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Sweet Daddy Hate 08-13-2009 10:07 PM

The Faid is beating Dallas by 10 pts.
 
9 minutes left in the 3rd.

Step it up Chiefs Offense...:cuss:

Buehler445 08-13-2009 10:08 PM

Annnnnnd Defense.

DaneMcCloud 08-13-2009 10:08 PM

Their receivers look pretty damn good, as do their running backs.

JaMarcus was particularly impressive.

Mr. Arrowhead 08-13-2009 10:09 PM

Raiders, the preseason champs

DaFace 08-13-2009 10:09 PM

Preseason.

Mecca 08-13-2009 10:10 PM

Did DHB actually look alright?

Buck 08-13-2009 10:10 PM

The Lions went 4-0 in preseason last year.

DaneMcCloud 08-13-2009 10:11 PM

Yeah, DHB looked good but Chaz Schilens looked bad ass.

I wish the Chiefs had this kid. Second year player from San Diego.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-13-2009 10:13 PM

Hey, tomorrow will be here before you know it.

Just sayin'.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-13-2009 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5971565)
Annnnnnd Defense.

Okay, fine; EVERYBODY step it up!:D

Mecca 08-13-2009 10:15 PM

Did you know in this years Madden game there is only a handful of 99 rated guys...the Raiders have one.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-13-2009 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5971577)
Did you know in this years Madden game there is only a handful of 99 rated guys...the Raiders have one.

The CB?

Mecca 08-13-2009 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5971579)
The CB?

Yea Asomugha is one of the few 99 guys on the game.

BigMeatballDave 08-13-2009 10:24 PM

WTF? Its pre-season. Who gives a shit? Seriously?

DaneMcCloud 08-13-2009 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 5971588)
WTF? Its pre-season. Who gives a shit? Seriously?

I do.

It's called scouting. Watching other players (as well as the Chiefs).

Are you telling me that you didn't have a bad feeling about the 2004 Chiefs when they stunk it up in the preseason on offense? I did. And it took them 8 games to get a win (including preseason).

Don't discount pre-season games. You definitely get an idea of talent and depth.

And if guys can ****ing catch the ball.

KCwolf 08-13-2009 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5971581)
Yea Asomugha is one of the few 99 guys on the game.

Not only a 99 in Madden, and an ALL world CB ..... but just a one of kind guy OFF the field. Completely UN-Raider like.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-13-2009 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5971596)
I do.

It's called scouting. Watching other players (as well as the Chiefs).

Are you telling me that you didn't have a bad feeling about the 2004 Chiefs when they stunk it up in the preseason on offense? I did. And it took them 8 games to get a win (including preseason).

Don't discount pre-season games. You definitely get an idea of talent and depth.

And if guys can ****ing catch the ball.

And it's FOOTBALL for ****'s sake!!!

alanm 08-13-2009 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 5971568)
Preseason.

You can't stress this enough during the month of August every year.
1/2 of the 3rd preseason game may give you a glimmer though.

Buehler445 08-13-2009 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5971596)
I do.

It's called scouting. Watching other players (as well as the Chiefs).

Are you telling me that you didn't have a bad feeling about the 2004 Chiefs when they stunk it up in the preseason on offense? I did. And it took them 8 games to get a win (including preseason).

Don't discount pre-season games. You definitely get an idea of talent and depth.

And if guys can ****ing catch the ball.

Yeah. I'm getting from the re-run of the philly/pats game that Philly's line is umm....bad.

Oh and I hate Squirmin Herman.

Buck 08-13-2009 10:32 PM

Whats your Avvy supposed to be ROR?

DaFace 08-13-2009 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5971596)
I do.

It's called scouting. Watching other players (as well as the Chiefs).

Are you telling me that you didn't have a bad feeling about the 2004 Chiefs when they stunk it up in the preseason on offense? I did. And it took them 8 games to get a win (including preseason).

Don't discount pre-season games. You definitely get an idea of talent and depth.

And if guys can ****ing catch the ball.

Watching how the team performs in individual situations is fine. The final score, however, doesn't really matter as the OP implies.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-13-2009 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding (Post 5971608)
Whats your Avvy supposed to be ROR?

I got tired of GoChiefs Pollard BS, and decided to retaliate. The pic/animation if from LJ's blog that GoChiefs gets all "teen beat" about.

BigMeatballDave 08-13-2009 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5971596)
I do.

It's called scouting. Watching other players (as well as the Chiefs).

Are you telling me that you didn't have a bad feeling about the 2004 Chiefs when they stunk it up in the preseason on offense? I did. And it took them 8 games to get a win (including preseason).

Don't discount pre-season games. You definitely get an idea of talent and depth.

And if guys can ****ing catch the ball.

I just do not take that much stock in preseason.

DaneMcCloud 08-13-2009 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 5971622)
I just do not take that much stock in preseason.

Well, then you and I are different.

I like to see recievers run their routes and catch the football.

I like to see running backs fight for yards.

I like to see the special teams.

I like to see new talent.

I like to see the attitude of the team.

I've been watching preseason for 30 years and it's always informative.

SPchief 08-13-2009 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 5971622)
I just do not take that much stock in preseason.

ding ding ding

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-13-2009 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 5971613)
Watching how the team performs in individual situations is fine. The final score, however, doesn't really matter as the OP implies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 5971622)
I just do not take that much stock in preseason.

The score doesn't matter, but the game gives you a good idea of what the team's overall energy, competence, direction, and focus are made of.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-13-2009 10:49 PM

Boy I sure am glad we got rid of Franklin and are now working out some "Leslie"(?) dude...:shake:

Pablo 08-13-2009 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5971629)
Boy I sure am glad we got rid of Franklin and are now working out some "Leslie"(?) dude...:shake:

Haha, didn't Haley tear him down so bad he asked to be released?

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-13-2009 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 5971635)
Haha, didn't Haley tear him down so bad he asked to be released?

Rumor mill.

I only bring it up because he just made a kick ass catch in the Faid end zone.

DaneMcCloud 08-13-2009 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 5971624)
ding ding ding

No offense, but this is why people repeatedly predict the Chiefs will be 8-8, 9-7 or 10-6.

They don't watch preseason football.

They just party.

Mecca 08-13-2009 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5971606)
Yeah. I'm getting from the re-run of the philly/pats game that Philly's line is umm....bad.

Oh and I hate Squirmin Herman.

Peters and Andrews weren't playing so that's probably why.

BigMeatballDave 08-13-2009 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5971623)
Well, then you and I are different.

I like to see recievers run their routes and catch the football.

I like to see running backs fight for yards.

I like to see the special teams.

I like to see new talent.

I like to see the attitude of the team.

I've been watching preseason for 30 years and it's always informative.

I see what you are saying. I do, however, pay close attention to the 1st quarter.

DaneMcCloud 08-13-2009 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5971649)
Peters and Andrews weren't playing so that's probably why.

Andrews and Andrews?

Or just Andrews?

And why were they up 23-9 or whatever in the 4th quarter if they sucked?

BigMeatballDave 08-13-2009 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5971623)
Well, then you and I are different.

Dude, you're getting soft. What happened to '**** you'? :D

DaneMcCloud 08-13-2009 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 5971653)
I see what you are saying. I do, however, pay close attention to the 1st quarter.

Dave, we need to hang out :thumb:

I guarantee that you'd look at preseason differently.

Of course, it would be through beer goggles, but we'd watch all 4 quarters.

:D

KCrockaholic 08-13-2009 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5971581)
Yea Asomugha is one of the few 99 guys on the game.

And T Gonz beat the shit out of Nnamdi last year. Hes overrated IMO. Im doing my best to not be biased...To be fair, I think Champ is still better than him.

DaneMcCloud 08-13-2009 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 5971664)
And T Gonz beat the shit out of Nnamdi last year. Hes overrated IMO. Im doing my best to not be biased...To be fair, I think Champ is still better than him.

You're a dumbass

Pablo 08-13-2009 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 5971664)
And T Gonz beat the shit out of Nnamdi last year. Hes overrated IMO. Im doing my best to not be biased...To be fair, I think Champ is still better than him.

Champ is seriously over-rated at this point in his career. Asomugha is a much, much better CB.

I'd take Flowers over Bailey in a heartbeat this season.

And most every DB or LB for that matter is going to have an incredibly difficult time containing Tony. He's just a ball-catching freak. So that's not a very fair assessment of Asomugha's worth.

BigMeatballDave 08-13-2009 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5971657)
Dave, we need to hang out :thumb:

I guarantee that you'd look at preseason differently.

Of course, it would be through beer goggles, but we'd watch all 4 quarters.

:D

I'm sure that would be a blast!

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-13-2009 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 5971674)
Champ is seriously over-rated at this point in his career. Asomugha is a much, much better CB.

I'd take Flowers over Bailey in a heartbeat this season.

This.

And for Flowers and Asomugha in the Chiefs DB Corps, I'd tell BP to take a hike.

Mecca 08-13-2009 11:27 PM

If the Chiefs had drafted Asomugha the fan base would have flipped out...

He was a college safety that got converted to corner I could have just heard that one.

Goldmember 08-13-2009 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5971623)
Well, then you and I are different.

I like to see recievers run their routes and catch the football.

I like to see running backs fight for yards.

I like to see the special teams.

I like to see new talent.

I like to see the attitude of the team.

I've been watching preseason for 30 years and it's always informative.

I agree, most of the time it is pretty telling unless the other team is playing its starters for half the game or game planning the other team, but you can still get a good idea of how the players are doing individually, same as in practice. Players get cut after preseason games based on performance, same as in practice

Titty Meat 08-14-2009 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5971596)
I do.

It's called scouting. Watching other players (as well as the Chiefs).

Are you telling me that you didn't have a bad feeling about the 2004 Chiefs when they stunk it up in the preseason on offense? I did. And it took them 8 games to get a win (including preseason).

Don't discount pre-season games. You definitely get an idea of talent and depth.

And if guys can ****ing catch the ball.

That's somewhat true. The Chiefs only scored like 1 TD in the 2003 pre-season. Alot of the stuff you see in pre-season should be corrected if the team has good coaching. Tom Brady did look pretty good except when the Eagles would blitz. It's important cuz he's on my fantasy team.

chiefs1111 08-14-2009 01:15 AM

I really wish the Chiefs would have taken Louis Murphy in this years draft

TheGuardian 08-14-2009 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5971623)
Well, then you and I are different.

I like to see recievers run their routes and catch the football.

I like to see running backs fight for yards.

I like to see the special teams.

I like to see new talent.

I like to see the attitude of the team.

I've been watching preseason for 30 years and it's always informative.

And it also doesn't tell you 1 single thing about how teams will do in the regular season and we can show pre-season to regular season records that back that up over and over again. Teams do not scheme, generally they don't blitz or show any of the things that make them GOOD during the regular season. You can't even look at the first team and get any idea of how good or how bad they might be.

You might like to see all of this stuff but it still doesn't tell you a damned thing about what is going to happen in the regular season. Nothing.

Saulbadguy 08-14-2009 07:55 AM

Preseason is good for watching individual talent and players, but not watching the entire defense or offense in any given situation. The score doesn't matter at all either.

Lzen 08-14-2009 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 5971635)
Haha, didn't Haley tear him down so bad he asked to be released?

One of those soft MU Tigers. :D

Lzen 08-14-2009 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 5971922)
And it also doesn't tell you 1 single thing about how teams will do in the regular season and we can show pre-season to regular season records that back that up over and over again. Teams do not scheme, generally they don't blitz or show any of the things that make them GOOD during the regular season. You can't even look at the first team and get any idea of how good or how bad they might be.

You might like to see all of this stuff but it still doesn't tell you a damned thing about what is going to happen in the regular season. Nothing.

Exactly. I get excited to watch the preseason games because I am so ready to watch some football. But you still have to temper that enthusiasm (or negativity) because it is just preseason. And teams don't play like they do in the regular season for the reasons you stated.

For that one example Dane gave of the 2004 Chiefs, one could probably come up with several others proving the opposite. Preseason simply is not the same thing as regular season. And it really is hard to glean much from it.

Like the Lions being 4-0 in preseason last year, the Chargers of 1998 were unbeaten in preseason, as well. Ryan Leaf looked like he was going to be an NFL superstar. We all saw how that turned out when the Chiefs really put the heat on him.

Coogs 08-14-2009 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 5971588)
WTF? Its pre-season. Who gives a shit? Seriously?


If we play crappy tomorrow night against the Texans... I'm guessing full melt down from over half of the posters here.

the Talking Can 08-14-2009 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5971566)
JaMarcus was particularly impressive.


man we were watching different games.....

Ugly Duck 08-14-2009 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5971687)
If the Chiefs had drafted Asomugha the fan base would have flipped out...

He was a college safety that got converted to corner I could have just heard that one.

Pundits were laughing their butts off when Al Davis was stupid enough to "waste" a 1st-round pick on Asomugha. Now we'd suck even worse if he weren't there to spook QBs from throwing to his side. Last night, Romo's 1st series went 3 & out when Asomugha was in. The Oakland pulled the guy for Romo's 2nd series & he just kept throwing to where Asomugha used to be.... TD Cowboys. Big Al had no choice but to pay him Big Money to stay in Oakland.

Marcellus 08-14-2009 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 5971966)
If we play crappy tomorrow night against the Texans... I'm guessing full melt down from over half of the posters here.

Here is a better prediction:

If the Chiefs play like crap - Dane and Mecca say "see I told you so".

If the Chiefs play well - Dane and Mecca say, "it's only preseason, doesn't matter" Or they find a player or two who looked bad and spend all their time bitching about them instead of commenting on who looked good.

:)

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-14-2009 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 5971935)
One of those soft MU Tigers. :D

How many Birds in the NFL again? :D

Lzen 08-14-2009 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5972722)
How many Birds in the NFL again? :D

10 currently
http://www2.kusports.com/football/nfl/

DaneMcCloud 08-14-2009 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 5972687)
Here is a better prediction:

If the Chiefs play like crap - Dane and Mecca say "see I told you so".

If the Chiefs play well - Dane and Mecca say, "it's only preseason, doesn't matter" Or they find a player or two who looked bad and spend all their time bitching about them instead of commenting on who looked good.

:)

**** you

kepp 08-14-2009 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 5972830)

I'd want to leave too-
http://www.tigerboard.com/uimages/user1189_46.jpg

kepp 08-14-2009 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 5971935)
One of those soft MU Tigers. :D

Speaking of MU receivers, anyone see Maclin's 165 all-purpose yards last night? He also would have had a TD if not for pass interference.

R8RFAN 08-14-2009 04:05 PM

Look, the Raiders aren't going to go to the Superbowl but they are gonna kick the living shit out of the Chiefs

You heard it here first...

Skip Towne 08-14-2009 04:20 PM

What's Dennis Byrd doing these days? I heard he bought some land over around Delaware, Oklahoma.

kcchiefsus 08-14-2009 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 5972912)
Look, the Raiders aren't going to go to the Superbowl but they are gonna kick the living shit out of the Chiefs

You heard it here first...

Yeah, I'm sure they are. :rolleyes:

If you take anything out of the Faiders preseason performance you are going to be sadly dissapointed once the season starts.

Halfcan 08-14-2009 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5971596)
I do.

It's called scouting. Watching other players (as well as the Chiefs).

Are you telling me that you didn't have a bad feeling about the 2004 Chiefs when they stunk it up in the preseason on offense? I did. And it took them 8 games to get a win (including preseason).

Don't discount pre-season games. You definitely get an idea of talent and depth.

And if guys can ****ing catch the ball.

yep

RNR 08-14-2009 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck (Post 5972592)
Pundits were laughing their butts off when Al Davis was stupid enough to "waste" a 1st-round pick on Asomugha. Now we'd suck even worse if he weren't there to spook QBs from throwing to his side. Last night, Romo's 1st series went 3 & out when Asomugha was in. The Oakland pulled the guy for Romo's 2nd series & he just kept throwing to where Asomugha used to be.... TD Cowboys. Big Al had no choice but to pay him Big Money to stay in Oakland.

He left with an injury to his heel is what I read. It is not thought to be serious and most likely would have stayed in the game if it was regular season. You are right about signing him he is far and away the best player in Silver and Black and far away the best CB in the NFL. Second best is distant to say the least.

DaneMcCloud 08-14-2009 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5971979)
man we were watching different games.....

6/9 for 50 yards. His arm was a freakin' laser. Schilens caught 5 passes for 52 yards. McFadden had 63 yards on 4 carries.

The other QB's also played well. So I guess we didn't watch the same game.

kcchiefsus 08-14-2009 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5973051)
6/9 for 50 yards. His arm was a freakin' laser. Schilens caught 5 passes for 52 yards. McFadden had 63 yards on 4 carries.

The other QB's also played well. So I guess we didn't watch the same game.

His arm being a laser was never in doubt. But there are shitty quarterbacks that look great in the preseason all the time, yet when it comes to the regular season they suck all of a sudden. I'm not worried about Russell.

the Talking Can 08-14-2009 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5973051)
6/9 for 50 yards. His arm was a freakin' laser. Schilens caught 5 passes for 52 yards. McFadden had 63 yards on 4 carries.

The other QB's also played well. So I guess we didn't watch the same game.

lmao

he completed a bunch of short passes/screens....he missed his 3 deep balls badly - they weren't lasers, they were ducks - and two of them, the fist and second, could/should have been intercepted....if it weren't for a flagrantly bogus PI call on the second, which ended up being 47 yards, they wouldn't have even scored a FG with russell


a fat ass throwing 4 yard swing passes doesn't excite me that much, but knock yourself out.....

Tiger's Fan 08-14-2009 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 5972687)
Here is a better prediction:

If the Chiefs play like crap - Dane and Mecca say "see I told you so".

If the Chiefs play well - Dane and Mecca say, "it's only preseason, doesn't matter" Or they find a player or two who looked bad and spend all their time bitching about them instead of commenting on who looked good.

:)

QFT

DaneMcCloud 08-14-2009 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 5973072)
I'm not worried about Russell.

Of course your not.

Chiefs fans never take into account the improvement of players on other teams.

DaneMcCloud 08-14-2009 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 5973089)
QFT

****

You

Too

Pablo 08-14-2009 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5973090)
Of course your not.

Chiefs fans never take into account the improvement of players on other teams.

I wouldn't go so far as to say he's definitely improved. I'll need more than a couple series in preseason to make that assessment.

Tiger's Fan 08-14-2009 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5973073)
lmao

he completed a bunch of short passes/screens....he missed his 3 deep balls badly - they weren't lasers, they were ducks - and two of them, the fist and second, could/should have been intercepted....if it weren't for a flagrantly bogus PI call on the second, which ended up being 47 yards, they wouldn't have even scored a FG with russell


a fat ass throwing 4 yard swing passes doesn't excite me that much, but knock yourself out.....

:clap:

DaneMcCloud 08-14-2009 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 5973095)
I wouldn't go so far as to say he's definitely improved. I'll need more than a couple series in preseason to make that assessment.

Of course.

But outright dismissal is just plain dumb.

Pablo 08-14-2009 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5973098)
Of course.

But outright dismissal is just plain dumb.

He looked a whole lot better than I expected...I was really expecting a Thigpen-esque performance.

But he's so goddamn huge, the Fade really need to bust his ass and get him slimmed down. I mean, he looked like an aging McNair when he had to scramble..

DaneMcCloud 08-14-2009 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 5973106)
He looked a whole lot better than I expected...I was really expecting a Thigpen-esque performance.

Based on what I've read on the 'Planet about him, I did as well.

Which is also why I stated last night that he was impressive.

But what really impressed me last night were the Raiders receivers and McFadden. They really have the makings of a potent, high-powered offense. I'm not stating that they will be either of those things, but the talent sure looks to be there.

the Talking Can 08-14-2009 05:43 PM

russel has all the talent, i just don't think he has the head or commitment


his wind up is slow, and he throws his deep ball late....this is all correctable, but it strikes me as something going on in his head, like his neurons are firing a half-second slow...i don't know, he just never seems focused

i admit i could be biased by the fact that he is a fat ass lard butt

DaneMcCloud 08-14-2009 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5973118)
russel has all the talent, i just don't think he has the head or commitment


his wind up is slow, and he throws his deep ball late....this is all correctable, but it strikes me as something going on in his head, like his neurons are firing a half-second slow...i don't know, he just never seems focused

i admit i could be biased by the fact that he is a fat ass lard butt

Well, I hope he stays all of those things. But with Paul Hackett in his year, he may improve.

One thing's for sure: They have depth. Garcia looked good and Gradowski looked very good (albeit against 2nd and 3rd teamers). I don't understand why Tampa let him walk.

Pablo 08-14-2009 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5973116)
Based on what I've read on the 'Planet about him, I did as well.

Which is also why I stated last night that he was impressive.

But what really impressed me last night were the Raiders receivers and McFadden. They really have the makings of a potent, high-powered offense. I'm not stating that they will be either of those things, but the talent sure looks to be there.

Oh, I've been sold on McFadden since he came into the league...he's gonna be a beast. I just question if Russell has the mental talent/commitment to be a good QB in this league.

A dude that big; that is fairly mobile really needs to slim down...fast. He's gonna have a litany of injury issues if he keep carrying all that extra weight around. You'd think if you were the No. 1 draft pick you'd respect that position enough to lay off the ****ing cheeseburgers and come into preseason in great shape.

the Talking Can 08-14-2009 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5973125)
Well, I hope he stays all of those things. But with Paul Hackett in his year, he may improve.

One thing's for sure: They have depth. Garcia looked good and Gradowski looked very good (albeit against 2nd and 3rd teamers). I don't understand why Tampa let him walk.

totally agree about the backups....will be interesting to see the pressure to win now, because they can with Garcia, but Russell is going to be a bumpy ride imo

Pablo 08-14-2009 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5973133)
totally agree about the backups....will be interesting to see the pressure to win now, because they can with Garcia, but Russell is going to be a bumpy ride imo

Shit, you know with Al it's win now; all the ****ing time.

Garcia is a legit QB that never got his proper dues. If Fatmarcus struggles, his ass will be on the bench in a second...and I'm honestly a little worried about having to play Garcia.

RNR 08-14-2009 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5973125)
Well, I hope he stays all of those things. But with Paul Hackett in his year, he may improve.

One thing's for sure: They have depth. Garcia looked good and Gradowski looked very good (albeit against 2nd and 3rd teamers). I don't understand why Tampa let him walk.

Hey I did not see the game and I am digging the love. However from what I read Bruce Gradkowski and Charlie Frye combined to complete 16 of 28 passes for 241 yards and two touchdowns. No. 2 quarterback Jeff Garcia didn't play because of injury.

DaneMcCloud 08-14-2009 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 5973167)
Hey I did not see the game and I am digging the love. However from what I read Bruce Gradkowski and Charlie Frye combined to complete 16 of 28 passes for 241 yards and two touchdowns. No. 2 quarterback Jeff Garcia didn't play because of injury.

You know what, you're right.

I saw #5 out there in the early 2nd quarter and automatically assumed it was Garcia. It was Gradowski. Yet when the announcers called him Gradowski after the 49 yard reception to Miller that put them on the 1, I didn't put two and two together.

Duh.


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