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Molitoth 12-06-2012 02:51 PM

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I believe we should re-examine our love affair with guns. They don’t protect us from tyranny. Guns are toys in America. Guns are a dangerous hobby. Guns are a macho accessory, no different from a shiny sports car.
It's really quite true.

I love staring at my weapons, and taking them out to the range. I love knowing that if someone ever attempts to break in my house while I am home, they will have x12 .40 cal rounds unloaded into them until they die to protect what is mine. Do I NEED a gun? No; not if the person breaking into my house doesn't have one either... a sword would be fine by me. A more honorable fight. If NOBODY owned a gun, NOBODY would need a gun for protection. Will that EVER happen? I don't think so.

But honestly, Whitlock is right.

CrazyPhuD 12-06-2012 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9185594)
I believe we should re-examine our love affair with guns. They don’t protect us from tyranny. Guns are toys in America. Guns are a dangerous hobby. Guns are a macho accessory, no different from a shiny sports car.

But see here's the point...I totally agree with this. I own guns, I'm not particularly a fan of the self defense aspects and I'll probably never be interested in hunting. I'm interesting in firearms like I am in cars, I target shoot them and experiment with novel new mechanical technologies. They are my hobby, my toys, and how I express myself.

Would the government think it's ok the ban sports cars too? That hobby is potentially dangerous also. We have 'assault weapons' bans in certain states that ban features on guns that are realistically cosmetic only. Should we also ban spoilers on cars and aftermarket rims because street racers do that to their cars to and they kill people with them?

I change how my firearms look depending upon how I feel, maybe I'll build an AR with wood furniture and a stainless barrel. Or maybe I'll change up for a more traditional black rifle, depending upon how I feel. How is that different than you waking up in the morning and choosing to wear a blue shirt instead of a red one? Frankly you don't 'need' to wear a colored shirt at all, an uncolored one is perfectly functional and saves money.

Hell why would anyone need a gun that looks like
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/w..._1370-tfb.jpeg
Or this??
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/w...3040_n-tfb.jpg

The funny thing is, in a number of states(and from 1994-2004 nationwide), certain guns are prohibited...not because they were any more dangerous...but because they looked different. The fact that in this day and age we are banning things solely because they look different should frighten anyone....

whoman69 12-06-2012 02:56 PM

Reading the argument, I don't see Whitlock even talking about gun control. He is talking about the nation's proliferation of guns and their love affair with the gun. He is arguing that more guns are not making us safer. He is arguing that in a case like Jovan Belcher it is all to common that in the heat of the moment its too easy to pull out a pistol and start shooting.

Frazod 12-06-2012 03:02 PM

This basically translates as "There's no way I can back up my Anti-American bullshit in a debate against an intelligent person, so I'm going to hide behind my computer like a bitch."

Way to sack up, Mariotti. Did you get a free box of tampons with that article?

And I like the part where he says that the people he likens to klansman aren't really racist, though. Gee, that's nice. 4321

philfree 12-06-2012 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 9185582)
Obama stated point blank that he is in favor of gun control, I believe at the final debate.



I'm not a member of the NRA and I don't give them money directly and I don't agree with all of their statements, however they are doing good work to defend my rights as an owner of multiple guns.

Oddly enough, even though I became a gun owner at 6 years old with a crossman pump pellet gun, and owned a shotgun at 12 and many other guns since...not a single one of them have harmed another human being or have been used in a crime. Not Once.

It's a miracle.

I got my .410/.22 O/U when I was 10 years old and not once since then I have ever considered turning a weapon on another person. Not then and not any time since. That article is full of alot of bull.

philfree 12-06-2012 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9185618)
It's really quite true.

I love staring at my weapons, and taking them out to the range. I love knowing that if someone ever attempts to break in my house while I am home, they will have x12 .40 cal rounds unloaded into them until they die to protect what is mine. Do I NEED a gun? No; not if the person breaking into my house doesn't have one either... a sword would be fine by me. A more honorable fight. If NOBODY owned a gun, NOBODY would need a gun for protection. Will that EVER happen? I don't think so.

But honestly, Whitlock is right.

:spock: I don't believe that's so.

Iowanian 12-06-2012 03:09 PM

I bought both of my girls daisy "buck" bb guns this week for Christmas.

Whitlock just needs to shoot a toilet full of tannerite with a tracer round from an AR.

Reerun_KC 12-06-2012 03:12 PM

LOL


I have guns to protect me from the reeruns that dont want guns...

CrazyPhuD 12-06-2012 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9185618)
If NOBODY owned a gun, NOBODY would need a gun for protection. Will that EVER happen? I don't think so.

But honestly, Whitlock is right.

While again I am no big fan of the self defense side, the flaw is this argument is the 95lb women against the 200lb rapist. Even if she has a blade she gets about one strike, because once within grapple range it is all over. A gun equalizes strength for her quite quickly.

Also remember even Diane Feinstein had a concealed carry permit, something she conveniently likes to forget....(sorry originally listed Pelosi...wrong CA base Gun control advocate...)

Ming the Merciless 12-06-2012 03:13 PM

****ing chicken shit scared to debate......if you are in the right, you wouldnt be scared to debate anyone, anywhere

Garcia Bronco 12-06-2012 03:14 PM

Maybe I am crazy but at least once a week driving at night...I see something that makes me put the .45 on the passenger seat from it's hiding spot. Either crazy drivers, poeople walking up behind my car to cross the street.

If you know my story I have a number of relatives shot and killed. Now that might happen to me too, but not for a lack of shooting back.

It's a dangerous world.

We are not that much more evolved than people living 2000 years ago.

We have just perfected a few modern living benefits.

Shut of the water and the electricity or slow or stop the resources and food and see what happens

People will go crazy

They will hurt people and steal

Once the survival instinct kicks in

All bets are off

Prison rules

It's kinda ****ed up.

Reerun_KC 12-06-2012 03:17 PM

I wish JWhit would help me pick out a couple of Tactical shotguns for home defense...

philfree 12-06-2012 03:18 PM

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I further argued that our Second Amendment is outdated. The right to bear arms no longer protects us from a government armed with stealth bombers, predator drones, tanks, nuclear weapons and all the other knickknacks James Madison and Co. couldn’t envision when ratifying the Bill of Rights in 1791.

This is complete bullshit. If our government turned those kind of weapons on the American people, If it came down to the government against the people like that the people would take their small arms and go take over the armouries and get bigger weapons to even the playing field.

Iowanian 12-06-2012 03:18 PM

He would respond but he's trying to level up his AA12 on black ops.

Reerun_KC 12-06-2012 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 9185702)
This is complete bullshit. If our government turned those kind of weapons on the American people, If it came down to the government against the people like that the people would take their small arms and go take over the armouries and get bigger weapons to even the playing field.

I would find it hard to believe that most of the military would take up Arms against their families or friends...

It wouldnt be pretty. The amount of military people that would turn on the Govt would be staggering...

Our right to bear arms is what keeps this country free... No one is going to take guns away from americans without a fight. We are americans for Gods sake, we will defend our rights and ourselves...


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