Yeah, I just upgraded my light for one of my assualt shotguns. I hung a bright HID light on it...WOW.

Upgrade complete...... for now. :rockon:

New components include the quad, both grips, and a cheesy red laser that I added for shits and giggles. It blocks the sight a bit, but I've been wanting to get a riser for that anyway, so now I have an excuse. I love the feel of the rifle now that I have the grips installed. Makes a big difference. And it was amazingly easy to remove the old quad once I had the right tool.

Might get a new stock at some point, too. Why not? :D

Nice job. It looks kickass.

Hope you love your H&K as much as I love mine. :thumb:

Thanks. I'm still tinkering - I mounted the laser on the side so I can activate it with my thumb now without removing my left hand from the forward grip - with the trigger I can activate the laser and the light at the same time. Also no longer interferes with the optical sight. I think that's about all I can do for now, but I'm pretty happy with the results.

And yes, I love the HK. :thumb:

EDIT - here's a pic the new configuration.

That's really ****ing cool Fraz...

Okay, so I stopped by a local gun shop this afternoon to see what they had and this Sig caught my eye - http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProdu...rol-rifle.aspx . They had it for $1157 and said there's a little play in that price if I can pay cash...so I'm guessing $1100, probably. Any of you have experience with Sigs? I really liked the look of it and it already has the quad rail. Thoughts? Is it worth that?

They also had a kit for a Rock River Arms AR15 for $789 where you get to choose out of 3 uppers, a couple different stocks.

I have the Sig 556 Classic SWAT (longer quad than the Patrol one) - it's a freaking dream, man.

Here's a video of me shooting an Xbox game with it, lol:

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Ive read nothing but good reviews on RRAs There customer service is supposed to be excellent.

for $1100.00 you can get a top of the line Colt

Flew back from the gun show at T-Town last night. Here are some thoughts:


Why does anyone buy a gun there? Their prices are down-right robbery, and most of the exhibitors aren't in the dealing mood. The only rational price I found there was a Sig 522 22L (I know, I know) for $450. The Desert Scout Recons I found were overpriced about $1200 and the barrels overpriced around 500-800. Ridiculous.


Now on to the fun factor. It was great! I got to handle a MP40 (German 9mm Machine Gun from WW2), a BAR, Buffalo Bill's rifle, saw a .308 minigun, an ORIGINAL GI night scope with power supply, and at least one hundred Garands.

They had enough AK-47 crap there to supply the Taliban, but hardly anyone carried Saiga .308 gear :(. I could only find a couple of used POSP scopes, which were priced as new.

There were 11tybillion AK and AR-15 tables, a ton of .50 BMG tables. The Armalite rep was awesome and very informative.

I will own a Desert Scout Recon with .338 and .308 barrels eventually, but it's looks like I will need to be a little more patient.

It was worth the jet fuel down and back even if I walked away empty handed. Internet and local dealers still own the gun market, and always will.

I've never bought a gun at a show for many of the reason you stress.I don't get it either but I do like to go and just look around.

The last time I was down there I thought stuff was a bit pricey. Several years back before the prices for ammo skyrocketed a couple of buddies and I loaded up on ammo for everything we shoot as we found an ammo dealer that would deal if you bought anything in volume. It is a good show IMO for the collector looking for something hard to find. All kinds of stuff turns up down there that you may have trouble finding elsewhere if you have the time to look.

That's still robbery. Those can easily be had for $375.

Where? :D


It looks like a lot of fun.

budsgunshop.com

cdnninvestments.com

They are fun, I enjoy mine quite a bit. I bought mine from Pants for $340. He got it free with his Sig.

Thanks!

I like this

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id=62287

Just got done shooting about 300 rounds today. It was perfect!


I managed a 2 1/2"-3" groups with my Saiga .308 and open sights from 100 yards.


1911 S &W shooting still needs work. 25 yards and I can only hit about 75% of our 9x9" targets.


The best part: Prairie Dog Field with .......... an AR 15 .223 with 24" barrel, Leupold 20x scope and a shitload of ammo.

It was one of the best hunts I have had. These dogs had balls, as soon as my dad or I dropped a couple they would all pop right back up. 200-300 yards of pure mammal explosions. I giggled like a little schoolgirl for 2 hours straight.

:D :D :D :D :D :D

Awesome. lil P-doggy's are a lot of fun. Its been years since I have got to murder a dog town.

Your Avatar sums it up.


:D


There is nothing like blood lust, even if it is a glorified rat that is getting liquified.

Got my grip pod today, here are a couple of pics:

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/8971/grip1.jpg

http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/6862/grip2.jpg

Very nice. I was tempted by that, but in the end decided I'd rather have the grip with the light control.

Yeah, I was thinking really about that combo too, but I'm just going to have to splurge on a standalone, side-mount light eventually (not for a while though). Why does everything gun-related have to be so freaking expensive?

I wish I knew....guess because they can. I was amazed at how much a simple bi-pod for my AR could be. I ended up going the cheap route, but could see a grip pod in my future.

I got the scope mounted on my 522, along with 1,500 rounds and a 50-Round drum mag. Now I need to find time to shoot. Sorry for the crappy cell phone pic.

That's your Sig, right? I'm really tempted to get that swat patrol model I saw, but I'm probably going to go the cheaper route for my first real gun. I've almost settled myself on that Rock River Arms kit I mentioned earlier in the thread - $789 to start, and then I'll spend a bit to trick it out.

When I was doing my research, I was steered away from RRA. You might as well get the CMMG M4 for $850 - but they're so popular, you have to be kind of lucky to catch it in stock, so you just have to keep checking. This Sig is my 1st gun and I'm extremely happy with it. I still need to invest about $1000 more into it before I consider it done... but I'm in no rush. The grip pod was my main thing, just because it's so much easier to be accurate with that grip.

P.S. Also, if you get the Sig, I'd advise to go ahead and get a couple Magpul mags because the stock one is crappy as hell (that's the one I have in the picture, but the replacements are in the mail).

Yeah, the mag that they had with it felt really cheap. So, what was it with RRA that steered you away?

Nothing specific, they just don't seem to be very popular with the 'experts' on the gun forums, as I didn't really know much about guns, I was just reading a bunch of old posts on the forums that came up in my searches. The RRA M4 was my immediate first choice (but I think the one I was going to get was like $1050) just because they looked so nice on their website.

This will probably be my next upgrade, although I'll wait and justify it as a birthday present to myself.

Question for the AR braintrust on this:

Magpul offers these stocks in "mil-spec" or "commercial-spec" - how do I know which one to get? I have a DPMS Panther Oracle. I've checked the manual, DPMS's website and the rifle itself and haven't been able to find anything that indicates what it is one way or another.

EDIT - I figured it out.

Okay, here it is...just brought it home today. Sig Sauer 'Short' Swat

She is sweet, man, you will not be disappointed. I got my Magpul PMAG 30's today (the ones that show you the ammo level), probably going to go shooting with my new grip pod and the new mags next weekend.

3 Sigs on one page... interesting.

Any certain favorite ammo you use with your Sig? From a price POV, this looks good - http://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_s...oduct1185.html - and the reviews seem good.

I've only shot 300 rounds through mine and I have 200 left. I bought 500 rounds of Brown Bear because I didn't know that lacquered steel is not the best thing ever for your gun.

I am itching to get a SIG 556 now.

Thanks guys.

Just a reminder - as April 15th approaches, Buy A Gun Day is upon us once again. I'm thinking of a small frame Glock like the 19 or the GAP 45 version, the Glock 38.

Oh my.


http://gastatic.com/UserImages/3507/...wm_2121046.jpg

Sweet!

God, $1900 plus a lot for a scope to do it justice.


Maybe it will be a decent bridge to my future Recon Scout.


My dad thinks I should go AR, but a Sig DMR is about the same price as a gas-piston AR, but a LOT cooler.

Anyone have experience with red dot or holographic sites? I've determined my first two accessories will be a pod grip and optics of some sort. The EOTech holographic sites, while nice, are too pricey for my tastes right now. The shop where I bought my gun had one for $100 that I liked...I think the brand was TruGlo? Does anyone know if those are any good?

So all of the cheaper ammo I'm seeing is 55gr. Is that okay for a 16" 1x7 twist barrel, or should I get the 62gr?

Thinking of purchasing another handgun.

Is the .45 ACP the best stopping power cartridge trade-off of power vs. size of weapon?

Should I get a M1911A2 or what? If 45 ACP is the best, what handgun would you buy?
thanks

What's your budget?

yo should I buy a 522?

Personally, I don't see the point of getting an assault rifle that's little more than a glorified BB gun. I guess it would be okay as a varmint gun or a fun/economical plinker, but not something I'd reach for if somebody else with a gun was shooting at me.

Almost everything I've read about the .45ACP says it has the highest first shot stop percentage among handgun calibers.The 185-200-230 gr projectile is heavy,slow moving,and expands quickly making it a perfect self/home defense caliber.The most important factor to me is 7-8 rounds of .45 vs 10-17-19 rounds of 9mm that is standard.To be honest I'm very comfortable with 8 rounds of .45,as if it is well placed it should only take one.

As far as the 1911 goes,that is my favorite hand gun of all time,but it is a lot of gun and a high end model is not cheap.It also depends on what you intend to do with it,carry it,home defense etc..I don't attempt to conceal any of my 1911's,they're simply too big,but the 3,and 4 inch models are quite easier to hide.

IMO the which one is best question is an all day discussion.I prefer american made guns(Ruger S&W) but Sig makes a really nice .45 (P220) in several models but they don't come cheap.My S&W M&P 45 and Ruger P90 are my 2 favorite non 1911 .45's that I own.I suggest that you go to a range and spend a few weeks shooting every .45 you get your hands on before even thinking about buying one.
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I'd say Bane covered the .45acp pretty well. I'd just add that you might stay away from 3" models until you get used to the caliber. 3" barrels are louder, kick a bit more and can jam (FTF/FTE) if you don't have a firm grip.

The 1911 is my favorite also. I've seen/owned AMT Hardballers for less than $400 and had Kimbers for over $1000. There's also 1911's higher end models for more dough, that I've shot, but have not personally owned.

I also have a Ruger P90 (love it), a Taurus 3" for CCW, and lastly, a Hi-Point. The Hi-Point is cheap ($165) and shoots damn good. However, it weighs as much as a new-born, looks cheap, and the grip sucks. But it gets the job done.

Patterned my shotgun yesterday, started organizing vest. Ready for Monday Morning Turkey madness.

Gobble gobble........boom...flop flop

The old P90 is a lot of .45 for the $$$ but she sure has a fat ass!
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I like the 45acp - a lot. I've got a couple of 1911's, and like them as well. They're easy to carry (slim) and modern versions are pretty much trouble free. Got a few other .45 models - a Ruger 345, a Springfield XD (the 'Croatian Creation' and a Glock .45 GAP. For a 'beginner' with the .45 I seriously recommend the Glock. YMMV, but that's what I tell 'em. Easy to shoot, pretty much indestructible. The GAP ammo I shoot is a little different than the .45 ACP, it's a propietary round that Glock invented. A little shorter, a little more expensive but it still puts that lovely .45 hole in stuff - and for many folks it seems to be easier to shoot well. As I said, YMMV, but if you're looking at .45's...look at both of 'em.

I found a new Sig 556 for $975 and a 556 SWAT for $1075.

Or I can purchase an AR 15 with unlimited upper options for much less.


Sig owners, what should I do?

Here's something to consider.

The Sig 556 is a great, awesome gun. Certainly a better weapon than the one I have. I'm not knocking it all.

However, the one thing about a 556 is that you can't upgrade the base components, add and upgrade features, like you can with a regular AR. Obviously there's really not much need to upgrade a $1,500 Sig. But upgrading is fun.

One of my friends has a 556. He loves it. But he sees all his friends that have regular ARs, like me, having a blast going through the upgrading process, researching the next cool thing to switch out, the fun they have the first time they try out the latest modifications, and he's kind of bummed out that he can't do that - so much so, in fact, that he's considering getting a base AR so he can join in the fun.

Just something to consider.

Thanks.

We already have 4 AR's in the family, so maybe I am just trying to be different.

The gas piston return is a big plus, besides being a lot cheaper then a g/p return AR.

Well, in that case, get the Sig!

Damn you. :D

I already knew the answer to my own question. Thanks for the nudge.

It would just be for a fun cheap shooter. Do you have to run minimags through it or can you use shitty federal ammo?
and I hope that no is ever shooting at me but if they did I guess my 9mm would have to do?
also 12ga.

You're welcome. :evil:

This AR experience has been great for me. This time last year, I'd never even fired an assault rifle, nor ever even given serious consideration to picking one up. Then over the summer I shot one for the first time and was hooked. Since then I bought my own and added about $350 worth of upgrades, with another $250 coming this weekend (I'm getting the Magpul UBR stock). I've done a ton of research, and I've also installed everything myself with no outside assistance. That's a great feeling, too, especially for somebody who never really considered himself very mechanically inclined.

I'm starting to run out of stuff to replace, though. Perhaps I'll start assembling a .762 upper.

I don't know anything about the .22s.

It'll run anything you feed it. I've been running federal through mine.

I'm probably going to get one pretty soon I just didn't know anybody that has one
will they let you shoot yours at indoor ranges down there?

Latest mod - Magpul ACS stock. I was ready to get the much more expensive UBR, but the shop I went to had both mounted on other rifles, so I was able to try them both out. I liked the ACS much more, and considering it was $120 less, getting that one was a no brainer.

:thumb:

And from the inexplicable-me department, I just got back from the range (shooting pistols). I was doing okay, but not great. Got down to my last five rounds of .40, and just for a goof I shot them one-handed - and got three bulls and two near misses. After that, I finished off the remaining rounds of 9mm shooting one-handed as well, and shot consistenly better.

:spock:

I'm not really sure how that's possible, other than the fact that as a kid I learned how to shoot one-handed.

I guess I'm just ****ed up, but in this case, I'll happily take it. :D

And finally, from the you-get-what-you-pay-for department, a couple of weeks ago I picked up this tactical light for $21 from Amazon and mounted it on my 9mm.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001BZPJRC

DO NOT BUY THIS PIECE OF CRAP.

Works great, for about five shots - then it flies off the end of the pistol. Consistently.

:cuss:

EDIT: Upon further investigation, I realized that the rail of the P95 is too short for the light to lock completely - that's why it wouldn't stay on. I mounted it on a longer pit rail to see if was still screwed up and it locked completely, and I assume it wouldn't come off while being fired.

Obviously not a good choice for a pistol with a short rail.

Went to my first gun show today. I saw they had some mosin nagants, almost bought one for $99. and they I saw a norico Sks. I bought it and can't wait to fire it. It was $289 black, folding stock, bayonet, 30 rnd and 5 rnd mag. It also came with the original wood stock.

I'd post a picture but I'm on my phone. Anybody have any knowledge on these? I'd like to know if it was a good price, how old it is, etc. I am in love.

All the numbers match as well. They are 1509854...dying to know anything on it.

I have a Mosin Nagant ($110) and I love it.I had to tap the front sight over just a bit with a punch when I first started shooting it but she's dead on now.It shoots so good I'm considering using it next deer season.
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It also says Sks 7.62 china CJA southfield, MI.

I picked up a new shotgun yesterday...Remington 887 w/28" barrel. very light.

Cant wait to take it out and do some sporting clays...

http://www.remington.com/products/fi...nitro-mag.aspx

I haven't actually shot at any range yet, just took it out to my farm. No limits on how much or how fast I can shoot.

Sks owners

I think there is something wrong with mine. The 30 rnd mag seems loose and the 5 or 10 original magazine won't fit. What's the problem? It doesn't have the original wood stock on it.

Afraid I have to take it back.

Any of you Sks owners have issues with cheap magazines?

Im thinking of buying Tapco magazines for it. Other forums say the Sks is picky when it comes to magazines and the Tapco is the best.

My Saiga is the same way. Do a search on google or yahoo "SKS forum" or "AK forum". You will probably get some good feedback.

I wish I could help.

Shot the Sks today. It does need a better magazine. Prob go with the Tapco. I really need to learn how to be more accurate. It sure was awesome emptying the mag as fast ad I could though.

I own a h&k .45, best handgun I have EVER owned.
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Ditto for the H&K .40. :thumb:

Might be my next purchase when I get a wild hair.

They make a really good gun.
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Here you go:

http://www.mississippiautoarms.com/

Call them and tell them exactly what you told us. They will get you connected with what you need.


If you purchased a bunch of cheap 7.62x39mm ammo, a lot of times that stuff doesn't eject for shit.