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Saul Good 05-02-2013 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 9652464)
Well, there you go Saul Good.

My bad, I guess.

No worries. Everybody gets lucky once in a while.

Saul Good 05-02-2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 9652474)
Yet that wasn't part of the story posted in the OP.

Right. As I mentioned, the piece was very clearly biased. They took a quote from a kid calling it a science project but didn't quote the police report. I don't see how everyone didn't recognize that critical details were being omitted.

Bump 05-02-2013 11:47 AM

I could see a 3 day suspension being in order to send a message to the rest of the students that doing something kinda stupid does have consequences.

But come on, they want to use no tolerance laws and recent bombings to make her out to be a terrorist when she had no intent to harm anybody.

One of your kids might do something equally dumb and will most likely get the same fate as her due to this country becoming a zero tolerance, police state.

But if I were a parent, I would certainly pull my child out of that school district and explain that I fear my child's life can easily be ruined by a little mistake. And teens often make little mistakes.

Saul Good 05-02-2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 9652469)
Am I missing something? Or do I have to click on the link to see that she was mixing toilet bowl cleaner and aluminum foil?

It wasn't in the hack article posted in the OP, but the follow-up from Fox listed the components and quoted the police report.

Bump 05-02-2013 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9652479)
Right. As I mentioned, the piece was very clearly biased. They took a quote from a kid calling it a science project but didn't quote the police report. I don't see how everyone didn't recognize that critical details were being omitted.

still doesn't matter that much though. She wasn't even near anybody, according to this report and obviously had no intent to harm. But this police state isn't good and students shouldn't be going to school with nothing but fear on their minds. But that's america, fear = control, the more you are controlled the better it is for them.

What about the kid who got arrested for wearing a T shirt that said 'stand up for your rights'

Saul Good 05-02-2013 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9652485)
I could see a 3 day suspension being in order to send a message to the rest of the students that doing something kinda stupid does have consequences.

But come on, they want to use no tolerance laws and recent bombings to make her out to be a terrorist when she had no intent to harm anybody.

One of your kids might do something equally dumb and will most likely get the same fate as her due to this country becoming a zero tolerance, police state.

But if I were a parent, I would certainly pull my child out of that school district and explain that I fear my child's life can easily be ruined by a little mistake. And teens often make little mistakes.

Some teens make little mistakes. Other teens bring homemade bombs to school. Tiny as it may have been, I'm fine with a zero tolerance policy for detonating homemade bombs at school. Good luck finding a school with a more liberal policy on students detonating bombs.

Bump 05-02-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9652501)
I agree with everything the government does, they are here to protect us and I chant USA USA USA at sporting events after every terrorist attack

that's pretty much what I heard you say

Bump 05-02-2013 12:05 PM

but, I guess the whole thing about this is

she chose to do it on her own

Yes, it appears that the first story is BS because they said it was a failed science project. So, I won't take much account into anything they report in the future.

But, still doesn't mean she should be treated as a ****ing terrorist.



But now, I want to know. What was her real motive for doing this?

Was it to gain attention? or was she genuinely interested in how chemistry works and she was experimenting out of a will to gain knowledge?

Given her 'great student' and 'never been in any trouble, ever'

kinds tells me that it's an honest mistake and a small punishment is warranted. But the police? a federal crime?

Scary world to raise a child in this country now. I wouldn't have the heart to have a child, knowing that I can't afford a good education for them and they will have to go to school in fear of making a mistake and having their life ruined over it.

If it turns out, she did this with cruel intentions. I'll eat my words, I always take accountability when I'm wrong about something (a trait not many have).

loochy 05-02-2013 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9652507)
that's pretty much what I heard you say

ROFL

boogblaster 05-02-2013 01:21 PM

jfc ....

Fish 05-16-2013 07:41 AM

Charges dropped.


Charges dropped against Florida teen over amateur science experiment

The Florida teenager who was arrested two weeks ago for causing a small explosion on the campus of her high school will not be charged with a crime. Kiera Wilmot, 16, was arrested by police in Bartow, Florida, after conducting an unauthorized science experiment which lightly damaged an eight ounce plastic water bottle.

At the time, Wilmot faced possible charges for “possessing or discharging weapons or firearms at a school sponsored event or on school property.” If she had been convicted, she could have faced up to five years in prison.

Wilmot’s arrest became a national story, as members of the press and the scientific community insisted that Wilmot was the victim of a massive overreaction from law enforcement. A crowdfunded legal defense fund netted over $8,000 to cover Wilmot’s potential legal fees, and a Change.org petition to get the charges dropped received nearly 200,000 signatures.

“Even though I don’t have the privilege of knowing Kiera, I believe we all have the responsibility to stand up with one another whenever there is injustice and felt I had to do whatever I could to make sure the unjust felony charges were dropped,” said Maggie Gilman, the creator of the petition, in a statement circulated by Change.org. “I’m very thankful to the 195,000 people who stood with Kiera and signed the petition on Change.org!”

Wilmot has already served a ten-day suspension, and is now attending another high school, according to her attorney.

jspchief 05-16-2013 08:12 AM

Nice to see common sense prevail.

kepp 05-16-2013 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9686408)
Nice to see common sense prevail.

It doesn't seem like it was common sense though. It was public pressure. But, whatever...glad the right thing was done.

Just Passin' By 05-16-2013 09:26 AM

It's great that the charges were dropped. Unfortunately, the idiotic policy which was so much a part of the problem probably still won't be changed.

Saul Good 05-16-2013 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9686513)
It's great that the charges were dropped. Unfortunately, the idiotic policy which was so much a part of the problem probably still won't be changed.

Agreed. That silly and archaic "no bombs allowed at schools" policy should be updated to "some bombs allowed at schools".

When will we learn?


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