted optimus prime, shutup boy this here is gspot ball, learn how to find it.

Looks like a logo that of some single A ball club from Muskegon, Michigan

RealSNR 07-23-2021 11:09 AM

**** it. Cleveland Ermines. That's what I'm gonna call them. You're all welcome to join me

Frazod 07-23-2021 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15751931)
They paid Tom Hanks to help ‘sell’ it.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Together, we are all... <a href="https://t.co/R5FnT4kv1I">pic.twitter.com/R5FnT4kv1I</a></p>&mdash; Cleveland Indians (@Indians) <a href="https://twitter.com/Indians/status/1418565355472101378?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That video should come with hip waders.

srvy 07-23-2021 11:53 AM

Well they dropped the In and kept the dians. Brilliant Cleveland bravo.

Gary Cooper 07-23-2021 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMXcalibur (Post 15751809)
Guardians sounds generic and forgettable.
That logo....yeesh.

Logo looks like an 80's rock album cover.

Indian Chief 07-23-2021 12:10 PM

As probably the only Indians fan here, I'm not in love with the change. Guardians does have a lot of connection with the city so it was, in my mind, always the most likely change. I probably would have enjoyed the Cleveland Rocks more. I can live with Guardians, but the font and logo and absolute garbage. As Judas mentioned, it looks like an 80s rock album. I don't know who they used for a focus group, but I've seen dozens of better logo designs and fonts using the Guardians.

ThaVirus 07-23-2021 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morphius (Post 15751839)
Oh, you are no fun. I just wanted to see what their reaction would be, they might think it is pretty cool. I've driven past their temples, they don't seem to have an issue with displaying their gods. Karna has a pretty unique lightning bow thing that could work as a logo. "no, no, that isn't a native american bow, that is an India indian god bow".

No doubt, they have some pretty cool iconography. I just.. eh. Sports team mascots turn into caricatures pretty quickly. It's best not to involve figures from religions that are actively being practiced since they can easily be seen as making a mockery of something pretty serious to a lot of people.

As a loose example, I don't think the anti-woke Christian crowd here in America would love it if they found out a soccer team in Vietnam went by the name of the Water Walkers and Jesus was their mascot. At the games, people would show up with bloody crowns of thorns and fake nails in their hands and feet.

Otter 07-23-2021 12:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 15751672)
I don't like it. FWIW, I think Washington Football Team should just keep that name and not try to add a mascot.

Mascot could be a bipolar, lesbian that goes 50/50 on depression and anger for the game length with no personality other than to bitch and whine about how there's only men on the field.


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