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big nasty kcnut 01-12-2018 05:13 PM

So why do they want pm2 to be under center
 
I think he should be in shotgun if it make him feel comfortable. Plus able to move around the pocket better.

BigRedChief 01-12-2018 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut (Post 13356822)
I think he should be in shotgun if it make him feel comfortable. Plus able to move around the pocket better.

Dude, you have to show different looks to defenses.

Pitt Gorilla 01-12-2018 05:16 PM

He can already do both. It’s literally not going to matter.

In58men 01-12-2018 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13356828)
Dude, you have to show different looks to defenses.

Wasn’t there some “stat” out there that stated Steve Young & Montana took every snap under center? Just saying

hitchief 01-12-2018 05:22 PM

He can do anything so don't sweat it.

He's a gunslinger so don't need to fool the D with play action.

Playoffs baby and Arrowhead victory for the fans to boot.

Bewbies 01-12-2018 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 13356839)
Wasn’t there some “stat” out there that stated Steve Young & Montana took every snap under center? Just saying

Is PM2 playing in the 80’s or 90’s? Can we bring Derrick Thomas back while we’re at it?

Toad 01-12-2018 05:24 PM

In general, under center gives appearance of either run or pass. Linebackers typically plays the run first, then drops back in coverage.

In shotgun, it's much easier for a linebacker to defend, because there is more time for the running back to reach the line of scrimmage if its is a run.

In58men 01-12-2018 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 13356844)
Is PM2 playing in the 80’s or 90’s? Can we bring Derrick Thomas back while we’re at it?

Like I said cock boy, “just saying”.


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jaa1025 01-12-2018 05:42 PM

This is very overblown.

The Chiefs ran out of the shotgun 72% of the time last year and had the #5 offense in the NFL.

Pittsburgh ran their offense out of shotgun 71% of the time and finished with the #3 offense this year.

Chargers were at 66% in shotgun and finished #4 offensively in the NFL.

Philly was at 71% in shotgun and finished #7 offensively in the NFL.

Only 11 teams ran under center 50% of the time or greater. Most teams ran out of shotgun more than they did under center.

OKchiefs 01-12-2018 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 13356879)
This is very overblown.

The Chiefs ran out of the shotgun 72% of the time last year and had the #5 offense in the NFL.

Pittsburgh ran their offense out of shotgun 71% of the time and finished with the #3 offense this year.

Chargers were at 66% in shotgun and finished #4 offensively in the NFL.

Philly was at 71% in shotgun and finished #7 offensively in the NFL.

Only 11 teams ran under center 50% of the time or greater. Most teams ran out of shotgun more than they did under center.

Running from under center still needs to be an option, particularly in short yardage and goalline situations. Unless you want to let the defense know you're going to run when under center every time you have to be able to pass from under center.

Sandy Vagina 01-12-2018 05:50 PM

Under center sells play-action better, and with such a good RB and deep threats at TE and WR1? the Chiefs should run a ton of PA snaps.

Coogs 01-12-2018 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13356891)
Running from under center still needs to be an option, particularly in short yardage and goalline situations. Unless you want to let the defense know you're going to run when under center every time you have to be able to pass from under center.

You mean like he did in Denver a few times?

jaa1025 01-12-2018 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13356891)
Running from under center still needs to be an option, particularly in short yardage and goalline situations. Unless you want to let the defense know you're going to run when under center every time you have to be able to pass from under center.

Running from shotgun gives you Run Pass Option which the Chiefs love to run. It also opens up things for a QB. Running from center is and always will be an option. Mahomes has shown that he can run plays from under center. It's a complete non issue.

OKchiefs 01-12-2018 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 13356895)
Running from shotgun gives you Run Pass Option which the Chiefs love to run. It also opens up things for a QB. Running from center is and always will be an option. Mahomes has shown that he can run plays from under center. It's a complete non issue.

I don't see how you can say it's a non issue. Nobody said he has to run a majority of plays from center, but it's still something that has to be an option in any offense. There's a reason no NFL team runs exclusively out of the shotgun.

Without the threat of a pass play from under center defenders will always key on the run when under center.

It's still something to monitor. I'm sure Mahomes will pick it up fine, but it's a false assumption to just say it's not an issue and not to worry about it. I can almost guarantee it's been an emphasis in practice since he's been here. Even if he operates out of the shotgun the majority of the time, plays from under center are still going to be a part of the playbook and something he has to learn.

ARROW2 01-12-2018 06:06 PM

I heard that we ran 3 plays from under center saturday


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