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stonedstooge 09-09-2012 04:39 PM

w00t

Bowser 09-09-2012 04:43 PM

Excellent. Anything to piss in Hawk Harrelson's Post Toasties.

Three7s 09-09-2012 06:31 PM

Royals avoid 100 losses! Hallelujah!

Bowser 09-09-2012 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 8895601)
Royals avoid 100 losses! Hallelujah!

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Ceej 09-09-2012 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8895739)

LMAO LMAO LMAO

Demonpenz 09-09-2012 09:28 PM

a crank yankers reference

Deberg_1990 09-10-2012 05:23 PM

Probably been discussed already but what do you want the Royals to do with Guthrie and Hochevar this offseason?


Rany lays out a clear case that Hochevar should be done.


http://www.ranyontheroyals.com/2012/...-and-luke.html

CaliforniaChief 09-10-2012 05:29 PM

I'd re-sign Guthrie and let Hoch go...but I know that won't happen. Oh yeah, and make a big push for a #1/2 starter like Greinke/Marcum. And I know that probably won't happen either.

Captain Obvious 09-10-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8895739)

It's Special Ned.

tk13 09-11-2012 12:23 AM

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/09/10...-hochevar.html

In-depth article in the KC Star about Hochevar. Says the Royals still believe he can be a successful pitcher. Of course, the season isn't over so they have to say that, but we'll see.

The most interesting part is the back and forth between him and Eiland. Eiland wants him to stop throwing the cutter so much. Says it's affecting his other pitches. Says he has too many pitches and he needs to simplify it down to 3-4. Hochevar notes that batters hit .170 against his cutter. He also sounds like he's sick of everyone tinkering with everything he does.

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Hochevar’s resistance, which he acknowledges, stems from numerous club-prompted tweaks in the past. Former pitching coach Bob McClure worked to moderate what he viewed as an over-aggressive approach. (That remains a problem; more on that in a bit.)

Midway through the 2011 season, Yost called for greater variance in pitch location, specifically seeking an increase at throwing inside. Now, Eiland wants a reduced arsenal.

“It’s the easier way,” Hochevar said, “to just start tweaking things or changing things – things that aren’t a factor. Sometimes it takes more courage to stay the course as opposed to saying, ‘I’m going to try something completely different.’”

Hochevar agrees that his cutter can lead to bad habits on other pitches but argues the solution is to eliminate the bad habits, not the cutter.

“I really don’t think it matters what pitch you’re throwing if you execute it,” he said. “A good pitch is a good pitch. It doesn’t matter if it’s cutting, sinking, four-seaming, curving, sliding…

“If you go out and execute, that’s the bottom line. And that’s where my mind is because I’ve been down that road too many times. Oh, this is it. Or here it is. This is the ticket right here…No. When you’re set is when you’re making good pitches.”

Eiland’s response: “How successful have you been doing it this way? Tell me.”

The debate continues.

There is no argument regarding Hochevar’s competitive fire. It is that quality, plus his stuff, that keeps the Royals convinced that he can eventually harness his gifts. But that aggressiveness has a dark side that surfaces in a tendency to surrender big innings.

“No matter what he’s throwing,” Eiland said, “when he gets in trouble, he tends to overthrow. He wants to make his good stuff even better. He starts pulling his head off-line, the shoulder comes up, the arm slot drops, and he gets on the side of all of his pitches.

“It happens when he’s really trying to make a good, quality pitch rather than just staying within himself, trusting his delivery, trusting his ability and trusting his stuff. Sometimes, I don’t think he gives his stuff enough credit.”

Deberg_1990 09-11-2012 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 8900715)
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/09/10...-hochevar.html

In-depth article in the KC Star about Hochevar. Says the Royals still believe he can be a successful pitcher. Of course, the season isn't over so they have to say that, but we'll see.

The most interesting part is the back and forth between him and Eiland. Eiland wants him to stop throwing the cutter so much. Says it's affecting his other pitches. Says he has too many pitches and he needs to simplify it down to 3-4. Hochevar notes that batters hit .170 against his cutter. He also sounds like he's sick of everyone tinkering with everything he does.

interesting. i remember listening to Hoch on the radio after one of his decent games back in late June i think? They were talking about this same thing basically...tinkering with his mechanics......he didnt sound very pleased, and to be honest, i hated his attitude.

I hope the Royals just decide to cut their losses with this turd.

jbwm89 09-11-2012 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8900868)
interesting. i remember listening to Hoch on the radio after one of his decent games back in late June i think? They were talking about this same thing basically...tinkering with his mechanics......he didnt sound very pleased, and to be honest, i hated his attitude.

I hope the Royals just decide to cut their losses with this turd.

With him having this attitude they just might, looks like we could finally be rid of ho shaver for good.

OmahaChief 09-11-2012 07:14 AM

That article about Hoch tells me all I need to know about the current management of the Royals and Hoch himself. Here is a guy that can't get anyone out yet he does not want to take any instruction in hopes of helping him succeed. Instead he would rather do it his way and continue to give up 5 to 7 runs in his normal 5 inning effort.

Secondly, the fact that the management thinks this can can succeed only reinforces the fact they are all a bunch of full blown reeruns.

Dr. Johnny Fever 09-11-2012 08:46 AM

I predict an All-Star game start and possible Cy Young in his future within 2 years of leaving KC.

Nightfyre 09-11-2012 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 8901035)
I predict an All-Star game start and possible Cy Young in his future within 2 years of leaving KC.

Maybe what he needs is some humbling and a change of scenery. Personally, I think he's just mentally weak and his attitude appears to be that of a petulant child. So yea, time to cut ties.


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