Take away games started by Tuel, Keenum, Campbell, Pryor etc and does this still hold up?

eventually we are going down a path of "would Dorsey fire his friend" if yes, who would he consider as replacements, assuming from that tree. If no, are Andy and Dorsey a package, do we have to fire both and start over. Dorsey has done his job, the question is how is the staff hierarchy considering we hired Andy before Dorsey.

This board loves Andrew Luck. Go take away all his wins against shit teams and report back

Those 3 fumbles were all on Andy Reid. Blame Andy!!!

What about his wins against shit playoff teams??

Read the thread.

SITUATIONAL FOOTBALL, MOTHER****ER - HAVE YOU HEARD OF IT??
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Pfft. That's even more damning. What's that matter when you lose to Ten and Oak and miss the playoffs at 9-7??

That's indicitive of terrible coaching.

We have possibly the deepest roster from position to position in the league, the talent to beat ANY TEAM, including both Super Bowl participants from last year...

And you lose to doormats like Ten and Oak??

That's terrible coaching, by definition.

Primarily yes, but somewhat no. The top two picks he had in his first two drafts are turning out to be flops. His 1:1 pick could be historically bad, and the Dee Ford pick looks to be 1st rd back-up material. The right side of the OL is pathetic, and he owns that. I really like most of the moves he's made, but I just can't get over how bad half the OL looks.

No one is firing Reid. And he's also done nothing worthy of being fired. This is akin to drafting Derek Carr because he's a QB and we need a QB. We're not doing better than Reid. Firing a guy doesn't mean upgrade. We still couldn't have had anyone that was an upgrade to Alex Smith. If this board ran the Chiefs, we'd be more of a laughing stock than Jacksonville

Andy is just going to be Andy. As long as he's here - and he'll be here quite a while if he strings together .500+ football teams - we're going to have games like this.

Too smart for his own good! I've heard that about someone else on this team as well. What a pairing we have Chiefs fans, a QB and HC that are just TOO smart.

And that's supposed to be their bread and butter.

Andy was Oline and TEs as a position coach.

Has he ever been an OC (besides his own) at the NFL level??

Don't think so...

I'm talking about ingame management on Sunday gamedays.

You're the type of mother****er where someone asks you the time, you try to to tell them how to build a watch.

I'm no draftnik. I'm not a talent evaluator.

But I've played enough Madden and watched enough football to know that I could've done a better job than Reid last night.

And his in game incompetence is enough to get him fired, if I were the owner.

It was embarrassing and unacceptable.

I would DEMAND greatness.

Be great or be gone.

And Andy is far from great.

Reid is still better than most coaches in the league

as horrible as those picks are, and they are horrible. Dorsey has given us Marcus Peters, Mitch Morse, Travis Kelce. These are diamond in the rough picks Fat Scott could never pick for us. Fat Scott only gave us 4 good players cause they landed in his lap. Even though Dorsey misses he still does his homework in all phases and lands us good players with his bad ones. Fat Scott would only get us turds. Dorsey has found us Ron Parker, Jaye Howard, Hussain Abdullah, on the scrap heap. Fat Scott was giving us Stanford Routt, Sabby Piscitelli and Peyton Hillis. Horrible.

Sanka - get some.