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Mother****erJones 01-02-2013 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9267351)
Who gives a **** about his demeanor...he wins. And he does it with offense.

He's Mike Shanahan with a mustache and 200 lbs added...

YES! 3 losing seasons out of 14. Plus they tried to be the Heat. That doesnt work. Thats why they were losing. Ill take andy reid who can win playoff games and get to a super bowl.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9267398)

ROFL I love that gif.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-02-2013 09:33 AM

Sam Mellinger ‏@mellinger

I'm not reading too much into Pioli going to Atlanta. He and Dimitroff are old buddies. Now, if he's in Philly...

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9267412)
Well to be fair, the reports were that Heckert wouldn't follow him to ARIZONA, IIRC.

Maybe Heckert said "anywhere but Phoenix"?

Ohhh....

Didn't notice that.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9267400)
LMAO

The gif never gets old. Hilarious every time.

Right?

Mother****erJones 01-02-2013 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9267371)
Jason Cole ‏@JasonColeYahoo

Educated guess here based on talks with many: If Reid gets KC job, Pioli power diminishes or fired. Also, think Reid is using AZ as leverage

Using AZ as leverage or maybe KC is leverage for AZ job

Rasputin 01-02-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9267417)
When it says that Ferentz is meeting with the Chiefs today, that could mean that he and Scott are getting together for dinner tonight where they're going to try and figure out where it all went so wrong for both of them...and maybe Ferentz is in town to offer Iowa's AD position to Pioli. :)

I've been wanting to say this about Ricky Stanzi. On the count that Pioli has wanted Ferentz from Iowa I think that was the notion for him to draft Ricky Stanzi. Had nothing to do with with if Stanzi would be good or not but he his love afair with that coach got him to draft Stanzi.

ChiefMojo 01-02-2013 09:37 AM

True could be either way but the media may be saying now Zona is the leverage.

the Talking Can 01-02-2013 09:38 AM

Heckert's draft in cleveland

<PRE>

Year Rnd Pick Pos To College/Univ
2012 1 3 Trent Richardson RB 2012 Alabama
2012 1 22 Brandon Weeden QB 2012 Oklahoma St.
2012 2 37 Mitchell Schwartz T 2012 California
2012 3 87 John Hughes DT 2012 Cincinnati
2012 4 100 Travis Benjamin WR 2012 Miami (FL)
2012 4 120 James-Michael Johnson ILB 2012
2012 5 160 Ryan Miller G 2012 Colorado
2012 6 204 Emmanuel Acho OLB 2012 Texas
2012 6 205 Billy Winn DT 2012 Boise St.
2012 7 245 Trevin Wade CB 2012 Arizona
2012 7 247 Brad Smelley TE 2012 Alabama

Year Rnd Pick Pos To College/Univ
2011 1 21 Phil Taylor DL 2012 Baylor
2011 2 37 Jabaal Sheard DL 2012 Pittsburgh
2011 2 59 Greg Little WR 2012 North Carolina
2011 4 102 Jordan Cameron TE 2012 USC
2011 4 124 Owen Marecic RB 2012 Stanford
2011 5 137 Buster Skrine DB 2012 Tenn-Chattanooga
2011 5 150 Jason Pinkston OL 2012 Pittsburgh
2011 7 248 Eric Hagg DB 2012 Nebraska

Year Rnd Pick Pos To College/Univ
2010 1 7 Joe Haden DB 2012 Florida
2010 2 38 T.J. Ward DB 2012 Oregon
2010 2 59 Montario Hardesty RB 2012 Tennessee
2010 3 85 Colt McCoy QB 2012 Texas
2010 3 92 Shawn Lauvao G 2012 Arizona St.
2010 5 160 Larry Asante DB 2011 Nebraska
2010 6 177 Carlton Mitchell WR 2011 South Florida
2010 6 186 Clifton Geathers DE 2010 South Carolina</PRE>

notorious 01-02-2013 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9267447)
True could be either way but the media may be saying now Zona is the leverage.

They don't have a ****ing clue what is going on.

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9267368)
maybe, but it would seem like neither party would actually want to waste their time....whatever, i feel pretty confident that Reid wants nothing to do with pioli

Never a waste of time for an unproven candidate to get interview experience.

Jayhawk Chief 01-02-2013 09:38 AM

Pioli with Hunt for Atlanta interviews. Not sure if Pioli will be with Hunt to interview Reid in Philly...per Chris Mortensen.

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9267449)
Heckert's draft in cleveland

<PRE>

Year Rnd Pick Pos To College/Univ
2012 1 3 Trent Richardson RB 2012 Alabama
2012 1 22 Brandon Weeden QB 2012 Oklahoma St.
2012 2 37 Mitchell Schwartz T 2012 California
2012 3 87 John Hughes DT 2012 Cincinnati
2012 4 100 Travis Benjamin WR 2012 Miami (FL)
2012 4 120 James-Michael Johnson ILB 2012
2012 5 160 Ryan Miller G 2012 Colorado
2012 6 204 Emmanuel Acho OLB 2012 Texas
2012 6 205 Billy Winn DT 2012 Boise St.
2012 7 245 Trevin Wade CB 2012 Arizona
2012 7 247 Brad Smelley TE 2012 Alabama

Year Rnd Pick Pos To College/Univ
2011 1 21 Phil Taylor DL 2012 Baylor
2011 2 37 Jabaal Sheard DL 2012 Pittsburgh
2011 2 59 Greg Little WR 2012 North Carolina
2011 4 102 Jordan Cameron TE 2012 USC
2011 4 124 Owen Marecic RB 2012 Stanford
2011 5 137 Buster Skrine DB 2012 Tenn-Chattanooga
2011 5 150 Jason Pinkston OL 2012 Pittsburgh
2011 7 248 Eric Hagg DB 2012 Nebraska

Year Rnd Pick Pos To College/Univ
2010 1 7 Joe Haden DB 2012 Florida
2010 2 38 T.J. Ward DB 2012 Oregon
2010 2 59 Montario Hardesty RB 2012 Tennessee
2010 3 85 Colt McCoy QB 2012 Texas
2010 3 92 Shawn Lauvao G 2012 Arizona St.
2010 5 160 Larry Asante DB 2011 Nebraska
2010 6 177 Carlton Mitchell WR 2011 South Florida
2010 6 186 Clifton Geathers DE 2010 South Carolina</PRE>

Well, at least he hit on his two high 1st rounders.

Other than that, TJ Ward and hot garbage.

Icon 01-02-2013 09:41 AM

If Reid comes to KC I'm not sure I want him involved in the draft. According to the following report he sucked at evaluating college talent:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-roseman-reid/

Now that the dust has settled on a dizzying day of terminations and quotes and rumors and reports, it’s time to search through the wreckage of quotes to look for hints at what may have happened in the past — and what could happen next.

In Philadelphia, comments from owner Jeffrey Lurie suggest that the termination of coach Andy Reid was preceded by a determination that G.M. Howie Roseman would or should have more authority over the construction of the roster.

Officially, Reid has had “final say” since the day he was hired, in 1999. Unofficially, Roseman acquired more influence in 2012, based on Lurie’s explanation regarding the manner in which Roseman’s role in a 1-11 collapse over the final three fourths of the season will be assessed.

“I keep voluminous notes on talent evaluation on not just who we draft, but who is valued in each draft by each person that is in the organization that’s working here,” Lurie said. “I came to the conclusion that the person that was providing by far the best talent evaluation in the building was Howie Roseman. I decided to streamline the whole decision-making process for the 2012 draft and offseason and that’s the first draft and offseason I hold Howie completely accountable for. The mistakes that were made in the 2011 draft have little or nothing to do with Howie’s evaluations and I think it was important for me to own up to the mistakes that were made and understand where they were coming from and it was awfully clear.”

In other words, Roseman was trying to get Reid to make other decisions in past years, and hindsight was proving Roseman to be right. And so if Roseman is accountable only for the 2012 draft, it means that Reid, was wisely deferring to the guy whom hindsight was proving to be right.

It doesn’t mean that Roseman will now be in charge of the team. “The way I’ve operated is the way I’m going to operate and that is the new head coach, whoever that is, will report directly to me and that’s the only structure that I insist upon,” Lurie said. “As we go through the process, we have the flexibility to finalize personnel decisions and everything else that goes with the coach-G.M. relationship. But my goal is to have the coach and the General Manager work hand-in-hand and work collaboratively and work in a very, very terrific way together.”

In other words, the next coach of the Eagles may not be running the show the way Reid was for 14 years. Or, possibly, for the first 13 of them.

Mother****erJones 01-02-2013 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9267459)
Well, at least he hit on his two high 1st rounders.

Other than that, TJ Ward and hot garbage.

Thats better drafting than Pioli:)


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