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Ultra Peanut 01-04-2013 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 9282043)
Oregon has already said that they will promote their offensive coordinator to HC if Chip really leaves.

I doubt Petersen ever leaves Boise at this point.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO

O.city 01-04-2013 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9282067)
I could see that. A lot of danger in giving him that much control over personnel, which is what he wants. I still have a feeling that Kelly, unlike Pioli, will actually adapt his game whereas Pioli's problem was that he tried to force-fit the only thing he knew.

Thatst he problem tho, what else does Kelly know?

htismaqe 01-04-2013 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9282041)
Maybe. If he has a great D the pressure is really put on the other team.

Interesting hire, I'll enjoy watching to see how he pans out.

The thing is, at the end of the day, Chip Kelly relies on a MASSIVE talent gap.

Look at what they did against a near-NFL defense in Stanford.

That talent gap, particularly the speed gap, just isn't going to exist in the NFL.

htismaqe 01-04-2013 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9282076)
Thatst he problem tho, what else does Kelly know?

Right.

O.city 01-04-2013 06:04 PM

The thing with his innovation is, things in the NFL get figured out pretty quick. It's why the wildcat flamed, etc.


It will eventually get figured out, he's just gonna have to always stay a step ahead. Which seemed, IMO, to be a problem for him at Oregon in that whenever his teams were physically handled, they struggled.

htismaqe 01-04-2013 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9282063)
Great hire for the Brownies. It's the pick you make when you gamble -- they chose not to play it safe, and it could pay some huge dividends for them. Worst case scenario, the experiment doesn't work and 3 years from now, you have a team that's fast and ready for the spread but needs a scheme adjustment.

What?

Worst case scenario is the experiment doesn't work, they've sold out to build for the spread, and have to completely gut the thing so that it resembles an NFL team again.

They're taking a HUGE risk.

GoChargers 01-04-2013 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut (Post 9282075)
BOOOOOOOOOOOOO

FWIW, Petersen is a bad fit for Oregon. His offense is a very complex pro-style system with Pistol and Wildcat elements, heavily predicated on varied formations and pre-snap shifts. It's not really similar to Chip's system.

O.city 01-04-2013 06:09 PM

Kelly is an extremely intriguing hire and I do like the Browns taking a chance. But I'm not sure it's a smart chance.

Reaper16 01-04-2013 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9282082)

Look at what they did against a near-NFL defense in Stanford.

Beat Stanford by 23 points in 2011? Beat Stanford by 21 points in 2010?

Reaper16 01-04-2013 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9282088)
The thing with his innovation is, things in the NFL get figured out pretty quick.

New England Patriots team offense:

2012: #1, 427.9 ypg
2011: #2, 428.0 ypg
2010: #8, 363.8 ypg
2009: #3, 397.3 ypg

Seems like the Patriots are generally improving as they continue to play an uptempo spread offense, instead of getting figured out.

O.city 01-04-2013 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9282133)
New England Patriots team offense:

2012: #1, 427.9 ypg
2011: #2, 428.0 ypg
2010: #8, 363.8 ypg
2009: #3, 397.3 ypg

Seems like the Patriots are generally improving as they continue to play an uptempo spread offense, instead of getting figured out.

Ok after four years, we've discussed this. Unless Brady moves to Cleveland, i'm not too worried.


The Pats use some spread concepts, but they are far from a complete spread team.

BIG_DADDY 01-04-2013 06:19 PM

This really sucks. Hoping he would come back for national championship

chiefzilla1501 01-04-2013 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9282076)
Thatst he problem tho, what else does Kelly know?

The league is moving to a more spread-oriented approach and teams are incorporating a ton of no-huddle, because it keeps defenses from switching personnel. Kelly's system can absolutely work. The question is if he will tweak the spread to fit the NFL.

Keep in mind that Kelly took somebody else's spread and came up with his own innovative twists, just like Monte Kiffin took the Tampa 2 and adapted it to fit the changing NFL. Interviews I've heard with Kelly indicate that he knows it could be a trendy defense and you have to adapt the scheme to the situation. From what I've heard, the guy is incredibly bright and learns very quickly, not like a copycat spread guy.

The offensive coordinator hire is going to be a big one. If he hires someone with NFL experience, that would help immensely in adapting his game. It's a risky hire, but I happen to think he's a smart guy who's going to find a really creative way to make his scheme fit the NFL.

mcaj22 01-04-2013 06:21 PM

the Pats system is not fully spread

The Chiefs tried for 4 years to use a similar system with the same audibles and checks and failed miserably.

Most notably giving the QB the freedom to audible into a QB sneak or whatever they need to check down to in short yardage situations.

Tom Brady does not fail at that, our team did. Same concept though lol

htismaqe 01-04-2013 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9282115)
Beat Stanford by 23 points in 2011? Beat Stanford by 21 points in 2010?

Stanford's defense this year is better.


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